I mentioned before in this thread about Nena (the singer), who commited suicide over her child who fell on a fence and died, but it was Romy Schneider. Just a sidenote:)

It was cardiac arrest...not suicide but she had been taking a lot of pills and consuming alcohol...after her sons death.

The cardiac arrest was because of the pills and alcohol...

I think grief has the potential to set many people on a downward spiral that can lead to a tragically shortened life. :(

Holland is full of them, they're called coffeeshops, the only country in the world that has them I think.

Yes :) I visited a friend who used to live in Beverwijk, and we did visit a few coffee shops when we travelled into Amsterdam :) No idea how anyone safely crossed the roads though, what with all the trams and everything else whizzing about the place :)

Re my friend (and setting aside whether it would work or not) my worry is that because cannabis is illegal here, and cannabis oil (as far as I can tell) is a class A drug, if she follows this alternative, she could be getting herself into a whole lot of trouble.

I am hoping reason will prevail so I DON'T have to support her on this one, but thank you everyone for reiterating your support for what I have done so far. It means a lot to me. When I posted here yesterday I was prepared to hide behind the parapets. After reading all your comments, I will try quietly sticking my head once more :)

Vic... I understand your stance on testing. I would say however, that no one in my friends family has ever suffered from any form of cancer. It's clearly not always a reliable indicator of risk. :(

I would say to everyone however, that if you suspect anything wrong in one of the most embarrassing areas of our bodies, demand an endoscopy. Don't allow your GP to repeatedly poke around in your rear end, aggravating something benign like "piles" into becoming something else... mean, nasty and determined to get it's own back.

Thank you again for being so kind everyone. You really are a gorgeous lot! :)

I would say to everyone however, that if you suspect anything wrong in one of the most embarrassing areas of our bodies, demand an endoscopy. Don't allow your GP to repeatedly poke around in your rear end, aggravating something benign like "piles" into becoming something else... mean, nasty and determined to get it's own back.

A couple years ago, my mother had a polyp in her abdominal area removed after an endoscopy showed something worth more scrutiny. It turned out to be benign, but you don't want to take chances on that sort of thing.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

Vic take it from a friend, you don't want to
take chances on that sort of thing.

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Vic take it from a friend, you don't want to
take chances on that sort of thing.

There is no chance of colon cancer, colon cancer is not something that can be caught, dying of old age is all My relatives did, so I'm not worried.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

Vic take it from a friend, you don't want to
take chances on that sort of thing.

There is no chance of colon cancer, colon cancer is not something that can be caught, dying of old age is all My relatives did, so I'm not worried.

Maybe colon cancer can't be caught like a cold or the flu, and maybe you don't have it in your family history, but that doesn't mean you can't get it.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

Vic take it from a friend, you don't want to
take chances on that sort of thing.

There is no chance of colon cancer, colon cancer is not something that can be caught, dying of old age is all My relatives did, so I'm not worried.

Maybe colon cancer can't be caught like a cold or the flu, and maybe you don't have it in your family history, but that doesn't mean you can't get it.

I'm still not going to do it, I saw what My brother went through and all for nothing, He wasted His time on that instead of on the lung cancer that We suspect He got cause of His being in the Navy for just over 20 years while below decks and being exposed to asbestos... So please everyone, don't bother, My mind was made up long ago.

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So please everyone, don't bother, My mind was made up long ago.

Pity because you are wrong, everyone has the same chance with colon cancer

Most colorectal cancer occurs due to lifestyle and increasing age with only a minority of cases associated with underlying genetic disorders

And while it can't be "caught" it can be brought on.

Greater than 75-95% of colon cancer occurs in people with little or no genetic risk. Other risk factors include older age, male gender, high intake of fat, alcohol or red meat, obesity, smoking and a lack of physical exercise. Approximately 10% of cases are linked to insufficient activity

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Greater than 75-95% of colon cancer occurs in people with little or no genetic risk. Other risk factors include older age, male gender, high intake of fat, alcohol or red meat, obesity, smoking and a lack of physical exercise. Approximately 10% of cases are linked to insufficient activity

My intake of fat and red meat has been low to non existent for a number of years, since I really don't eat red meat anymore and My diet has been low in fat for years, nor do I smoke, but then I never have smoked, I don't drink alcohol(boring, I know), I'm still not worried. I can't do a lot of exercise, since the left ankle won't allow that, cause surgery messed the left ankle up severely, though I walk every chance I get, though only with support if I can help it, I saw a walker with 4 wheels that I may get one day.

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Greater than 75-95% of colon cancer occurs in people with little or no genetic risk. Other risk factors include older age, male gender, high intake of fat, alcohol or red meat, obesity, smoking and a lack of physical exercise. Approximately 10% of cases are linked to insufficient activity

My intake of fat and red meat has been low to non existent for a number of years, since I really don't eat red meat anymore and My diet has been low in fat for years, nor do I smoke, but then I never have smoked, I don't drink alcohol(boring, I know), I'm still not worried. I can't do a lot of exercise, since the left ankle won't allow that, cause surgery messed the left ankle up severely, though I walk every chance I get, though only with support if I can help it, I saw a walker with 4 wheels that I may get one day.

So glad to hear that Vic :) your risk factors are low, and given the experience you had with your brother, I can understand why you feel the way you do.

Vic take it from a friend, you don't want to
take chances on that sort of thing.

There is no chance of colon cancer, colon cancer is not something that can be caught, dying of old age is all My relatives did, so I'm not worried.

There was no colon cancer on either side of my family ( as far as I know as anyway ). But yet my dad still had it.
Polyps Are not cancer but can be a precusor to getiing it. My dad was ridden with them. I like knowing that when I have one they can take it out. And they do a biopsy on it.
And the last time I went they put me to sleep so I never knew how big that telescope was they parked in my orbit.
Dont ever go by family history. Cancer was usally called something else back then.

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Vic take it from a friend, you don't want to
take chances on that sort of thing.

There is no chance of colon cancer, colon cancer is not something that can be caught, dying of old age is all My relatives did, so I'm not worried.

There was no colon cancer on either side of my family ( as far as I know as anyway ). But yet my dad still had it.
Polyps Are not cancer but can be a precusor to getiing it. My dad was ridden with them. I like knowing that when I have one they can take it out. And they do a biopsy on it.
And the last time I went they put me to sleep so I never knew how big that telescope was they parked in my orbit.
Dont ever go by family history. Cancer was usally called something else back then.

Drop it James...

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I dont think it's wise to drop preventive health care. Its for our own good.
I dont want to pretend im ok, I want to know. So when the Dr. tells me I should have a test I do it.

Watching some one die is horrible. Ive seen it many times in my own family and strangers. But I refuse to let that stop me from getting tested for something that could save my life.

And if that upsets anyone, Well tough cookies.

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Old James

We may not have Coffee Shops here in California, but we do have Pot Shops.
I have been saved a couple of times by Friends in Amsterdam. Those Trams can stop fast tho, as I seen two bikes wedged under front wheels.
Feeling sad as I lost my Father on Mothers Day in 2001. My Step Mother couldn't wait two weeks for me to attend his funeral. She knew I already had a ticket booked.
Then again, with the wipe out on my Truck and Fence.
At least no lives were lost.

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Sorry for your dad passing Uli. Its never a good day to lose a loved one, But when they pass on a special date or holiday it seems to sting more.

Edit- Just saw those pics. At least a few mothers today are happy.

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Yes it does James.
I made my peace with my Father. Yet to have to make peace with my Stepmother.
She doesn't want any contact. So anger lingers in that respect.
He died alone and that is the hardest part.
I hated the Man for over 19 years. Yet I was the only one willing to attend his funeral. There are four of us.
I will throw in a few flowers in Morecombre as he was buried in the North Sea.

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Was he in the Kreigsmarine? I know sailors like to be buried at sea.

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Oh Ulli - that is so sad :( My stepmother also did not let us know that my dad had died. We did manage to go to the funeral thanks only to my mother - who somehow always knew when someone she loved had just died. (She'd have been burned at the stake in times of old I reckon :)) She rang every hospital then every funeral parlour in the area near where he lived. And yes, when we lose someone on or near significant dates, it makes it all the harder to bear somehow.

I'm going to digress a moment. I found a study into lucid dreaming which it's believed may have significance in helping people suffering with PTSD.

trouble is it involves applying electrical currents to the brain :/

The bit about PTSD is towards the end of the article. Was curious as to what people thought about it. :)

The problem with PTSD is knowing/learning how to switch off & it is not something that can be done easily as switching off a light switch...

Difficulties of adjusting to civvy street

...the thing that annoys me the most is that there are various agencies to cover the "civvies" traumas a la Relationships/Divorce/Children etc but military personnel have to seek out for themselves as many find the "official" agency inadequate.

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Oh Ulli - that is so sad :( My stepmother also did not let us know that my dad had died. We did manage to go to the funeral thanks only to my mother - who somehow always knew when someone she loved had just died. (She'd have been burned at the stake in times of old I reckon :)) She rang every hospital then every funeral parlour in the area near where he lived. And yes, when we lose someone on or near significant dates, it makes it all the harder to bear somehow.

I'm going to digress a moment. I found a study into lucid dreaming which it's believed may have significance in helping people suffering with PTSD.

trouble is it involves applying electrical currents to the brain :/

The bit about PTSD is towards the end of the article. Was curious as to what people thought about it. :)

Good for your Mother Annie, there might be a bit of Sherlock Holmes in Her, afterall the game was afoot, so to speak.

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When my mother was dieing one day I was at work and something told me to go see your mother at the hospital. Well I had many times while she was in the hospital but that day more so than others. My boss said go ahead, so i went. only to walk in the room to see her chocking on chicken skin. I pulled it out of her mouth and she started breathing again. The only other time was about an hour before I was told she died, I had a gut feeling and my sister pulled up with the news. Never had that feeling again with anyone. My mother and I was very close an I respected her to the most.

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Cheers everybody
Life is short so don't sip
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