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Message 1575819 - Posted: 22 Sep 2014, 2:58:37 UTC - in response to Message 1575795.  

Only at Christmas

This is not something to look forward to.
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Message 1575915 - Posted: 22 Sep 2014, 7:56:36 UTC

An interesting report & points raised that Westminster should sit up & take notice of...

Two Scotlands

...it's not going to go away any time soon.
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Message 1575955 - Posted: 22 Sep 2014, 11:09:13 UTC - in response to Message 1575915.  
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An interesting report & points raised that Westminster should sit up & take notice of...

Two Scotlands

...it's not going to go away any time soon.


I've been wondering recently if this Scottish Independence business has come
about due to the Scots tendency to be too insular in nature. Much I wonder
could be said about the Welsh too. Northern Ireland, just getting on with
business as usual and making every effort to make things happen for themselves within the framework of the UK...."Scotland/Wales take note".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29306231

Labour has 41 Scottish MP's. If they are denied a vote on English matters in the Commons, it will seriously weaken Labours position. That is why they are opposing it. The Lib Dems have 11 Scottish MP's, the Tories have 1, therefore Labour will be 29 MP's worse off if this goes through.
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Message 1575957 - Posted: 22 Sep 2014, 11:13:26 UTC

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Message 1575966 - Posted: 22 Sep 2014, 12:00:24 UTC - in response to Message 1575141.  

Been reading up on this Catalonia independence business. Do you think
Cameron agreed to the Scotland referendum as a way of sticking the boot in
on Spain over the Gibraltar issue?

Cameron agreed to the referendum because he is an arrogant out of touch public school tw*t who has no concept about how the Scottish view the British government.

Careful there lassie, you might get labelled an ex-pat bolshie anarchist by "ssssh you know who..."

You say "ex-pat bolshie anarchist" like its a bad thing.


No it's not a bad thing, just saddened that bored f**ts label people that disagrees with them, especially when this pops into mind...

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Message 1575982 - Posted: 22 Sep 2014, 13:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 1575966.  

Been reading up on this Catalonia independence business. Do you think
Cameron agreed to the Scotland referendum as a way of sticking the boot in
on Spain over the Gibraltar issue?

Cameron agreed to the referendum because he is an arrogant out of touch public school tw*t who has no concept about how the Scottish view the British government.

Careful there lassie, you might get labelled an ex-pat bolshie anarchist by "ssssh you know who..."

You say "ex-pat bolshie anarchist" like its a bad thing.


No it's not a bad thing, just saddened that bored f**ts label people that disagrees with them, especially when this pops into mind...


:) Like that.

And as Özz Nûjen says: "Politics is too important to be placed in the hands of politicians."
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Message 1591567 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 21:47:59 UTC

The referendum may be over, but the fallout is going to affect the Labour party come next year.

Scottish Labour Leader stands down

"She told the Daily Record: "Any leader whose general secretary can be removed by London without any consultation is in an untenable position.

"That has to change. The Scottish Labour Party must be a more autonomous party which works in partnership with the UK party.

Lord McConnell, who was first minister between 2001 until 2007, said the party must "rediscover our sense of purpose, our vision for Scotland".

His words echoed those of his predecessor Henry McLeish, who told the BBC: "There's no entitlement to a vote now. Labour has got to realise that every vote has got to be fought for.""

& it's not just Labour who have to take that on-board!
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Message 1594476 - Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 17:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 1591567.  

The referendum may be over, but the fallout is going to affect the Labour party come next year.

Scottish Labour Leader stands down

"She told the Daily Record: "Any leader whose general secretary can be removed by London without any consultation is in an untenable position.

"That has to change. The Scottish Labour Party must be a more autonomous party which works in partnership with the UK party.

Lord McConnell, who was first minister between 2001 until 2007, said the party must "rediscover our sense of purpose, our vision for Scotland".

His words echoed those of his predecessor Henry McLeish, who told the BBC: "There's no entitlement to a vote now. Labour has got to realise that every vote has got to be fought for.""

& it's not just Labour who have to take that on-board!

Can I ask, based on the report of the latest poll, "What Scottish Labour Party?"

Labour facing complete annihilation in Scotland as poll reveals party could win as few as four seats
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Message 1594488 - Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 18:18:44 UTC - in response to Message 1594476.  

Yep, 2015 is definitely going to be an interesting year.
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Message 1597121 - Posted: 5 Nov 2014, 9:17:37 UTC

'Support' for English devolution - BBC poll

It also seems to support my view that too much is spent in London.

Capital spend

48% of people living in the South East agreed too much of the country's resources were spent on the capital

78% of people in the North East - the highest figure in England - thought too much was spent on London

43% of Londoners agreed too much resource was spent on the city
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Message 1602527 - Posted: 19 Nov 2014, 13:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 1463580.  

Your second paragraph sums up the UK position exactly.
We are and have always been a universal trading nation and will do equally well out of Europe.
What was once a free common market has now become a republican monolithic state without any real democracy or accountability to it citizen's.
Should we leave, do you think it likely that the Germans will not want to continue sell their Mercs, VW's etc to the UK?
It might take us a while to re adjust but one thing is for sure, adjust we will.
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Message 1605184 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 7:11:36 UTC

If anyone needs another reason to think Government spending for the regions needs to be urgently debated and corrected.

Funding crisis leaves Newcastle facing ‘impossible cuts’ and social unrest

Figures produced by Newcastle have shown that many northern communities have been hit particularly badly by government spending cuts compared with the south, because of the way funding is calculated.


It must also be noted that Newcastle is only a few miles from the Scottish border, and that Scotland gets more funding per capita than England.
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Message 1610476 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 16:42:09 UTC

He couldn't get them out, so decides to work from within.

2015 is going to be an interesting year
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Message 1610755 - Posted: 8 Dec 2014, 11:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 1610476.  

He couldn't get them out, so decides to work from within.

2015 is going to be an interesting year

Sounds like he isn't popular in Gordon though, so maybe nothing to worry about.
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Message 1613221 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 9:04:42 UTC

I wonder how many North of the Border are thinking, "Good job we didn't vote for independence, because of the fall in oil prices."

At present prices,
There will be no justification to extract the last few expensive barrels for fields that are near the end of life.
There will be no search for new fields.
And all those wind farms will be too expensive to run.
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Message 1613605 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 23:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 1613221.  
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I wonder how many North of the Border are thinking, "Good job we didn't vote for independence, because of the fall in oil prices."

At present prices,
There will be no justification to extract the last few expensive barrels for fields that are near the end of life.
There will be no search for new fields.
And all those wind farms will be too expensive to run.

Winter, that was the big-big loop hole in the Vote for Independence
economics argument, for they placed their eggs all in one basket, based
on the earnings coming from oil.
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Message 1613607 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 23:50:35 UTC

Well, it won't be long before all Scottish laws become Muprhy's Law
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Message 1616354 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 17:47:16 UTC

Twelve years till the next referendum in Scotland!
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