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Message 1529011 - Posted: 17 Jun 2014, 15:47:04 UTC - in response to Message 1528898.  

Your user page.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8363397


Thank you. :-)

I'm assuming that 25% is NOT where I want to be, right??? I want the number to be lower, and that continued crunching on my GTX760 will get me there... Right???

It looks like the current crossover point into 5% is in the 4100 RAC range. Your daily numbers seem to indicate you could get to that RAC or a bit higher.


Thanks, HAL. :-)
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Message 1529013 - Posted: 17 Jun 2014, 15:48:53 UTC - in response to Message 1528909.  

Your user page.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8363397


Thank you. :-)

I'm assuming that 25% is NOT where I want to be, right??? I want the number to be lower, and that continued crunching on my GTX760 will get me there... Right???

Here's a similar setup to your rig TL that will show you the potential that you could get from yours.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7111292

Which will easily get you into the 1% club. ;-)

[edit] It looks ATM like you'll need a RAC of about 4,300 to get into the 5% class and 12,400 to get to the 1% class.

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He seems to be crunching only SETI at the moment; so, his RAC will be higher than mine, as I'm crunching Beta and Einstein as well... Maybe, I'll still get to the 4,300 Mark, though.
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Message 1529204 - Posted: 17 Jun 2014, 23:50:31 UTC - in response to Message 1529010.  

I need one CPU core free and since I have a dual core processor, that leaves one core to feed the GPU - so, I'm stuck at crunching one GPU WU at a time, right?


Not necessarily...

Feeding the GPU only takes a % of the CPU's time, so the remainder is available to do other work. Now it may be best to dedicate one CPU core to feeding a high powered GPU. That's just because the extra work the CPU does doesn't make up for the reduced work from the GPU. Max performance may be had by keeping the GPU working as hard as it can, even if a CPU core spends some time idle.

With a low powered GPU, you want to let the CPU do other tasks as as well as feeding the GPU as the gains from dedicating a core to the GPU is less than the work the CPU can do itself.

A similar idea with doing 2 GPU workunits at once. Because of the way the software works it's possible that a powerful GPU is only being utilised 70-80% of it's potential (it's waiting for tasks from the CPU). If you have 2 tasks running, there is more GPU work "queued", and less idle time. So instead of doing one task in 15 min, you end up doing 2 in 25 minutes.

Now with a lower powered GPU this may not work as the extra overhead slows things down, and you go from one hour per task, to 2 in 2.5 hours. Obviously a bad idea.

But all this is getting into that voodoo advanced setup / optimised apps area. You will probably need to edit config files etc. If you want more performance, start with the packaged optimised apps, and tweak from there. The setup of each machine is slightly different, CPU, GPU, RAM, OS, other apps running etc. All make a slight difference to how the machine runs.

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Message 1529277 - Posted: 18 Jun 2014, 2:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 1529010.  

TL, Is your RAC climbing on that machine? I dont know what a 760 can do. Have you tried running two work units on it.
Running 1 or even two cores with out an updated GPU card just wont cut it now days. My I7 920 was a hot deal back in the day with its GTS 250. Now days it sucks even running Lunatics. About 5200 Rac running MB and AP. I will try all APs soon and see what happens. Im still doing my chargeing at the windmills with my MB stock only test.
We all crunch what we can afford.


My GTX760 is a brand new card, in a brand new computer. The RAC is climbing. (I don't know what the card can do, either, as this is my first GPU.) My AMD A6-6400K APU, (CPU), is dual core. I've set BOINC to crunch "0" CPU, only crunch GPU.

I'm currently crunching SETI at 45%, SETI Beta at 35%, and Einstein at 20% of the time. The card currently crunches one WU at a time; I was unaware that I could crunch more on it; however, from what I have learned, I need one CPU core free and since I have a dual core processor, that leaves one core to feed the GPU - so, I'm stuck at crunching one GPU WU at a time, right? (Oh, and I'm crunching SETI stock, no Lunatics... The card finally locked in and settled on CUDA50.) [EDIT]I'm also crunching MB and AP on SETI and Beta.

TL, take a gander at my running stock thread and read it thru to the end. You will bennefit from running lunatics. Then as your RAC settles down you can play with that 760 running two work units at a time. Just do one step at a time.
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Message 1555146 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 17:28:01 UTC

I see we gots badges everywhere.....
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Message 1555149 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 17:34:05 UTC

I see we gots badges everywhere.....

Not sure I care for that !! Anyway to turn them off, other than to stop crunching!!!
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Message 1555151 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 17:36:59 UTC - in response to Message 1555149.  

I see we gots badges everywhere.....

Not sure I care for that !! Anyway to turn them off, other than to stop crunching!!!

I doubt it.
They don't bother OR excite me much.
I mean, when a 13k-14k RAC gets you the same badge as a 600k RAC, it's kinda a shrug for me.
They'd need a .001% level badge or sumpthin'....LOL.
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Message 1555154 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 17:44:29 UTC

I mean, when a 13k-14k RAC gets you the same badge as a 600k RAC, it's kinda a shrug for me.


Indeed they mean very little and are just a distraction to me.

I believe it should be down to personal choice whether you want it displayed, the same as a donation green star.

Most here crunch what they can afford and it seems wrong that people with one slow machine are excluded from the "award".

To me it has never been about "how big is your RAC" but if you care about the project and do whatever you can afford!!

These "merit badges" are sending the wrong signals in my humble opinion.
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Message 1555172 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 18:04:02 UTC

Guess you can use ad block capable browser to remove badges.
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Message 1555194 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 18:36:55 UTC - in response to Message 1555172.  
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Guess you can use ad block capable browser to remove badges.

I use ad block to trim out such things from various sites. The down side is that removing them from the forum area will remove them form the user info as well. Since they use the same message.
I think placement after the under info, like other sites do it, would be better rather than next to the user name.
Perhaps a defined section under the flag area for them.

Having them next to the author in the thread listing is a bit annoying too.
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Message 1555294 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 21:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 1555151.  

I see we gots badges everywhere.....

Not sure I care for that !! Anyway to turn them off, other than to stop crunching!!!

I doubt it.
They don't bother OR excite me much.
I mean, when a 13k-14k RAC gets you the same badge as a 600k RAC, it's kinda a shrug for me.
They'd need a .001% level badge or sumpthin'....LOL.

How about a 0.1% Platinum badge?

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Message 1555327 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 22:47:27 UTC

I just noticed the badges popping up next to user names as well. I am wondering, though, it looks to me as though 'top x%' is calculated based on all registered users. But only a fraction of these users are actually active. Would it be possible to calculate 'top x%' based on active users? Then there would be more of a distinction between the gold, silver and bronze - as it stands at the moment, it looks like everyone active enough to post is active enough to score a badge.

As to whether it's good or not to have these badges displayed along with the donation star, I don't really mind either way but I can understand that for some people being recognised for computational as well as monetary contributions is important.
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Message 1555366 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 0:36:44 UTC - in response to Message 1555327.  

I just noticed the badges popping up next to user names as well. I am wondering, though, it looks to me as though 'top x%' is calculated based on all registered users. But only a fraction of these users are actually active. Would it be possible to calculate 'top x%' based on active users? Then there would be more of a distinction between the gold, silver and bronze - as it stands at the moment, it looks like everyone active enough to post is active enough to score a badge.

As to whether it's good or not to have these badges displayed along with the donation star, I don't really mind either way but I can understand that for some people being recognised for computational as well as monetary contributions is important.

When I checked the break points for my earlier post, there were ~1350 at 1% and stats sites were showing around 135000 active participants, so it's already percent of active.

Since the bronze badge is top 25%, clearly 75% of active participants get no badge. I have none, for instance, and I'm far above the RAC of 1.0 required to post. But I agree that if we're going to have badges based on RAC then adding a top 0.02 percent or something similar would make sense. A break point within the group of enthusiastic participants who do most posting would make the whole idea more interesting.

OTOH, although Dr. Anderson set up the mechanism so projects could customize it I don't think asking the S@H staff to do so makes sense. There are many more important things for them to do.
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Message 1555400 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 1:48:27 UTC

Oh, right. It's just that when I looked at the forum it looked like every thread author had a badge so it seemed a bit skewed to me, but now that I look again there are a few who don't.
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Message 1555434 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 3:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 1555294.  

I see we gots badges everywhere.....

Not sure I care for that !! Anyway to turn them off, other than to stop crunching!!!

I doubt it.
They don't bother OR excite me much.
I mean, when a 13k-14k RAC gets you the same badge as a 600k RAC, it's kinda a shrug for me.
They'd need a .001% level badge or sumpthin'....LOL.

How about a 0.1% Platinum badge?

Cheers.

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Message 1555436 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 3:37:15 UTC

just give Charles Long a badge that spans across multiple displays
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Message 1555447 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 3:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 1555436.  

just give Charles Long a badge that spans across multiple displays

With the current output level on the cricket graphs and no AP's, except for resends, maybe Charles is loading up for another stress test. ;-)

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Message 1555457 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 4:18:08 UTC - in response to Message 1555447.  

just give Charles Long a badge that spans across multiple displays

With the current output level on the cricket graphs and no AP's, except for resends, maybe Charles is loading up for another stress test. ;-)

Cheers.

I figured that was just the data being moved form the storage array back to the lab so they could load up another set after maintenance.
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Message 1555461 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 4:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 1555457.  

just give Charles Long a badge that spans across multiple displays

With the current output level on the cricket graphs and no AP's, except for resends, maybe Charles is loading up for another stress test. ;-)

Cheers.

I figured that was just the data being moved form the storage array back to the lab so they could load up another set after maintenance.

That to me has also seemed to happen when the blue line peaks up. *shrugs*

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Message 1555464 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 4:39:59 UTC - in response to Message 1555461.  

just give Charles Long a badge that spans across multiple displays

With the current output level on the cricket graphs and no AP's, except for resends, maybe Charles is loading up for another stress test. ;-)

Cheers.

I figured that was just the data being moved form the storage array back to the lab so they could load up another set after maintenance.

That to me has also seemed to happen when the blue line peaks up. *shrugs*

Cheers.

I have noticed it as
Phase 1) The green goes up while the data goes back top the lab, freeing up disk space. Then the blue line goes up as they dump data to the array in the colo.
Phase 2)
Phase 3) Profit

Then again it could be none of those things. Such as moving data to one of the other servers they have in the colo.
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