Referendum in Donetsk and Luhansk area passing as planned.
In few points like Andreevka and Slavyansk and few others ukranian army using heavy weaponry. But referendum passing.
Фашизм не пройдет!

Any chance that we can see the vote alternatives???

You will see what those areas want tomorrow. If US mercenaries will not interfere...

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-400-us-soeldner-von-academi-kaempfen-gegen-separatisten-a-968745.html

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Referendum in Donetsk and Luhansk area passing as planned.
In few points like Andreevka and Slavyansk and few others ukranian army using heavy weaponry. But referendum passing.
Фашизм не пройдет!

Any chance that we can see the vote alternatives???

I think it's something like this.

1. Are you in favour of Putin?
2. Are you against Putin?

btw,are international observers allowed this time?

Демократия в России не допускается больше.

Democracy? Did you mean plutocraty like in the west? Well, we have quite strong plutocraty, better than yours :P Or you mean "democracy" like those exported by USA? Well, yeah, we still saved from that democracy ;)

And better if you would not "think" but will look for real questions. Some peoples thinking not worth to share instead of the facts they ignore.

Regarding observers: who expressed will to participate? They were allowed in Crimea and what? Your hypocries will continue to post all that shit they post every day and no observers needed for that.
And peoples will be burnt alive by dozens while west blame Russia... go on, but ФАШИЗМ НЕ ПРОЙДЕТ!

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Childrens of Slavyansk

Please. It is not necessary to use innocent children in this way.
I think it's disgusting.

I think it's DISGUSTING to use army against cities and post in news that "citizens are evacuated". No they did not leave town and will not leave.
I found all that shit all you post day by day in this thread not worth life of single killed man in that city and there are dozens of killed.

I have no more words to continue to post here w/o being modded on each message.
No child-friendly words remain for you, sitting in comfortable rooms and posting what going on there where most of you even don't know where lies.

Time will show... how many should die before - time will show too...

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Democracy? Did you mean plutocraty like in the west? Well, we have quite strong plutocraty, better than yours :P Or you mean "democracy" like those exported by USA? Well, yeah, we still saved from that democracy ;)

And better if you would not "think" but will look for real questions. Some peoples thinking not worth to share instead of the facts they ignore.

Regarding observers: who expressed will to participate? They were allowed in Crimea and what? Your hypocries will continue to post all that shit they post every day and no observers needed for that.
And peoples will be burnt alive by dozens while west blame Russia... go on, but ФАШИЗМ НЕ ПРОЙДЕТ!

I totally agree with ФАШИЗМ НЕ ПРОЙДЕТ.
However, I don't think West are blaming Russia.
They are merely criticizing Putins politics.
There's a difference.
Also Ukraines politics are criticized.

And in Utopia no-one makes bullets so no-one gets shot.

Childrens of Slavyansk

Please. It is not necessary to use innocent children in this way.
I think it's disgusting.

+1 I find that disgusting when it happens here in the US also. Id say most kids have no say in it. The parents tell them you will hold up this sign.

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+1 I find that disgusting when it happens here in the US also. Id say most kids have no say in it. The parents tell them you will hold up this sign.

It is one thing to hold a sign and march for whatever. It is quite different to have them holding signs in front of an illegally occupied building to prevent the police form evicting the trespassers. It id not the signs it is using children as human shields that is very wrong.

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Are we meant to believe the results of this latest referendum will be any different from that in the Crimea.

Putin's 'Human Rights Council' Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results

As you may recall, the official Crimean election results, as reported widely in the Western press, showed a 97 percent vote in favor of annexation with a turnout of 83 percent. No international observers were allowed. The pro-Russia election pressure would have raised the already weak vote in favor of annexation, of course.

Yesterday, however, according to a major Ukrainian news site, TSN.ua, the website of the President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights (shortened to President’s Human Rights Council) posted a report that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to this purported report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout of Crimean voters was only 30 percent. And of these, only half voted for the referendum–meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation.

The TSN report does not link to a copy of the cited report. However, there is a report of the Human Rights Council, entitled “Problems of Crimean Residents,” still up on the president-sovet.ru website, which discusses the Council’s estimates of the results of the March 16 referendum. Quoting from that report: “In Crimea, according to various indicators, 50-60% voted for unification with Russia with a voter turnout (yavka) of 30-50%.” This leads to a range of between 15 percent (50% x 30%) and 30 percent (60% x 50%) voting for annexation. The turnout in the Crimean district of Sevastopol, according to the Council, was higher: 50-80%.

The original version, in Russian, and a version clumsily translated by Google, are below:

Crimea vote


To make sure no one misses this:

Official Kremlin results: 97 percent of polled voters for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and 82 percent of total Crimean population voting in favor.

President’s Human Rights Council mid-point estimate: 55 percent of polled voters for annexation, turnout 40 percent, 22.5 percent of total Crimean population voting in favor.

Does anyone who is permitted to think think the so called elections in Ukraine are legitimate? Then of course with the history of Europe does it make any difference?

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+1 I find that disgusting when it happens here in the US also. Id say most kids have no say in it. The parents tell them you will hold up this sign.

It is one thing to hold a sign and march for whatever. It is quite different to have them holding signs in front of an illegally occupied building to prevent the police form evicting the trespassers. It id not the signs it is using children as human shields that is very wrong.

Вчера, 6 мая, возле железнодорожного вокзала Славянска местные жители вышли с детьми на небольшой митинг
Railstation!

But why I not surprised? Do you really understand at least something you try to comment ??
Children in occupied CITY , whole CITY under blockade, and you try to make "looking-wise" comments here...

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Actually, after Odessa's events I have nothing more to say to all these damned hypocrites.
Continue to discuss how much % voted, continue to support atrocities that happened and will be happened... it's on hands of such supporters...

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Are we meant to believe the results of this latest referendum will be any different from that in the Crimea.

Putin's 'Human Rights Council' Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results

As you may recall, the official Crimean election results, as reported widely in the Western press, showed a 97 percent vote in favor of annexation with a turnout of 83 percent. No international observers were allowed. The pro-Russia election pressure would have raised the already weak vote in favor of annexation, of course.

Yesterday, however, according to a major Ukrainian news site, TSN.ua, the website of the President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights (shortened to President’s Human Rights Council) posted a report that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to this purported report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout of Crimean voters was only 30 percent. And of these, only half voted for the referendum–meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation.

The TSN report does not link to a copy of the cited report. However, there is a report of the Human Rights Council, entitled “Problems of Crimean Residents,” still up on the president-sovet.ru website, which discusses the Council’s estimates of the results of the March 16 referendum. Quoting from that report: “In Crimea, according to various indicators, 50-60% voted for unification with Russia with a voter turnout (yavka) of 30-50%.” This leads to a range of between 15 percent (50% x 30%) and 30 percent (60% x 50%) voting for annexation. The turnout in the Crimean district of Sevastopol, according to the Council, was higher: 50-80%.

The original version, in Russian, and a version clumsily translated by Google, are below:

Crimea vote


To make sure no one misses this:

Official Kremlin results: 97 percent of polled voters for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and 82 percent of total Crimean population voting in favor.

President’s Human Rights Council mid-point estimate: 55 percent of polled voters for annexation, turnout 40 percent, 22.5 percent of total Crimean population voting in favor.

Проблемы жителей Крыма
В связи с многочисленными ссылками СМИ на обзор "Проблемы жителей Крыма" как на официальный документ Совета при Президенте РФ по развитию гражданского общества и правам человека, выражающий оценку Советом крымского референдума, разъясняем, что он таковым не является.

Один из его авторов, член Совета Евгений Бобров, с 16 по 18 апреля 2014 года совершил частную поездку в Крым, итогом которой стал обзор о проблемах местных жителей в разных сферах. Текст обзора был 22 апреля 2014 года опубликован Бобровым в материалах постоянной комиссии по миграционной политике и защите прав человека в сфере межнациональных отношений, председателем которой он является, и в его персональном блоге на сайте Совета.

В обзоре тезисно изложены некоторые аспекты проблем, с которыми столкнулись жители Крыма в процессе интеграции новых субъектов Российской Федерации в экономическую, финансовую, кредитную и правовую системы страны. Информация разделена по темам "гражданство", "регистрация (прописка)", "убежище", "регистрация прав на недвижимость", "продовольствие и продукты", "образовательные учреждения", "межнациональные отношения", "религия и церковь", "резонансные убийства, задержания и похищения граждан", банковская система. пенсии и социальные пособия", "судебная система", "средства массовой информации", "бизнес", земля и положение сельских жителей", "туризм", "референдум". При этом обзор не содержит политических оценок, результатов официальных опросов, обследований или экспертиз. В нем представлены лишь личные наблюдения и мнения авторов. В частности, говоря о крымском референдуме, авторы обзора передают исключительно оценочные суждения своих собеседников, никак не оценивая их объективность и точность.

Совет просит представителей СМИ не извращать содержание данного обзора.

Count votes further while peoples burnt alive, hypocrites...

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Are we meant to believe the results of this latest referendum will be any different from that in the Crimea.

Putin's 'Human Rights Council' Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results

Forbes article turned out to be a canard.
Swedish press actually talked with one of the authors of the report in 'Human Rights Council' and got totally different answers.
Sorry about that.

Calm down. You're not a young man anymore.

It must be a national pride thing; like when US reelected Bush/Cheney to spite world criticism. As screwed up as Iraq was the end result is a free democratic "Islamic Republic". That has to have the world wondering as in the words of a Toronto policeman "what is wrong with you people". I did nothing wrong, he just found it odd that we still use "imperial" units wile the Crown no longer does.

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The choice is never between good and evil.

It is between bad and less bad.

Bush/Cheney does not equal Putin/Stalin.

That is what US say but others of course think differently. Bush/Cheney lost the popular vote in their first election but won it in their second. I think the world badmouthing them and US, by proxy, made many vote for Bush/Cheney out of spite. I'm just trying to explain why I think the Russian people are behaving as they are, they take insulting Putin as an insult to Mother Russia.

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In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia
Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world

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In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia
Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world

Says John Pilger, the Michael Moor of the realm. He also writes about.

Another stolen generation: how Australia still wrecks Aboriginal families.
The prison that is Bangladesh
India has become a dystopia of extremes. But resistance is rising

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In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia
Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world

Says John Pilger, the Michael Moor of the realm. He also writes about.

Another stolen generation: how Australia still wrecks Aboriginal families.
The prison that is Bangladesh
India has become a dystopia of extremes. But resistance is rising

He's an excellent journalist. I went to school with his son and have met him. Hardly a popularist like Michael Moore though.

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In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia
Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world

Says John Pilger, the Michael Moor of the realm. He also writes about.

Another stolen generation: how Australia still wrecks Aboriginal families.
The prison that is Bangladesh
India has become a dystopia of extremes. But resistance is rising

He's an excellent journalist. I went to school with his son and have met him. Hardly a popularist like Michael Moore though.

Pilger's Opinion is just that.

When Pilger excuses Tsar Putin I: We have seen Pilger's types throughout history.

Yes, because their imperialism is bad, whilst American imperialism is good.

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Es99, before you make repost of this slander, need to study the subject, carefully and thoroughly!
It is not "Teenagers are pretty awful wherever you are...", it's worse! Here's an example, Lugansk May 12, 2014, Russian separatists chained Ukrainian activist Mikhail Logvinenko and beaten (video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDlSUcLcb_o and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2gcyjSv1cQ
Read full article (in russian) http://podrobnosti.ua/analytics/2014/05/13/975670.html
Here there is a war, specifically against fascism, only - from the Russia and russians! Already killed 30 soldiers and officers of Ukrainian Army, about a hundred were wounded!!!!!
"Separatists have already killed 78 people (only using firearms),.. We have 125 cases of hostage-taking..." - said said Chief of the Office of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine M.Goshovskiy, see the http://society.lb.ua/accidents/2014/05/14/266474_donbasse_separatisti_ubili_78.html
You say, "teenagers ..."! On the chain, no one (of you) wants? We also....