Crimea 2


log in

Advanced search

Message boards : Politics : Crimea 2

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 . . . 26 · Next
Author Message
Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 11940
Credit: 1,794,803
RAC: 613
Bermuda
Message 1501815 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 18:39:03 UTC

Crimea 1
____________

Profile CLYDEProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 2739
Credit: 25,166,919
RAC: 29,055
United States
Message 1501820 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 18:42:50 UTC

Welcome back!!!

Interesting reading.
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 11940
Credit: 1,794,803
RAC: 613
Bermuda
Message 1501824 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 18:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 1501820.

That it is. I still say that a post I made approx. 7 years ago is still valid today.....

2050AD somewhere out there.....

Astronomy student says to teacher....

'Huh? All signals have stopped from Sol"

Teacher

'That's not possible. They are such a prolific little species, let me check. Damn, you're correct'

2100AD E.T lands on Earth and finds 85% covered by water with the remaining 15% a barren desert with no sign of life.

I also did a corresponding post which was much better but don't have the time to search for it.
____________

Profile CLYDEProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 2739
Credit: 25,166,919
RAC: 29,055
United States
Message 1501827 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 19:04:53 UTC - in response to Message 1501824.
Last modified: 9 Apr 2014, 19:05:28 UTC

That it is. I still say that a post I made approx. 7 years ago is still valid today.....

2050AD somewhere out there.....

Astronomy student says to teacher....

'Huh? All signals have stopped from Sol"

Teacher

'That's not possible. They are such a prolific little species, let me check. Damn, you're correct'

2100AD E.T lands on Earth and finds 85% covered by water with the remaining 15% a barren desert with no sign of life.

TOTALLY DISAGREE.

They will find lichen and cockroaches.

:)
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 11940
Credit: 1,794,803
RAC: 613
Bermuda
Message 1501829 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 19:11:06 UTC - in response to Message 1501827.

Ah but what type of cockroaches are they?

Maybe a new breed for example...

American Breed = Obama
Russian Breed = Putin
European Breed = Merkel
British Breed to be sub-categorised
Cameron/Salmond/Clegg/Millipede/Sturgeon
Eastern Breed = U bug ers kill ed us
____________

Profile CLYDEProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 2739
Credit: 25,166,919
RAC: 29,055
United States
Message 1501884 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 20:57:02 UTC

Are you seriously implying that Leaders are no better than Cockroaches.

Upon further reflection...
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 11940
Credit: 1,794,803
RAC: 613
Bermuda
Message 1501893 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 21:08:03 UTC - in response to Message 1501884.

Are you seriously implying that Leaders are no better than Cockroaches.

Upon further reflection...


...they look in the mirror...

... & their reflection are us!

Sad indictment of mankind I'm afraid.
____________

anniet
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Feb 14
Posts: 5027
Credit: 228,672
RAC: 366
United Kingdom
Message 1501895 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 21:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 1501884.

Are you seriously implying that Leaders are no better than Cockroaches.

Upon further reflection...


I know which I have more respect for... the ones with three left feet :)

Profile SciManStevProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 20 Jun 99
Posts: 4905
Credit: 84,255,258
RAC: 26,043
United States
Message 1501922 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 22:20:22 UTC

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/09/russia-trying-to-create-climate-of-chaos-in-ukraine-zakaria/?hpt=hp_t3

This is a reasonably well balanced opinion. Fareed Zakaria is well known for understanding the situations around the world.

Steve
____________
Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Profile Raistmer
Volunteer developer
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 01
Posts: 3631
Credit: 49,321,612
RAC: 30,924
Russia
Message 1501932 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 23:04:37 UTC - in response to Message 1501922.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/09/russia-trying-to-create-climate-of-chaos-in-ukraine-zakaria/?hpt=hp_t3

This is a reasonably well balanced opinion. Fareed Zakaria is well known for understanding the situations around the world.

Steve

I'm afraid not.
He allows factological errors that makes his opinion and fairness very questionable:

We invaded Iraq, we invaded Afghanistan, and Putin still invaded Georgia and he still annexed Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
____________

Profile SciManStevProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 20 Jun 99
Posts: 4905
Credit: 84,255,258
RAC: 26,043
United States
Message 1501933 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 23:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 1501932.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/09/russia-trying-to-create-climate-of-chaos-in-ukraine-zakaria/?hpt=hp_t3

This is a reasonably well balanced opinion. Fareed Zakaria is well known for understanding the situations around the world.

Steve

I'm afraid not.
He allows factological errors that makes his opinion and fairness very questionable:

We invaded Iraq, we invaded Afghanistan, and Putin still invaded Georgia and he still annexed Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Thank you!
All I want is an unbiased account of what is happening. I know the US has done some really stupid things in the past. The second war with Iraq, was all about oil, and was planned long before 911. What wasn't planned was how long it would take, and still not have control of Iraq's oil. I consider that a huge blunder on the US's part, and it never should have happened.

Steve
____________
Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Batter UpProject donor
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,858,651
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1501941 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 23:49:55 UTC - in response to Message 1501933.

What wasn't planned was how long it would take, and still not have control of Iraq's oil. I consider that a huge blunder on the US's part, and it never should have happened.
The US doesn't need foreign oil as much as it did only a decade ago because of franking. Canada is begging US to take more and the US at present burns off 30% of the Natural Gas it pumps along with oil because there is no place to put it.

The Western World is treating this "crises" with a big yarn, nether gold or oil has gone up.
____________

Profile SciManStevProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 20 Jun 99
Posts: 4905
Credit: 84,255,258
RAC: 26,043
United States
Message 1501943 - Posted: 9 Apr 2014, 23:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 1501941.

What wasn't planned was how long it would take, and still not have control of Iraq's oil. I consider that a huge blunder on the US's part, and it never should have happened.
The US doesn't need foreign oil as much as it did only a decade ago because of franking. Canada is begging US to take more and the US at present burns off 30% of the Natural Gas it pumps along with oil because there is no place to put it.

The Western World is treating this "crises" with a big yarn, nether gold or oil has gone up.

You are right about the fracking reducing the US dependance on foreign oil sources.
Things have changed a lot in the last 10-15 years.

Steve
____________
Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Profile celttooth
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 21 Nov 99
Posts: 17434
Credit: 11,636,393
RAC: 14,473
Canada
Message 1501966 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 1:10:54 UTC

Canada is begging US to take more


A bit of an over statement I'd say.....
____________

Profile betregerProject donor
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 2656
Credit: 5,482,947
RAC: 6,166
United States
Message 1501979 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 2:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 1501941.

Canada is begging US to take more

Actually waht they want is access to our refineries and seaports so that stuff can be sold in the world market.
____________

Profile CLYDEProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 2739
Credit: 25,166,919
RAC: 29,055
United States
Message 1501986 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 2:37:08 UTC
Last modified: 10 Apr 2014, 2:37:47 UTC

China will soon become the worlds largest IMPORTER of Oil, and they don't really control most of it (think military force).

USA is poised to exceed Saudi Arabia in Oil Exports.

Almost All the increases in Petroleum Products, are on Private and State Lands. The Vast Federal Land's have not been touched.

USA LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) Exports: Obama Administration has approved only a few requests. But not to China, Western Europe, Japan or South Korea.

An interesting future.
____________

Batter UpProject donor
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,858,651
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1502385 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 21:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 1501986.

USA LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) Exports: Obama Administration has approved only a few requests. But not to China, Western Europe, Japan or South Korea.

The robber oil barons only care about robber oil barons. They say the US must save the Ukraine by exporting LNG. Total bull. The US has an abundance of natural gas, now, but not the ability to liquify it nor the ships to transport it. If the US went all out building the infrastructure it would take decades before the US could supply enough to make a difference. It is all about the money to be made selling overseas not some bull about saving the Ukraine. I'm all for letting them build all the pipelines, refineries and drilling where they want but only for domestic consumption. After all the world ran out of oil in 1972 and we don't want that to happen again.
____________

Profile Wiggo
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 8556
Credit: 99,127,396
RAC: 49,933
Australia
Message 1502395 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 22:11:41 UTC


USA LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) Exports: Obama Administration has approved only a few requests. But not to China, Western Europe, Japan or South Korea.

Basically this is because Australia supplies countries from India through to Japan. ;-)

Cheers.

Profile CLYDEProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 Aug 99
Posts: 2739
Credit: 25,166,919
RAC: 29,055
United States
Message 1502403 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 22:20:18 UTC - in response to Message 1502385.

USA LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) Exports: Obama Administration has approved only a few requests. But not to China, Western Europe, Japan or South Korea.

The robber oil barons only care about robber oil barons. They say the US must save the Ukraine by exporting LNG. Total bull. The US has an abundance of natural gas, now, but not the ability to liquify it nor the ships to transport it. If the US went all out building the infrastructure it would take decades before the US could supply enough to make a difference. It is all about the money to be made selling overseas not some bull about saving the Ukraine. I'm all for letting them build all the pipelines, refineries and drilling where they want but only for domestic consumption. After all the world ran out of oil in 1972 and we don't want that to happen again.

By 2016 The US will become a net exporter of LNG.

http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/MT_naturalgas.cfm

In 3-5 Years, the US will be the Worlds Largest Exporter of Oil, exceeding Saudi Arabia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/business/energy-environment/report-sees-us-as-top-oil-producer-in-5-years.html

China Exceeds U.S. as Largest Net Importer of Petroleum.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/62012

LNG ship production is expanding, and it is expected to reverse the Slump in other Tanker building.

ALL the above also applies to Canada.

Texas, Montana, North Dakota and the Western Provinces of Canada, are already 'Boom Towns'.

The World IS Changing.
____________

Batter UpProject donor
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,858,651
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1502433 - Posted: 10 Apr 2014, 23:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 1502395.
Last modified: 10 Apr 2014, 23:35:57 UTC


USA LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) Exports: Obama Administration has approved only a few requests. But not to China, Western Europe, Japan or South Korea.

Basically this is because Australia supplies countries from India through to Japan. ;-)

That is because OZ, and two other colonies, have a "special relationship" with US, through their Sovereign I assume as the Prime Minister didn't know about about the Five Eyes club until 1971, ; there are more members, not special but NATO, the "club", through the NSA, pays for information but does not share any. NSA type spying has been going for 68 years with the help of the Sovereign, and Churchill; it was no doubt Churchill who convinced the Sovereign that the minor PMs didn't have a need to know.
Texas, Montana, North Dakota and the Western Provinces of Canada, are already 'Boom Towns'.

Proof of a robber baron mentality is the burning off of 30% of the NG that is pumped up with oil because they can't store or transport it. Why not leave it where it had been for million of years until they can store or transport it. The bright lights in North Dakota are the burning off of perfectly good NG. That isn't right put it in Google Loons and fly it to the Ukraine.

____________

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 . . . 26 · Next

Message boards : Politics : Crimea 2

Copyright © 2014 University of California