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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Janne, Martin likes scaremongering, it is what he does ..... I'm merely listing some of the things going on around you. Your choice as to whether to be scared, concerned, ambivalent, or deliberately unaware. It is all up to you as to how you might like to be abused... For example: 'Innocent people' on police photos database Police forces in England and Wales have uploaded up to 18 million "mugshots" to a facial recognition database - despite a court ruling it could be unlawful. They include photos of people never charged, or others cleared of an offence... That is a significant proportion of the population... All a game of "false positives" and of being guilty by association or by merely having been seen?... And note that a certain supermarket chain is 'experimenting' with similar tech for 'advertising purposes'... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19073 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The figure of 18 million is approx. twice the number that have criminal records. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
In real language that means people that were arrested and taken to a police station for very good reasons. Some would have been given a police caution, or a police warning, others would have gone to court, and may have been subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing. Nevertheless, each one would have had good cause to have been given "a lift" to a police station, interviewed, and their picture taken for the record. Antisocial or illegal behaviour has consequences in society. Why yes, being anti-social and opposing the Nazi party coming to power has consequences. Just like opposing Islamic State has consequences. I realize that in Chris' world no politician or police officer ever has a bad day and gets up on the wrong side of the bed. Unfortunately the rest of us know innately that is a very deep pile of bovine manure. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Hmmn, so no TV's in the bedroom then... I doubt they'd pick up much interesting from my bedroom... "Are you done yet" "I'm so sorry, that's never happened before" "Please don't go" "The ceiling needs painting!" Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Flash and Zero Day http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/02/09/infected-web-ads-use-flash-flaws-to-spread-ransomware/ It's a perfect storm of Internet iniquity: A three-month-old malvertising campaign is exploiting two recently discovered Adobe Flash Player flaws to infect people's computers with ransomware. If you're counting, that's three cybercrime buzzwords in one — and the result is a dire threat that may have affected popular websites such as the Huffington Post and Answers.com. So nice to see that the companies that offer free content carefully select and screen their advertising. Perhaps they should be financially responsible for those links! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Flash and Zero Day... How should any abuse of your PC even be possible from a web page merely colouring a few pixels in a defined area of your screen...? Perhaps the architect of that OS should be an awful lot more responsible to the people paying and using their wares rather than leaving non-secure silliness for the warez people to so easily run mischief... Wherever you go today, would you leave the windows and doors open for your home? IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Perhaps the architect of that OS should be an awful lot more responsible Yes, Linus should be! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
He raises a very valid point Now that is an eye opener. We have seen that first hand over the last 30 years. And Never gave it a second thought. How many of us have a record player, VHS player, or a reel to reel tape player, How about a cassete deck at home or in the car. Or an 8 track player? I do have a VHS player as the grandkids still watch some old tapes I have left. I had a ton of photos on floppy discs. Lucky for me I made copys to DVD as none of my computers has a floppy drive now. But on the other hand. History is allways lost. How many books and scrolls have been destroyed by accident or on purpose, Or just rot away? Thanks for the link. Food for thought. [/quote] Old James |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Two amazing bits of spookiness from greatly contrasting games of spooks and lazy development: Your hard drives were RIDDLED with NSA SPYWARE for YEARS The US National Security Agency (NSA) infected hard disk firmware with spyware in a campaign valued as highly as Stuxnet that dates back at least 14 years and possibly up to two decades... ... The campaign infected possibly tens of thousands of computers in telecommunications providers, governments, militaries, utilities, and mass media organisations among others in more than 30 countries... Samsung's spying smart TVs don't encrypt voice recordings sent over the internet Not only is your Samsung smart TV snooping on what you say, it sends recordings of your voice over the internet unencrypted – leaving it open to eavesdropping and mischief... All hidden behind the proprietary cloak until eventually openly scrutinized... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Two amazing bits of spookiness from greatly contrasting games of spooks and lazy development: & it took the Linux guru's 20 years to actually scrutinise this? Whatever happened to open eyeballs then? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Two amazing bits of spookiness from greatly contrasting games of spooks and lazy development: That's the whole point... All not open and so not seen until a group interested in anti-virus for Microsoft products took a closer look at the spooks stuff. Note the malware is for Windows systems. And yes FLOSS was used to expose Samsung... Note that Samsung themselves are using FLOSS in their products although that may well not include the applications they use. So... All a game of secrecy or should we all be allowed to openly know?... IT is what we allow it to be, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Two amazing bits of spookiness from greatly contrasting games of spooks and lazy development: The most important piece left out in the tidbits provided by Martin that also tend to make the headline less alarming is the fact that the NSA malware (and it is malware, make no mistake), was targeted at mostly hostile countries like Russia, China, Malaysia, Iran, etc. While I don't advocate what the NSA does, I would nope that we aren't all so clueless as to think our NSA is the only one out there engaging in cyber-warfare. And the only way this was found was because of human mistakes, primarily that the malware used over 300 Command and Control servers and domains, and some domains expired, allowing Kaspersky Labs to setup what is known as "sinkholes" - servers setup to listen in on traffic intended for the C&C servers. Had this little mistake not been made, Kaspersky would still be chasing around looking for answers. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
...& we all know according to the Gospel written by St Martin is that most servers on the Internet are using Linux :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Two amazing bits of spookiness from greatly contrasting games of spooks and lazy development: No, they just found it on Windows systems, they haven't yet looked hard enough on *nix systems because no eyeballs look for it on *nix systems! (after all *nix can't be infected so why bother and look) If it is NSA or other state actor, I'm sure they have methods [from bribes and point of a gun to technological ones] to inject it at manufacture so 100% of drives are infected and using a method that it cannot be removed or easily detected. Remember the drive ROM/boot sector is a kext and runs privileged beyond root either on doze or *nix. The ability to not be proprietary and plug any device in, is the attack vector being exploited! Unfortunately, this inherent vulnerability of non-proprietary systems is going to be exploited time and time again going forward. If I were a state actor, this would be where I would put my R&D money. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
...& we all know according to the Gospel written by St Martin is that most servers on the Internet are using Linux :-) Heh. And again, the whole proprietary vs. FLOSS is really a pointless discussion. What these people created is some truly advanced pieces of malware capable of infecting specific computers and hiding itself from all anti-virus scans. That is to say, the methods used, such as embedding a virus in the firmware portion of a hard drive so that not even a DoD wipe would get rid of it, would work just as well against *nix. Had *nix been the dominate OS in the target areas, that OS would have been compromised as well. This is the larger point of cyber-security. It doesn't matter what you run, a determined hacker will find a way to get what they want. In fact, since the primary target isn't the end-users but the servers of other country's governments, and even if we were to assume Martin is correct that all servers run *nix (which we know isn't true), I would be willing to bet you that the payloads have binaries for that as well. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Technology on the plus side for a change... 2 lost cities found "Fisher also suggested that the Lidar infrared technology used to find the site would soon be as commonplace as radiocarbon dating: “People just have to get through this ‘gee-whiz’ phase and start thinking about what we can do with it.â€" |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Well, not just state actors are betting their money in getting into BIOS code. http://www.wired.com/2015/03/researchers-uncover-way-hack-bios-undermine-secure-operating-systems/ Now it seems >80% of all systems, no matter the O/S are vulnerable. No wonder the NSA doesn't care about breaking encryption, they already have the decryption key! Isn't standardization wonderful? They standardized how to break into the BIOS! |
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