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TRuEQ & TuVaLu Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 505 Credit: 69,523,653 RAC: 10 |
I'm not getting the entire picture here.... Maybe wasn't such a good idea make federation of Ukrainian states before asking Ukraine. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
before asking Ukraine. What do you mean by that? East areas demand referendum regarding country organization. To decide (democratically) should Ukraine be unitar or federal. But asking Ukraine is asking whom? Kiev's usurpators? Well, it's not Ukraine. Votes on whole-Ukraine referendum could be "asking Ukraine", but what Turchinov says - it's not what "says Ukraine". There are ~20 president candidates now, some of them demand federalization too. They get physical pressure - Tsarev was beaten yesterday... So, what is "asking Ukraine" ? SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
TRuEQ & TuVaLu Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 505 Credit: 69,523,653 RAC: 10 |
before asking Ukraine. Well, as of now there is "riots" and Ukraine seems to want to use force to make it stop. A possible future will be: 1. Russia helps it's citicens with force. 2. Nato ..... A nice movie.... "Wargames"; Would you like to play a nice game of Chess? Someone here show me a different future path please!! |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
A nice movie.... "Wargames"; Would you like to play a nice game of Chess? + 100 One of my favourites. Seen the Stanley Kubrick film Dr Strangelove? Someone here show me a different future path please!! Wish I could - we're on a seriously backward one as far as I can see. :( |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Seen the Stanley Kubrick film Dr Strangelove? "Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!" Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
Putin 'buzzing' an American Destroyer. A lone unarmed fighter did a fly over. The Super Bowl gets more. The 1988 Black Sea bumper boat regatta was more interesting. The Black Sea is really a lake with only one way in or out and that is through Turkey. Interesting situation for Tzar Putin so he doesn't want to go there. A possible future will be: NATO/(US) will not get involved, boots on the ground, in Ukraine, Kerry said that. Of course bumper boat is bumper boat. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Real fight going in Slavyansk now... there are casualties already... Tanks on road to Slavyansk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHm7T6-Pl80 It seems they arrived already... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU... How sad! Just proves the point that $$$$ & property is more valuable than human life. |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced the EU I can see his worry that ties to the West will eventually lead to joining NATO; he is surrounded as it is and he doesn't want it getting tighter. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced the EU Understandable I suppose, but I wonder if the dead would agree with you? |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
I wonder if the dead would agree with you? As long as it isn't US dead. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I wonder if the dead would agree with you? Is that meant to be US or U.S.? If U.S., then let's hope that NATO does not get involved or it will be US! |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU... What a cynic statement... No, absolutely not because "one man", because half of country... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU... ...so to get what they want, they're prepared to kill the other half? Now that is cynical! |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
I don't know who US is with what I now know about secret agreements. I notice gold and oil traders are not showing much worry over this; I find that interesting. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
..yeah, they don't care, they'll only begin to worry once the bombs start falling... ..and even then they'll still die trying to earn loadsa $$$$ |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34945 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The Ukraine on the move to restore order. http://www.news.com.au/world/ukraine-on-brink-of-war-as-tanks-head-to-flashpoint-city-of-slavyansk/story-fndir2ev-1226885938018 |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I looked on a map of the area and noticed that without Crimea and eastern Ukraine Russia only has about 200 miles of shoreline on the Black Sea and no major seaports. I wonder if this could be part of the reason they want control of the area. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34945 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I looked on a map of the area and noticed that without Crimea and eastern Ukraine Russia only has about 200 miles of shoreline on the Black Sea and no major seaports. I wonder if this could be part of the reason they want control of the area. That could be a very good part of it amongst a few other reasons that Vlad needs ATM. Cheers. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU... Fully agree. This should be stopped! Kiev's usurpators should not use military against peoples. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
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