Semantics! NATO is for European protection is it not or are they there to come to the Yanks rescue?

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Semantics! NATO is for European protection is it not or are they there to come to the Yanks rescue?

When Vladimir invades Alaska (a former Russian territory), we expect you to do your duty.

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Semantics! NATO is for European protection is it not or are they there to come to the Yanks rescue?

It was NATO that fought in Afghanistan after 9/11 and I wouldn't call that protecting Europe. And yes, if the Americans get invaded we have to go help them. We are obliged to help them.

And yes, if the Americans get invaded we have to go help them. We are obliged to help them.

It needn't be your highest concern (or ours), but it should be said occasionally.

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Semantics! NATO is for European protection is it not or are they there to come to the Yanks rescue?

It was NATO that fought in Afghanistan after 9/11 and I wouldn't call that protecting Europe. And yes, if the Americans get invaded we have to go help them. We are obliged to help them.

Ah, but will they let us in, when we sent some of our military rations to help out after Katrina they were rejected and dumped. No military organisation is going to move without its food.

Semantics! NATO is for European protection is it not or are they there to come to the Yanks rescue?

It was NATO that fought in Afghanistan after 9/11 and I wouldn't call that protecting Europe. And yes, if the Americans get invaded we have to go help them. We are obliged to help them.

Ah, but will they let us in, when we sent some of our military rations to help out after Katrina they were rejected and dumped. No military organisation is going to move without its food.

Well if they don't want our help then fine, we don't send help.

Well if they don't want our help then fine, we don't send help.

The U.S. bureaucracy is not good at accepting aid; they are more used to giving it.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/02/accepting-disaster-relief-from-other-nations-lessons-from-katrina-and-the-gulf-oil-spill

Also, what is not mentioned is that relief workers themselves have to be supported in a disaster area with food, clean water, shelter, etc. Oftentimes even U.S. relief workers are asked to stay away unless they have specific skills that are needed. But thanks for the offers.

Merkel gives Europe "The Bird".

With all her fancy talk of "Political & Economic Union", it seems she's a closet Liberal Democrat - Keeps her own & prevents others from doing so!

Explain this Merkel

As stated in another thread, it seems our "glorious leaders" are indeed cockroaches!

Further mine closures to cost 1300 jobs

We abide by the EU rules to maintain clear air and carbon down & just what does Germany do?

"And not just any old coal, but lignite, the dirtiest form of this ancient fossil fuel that is mined in vast opencast pits.

Two new lignite plants were opened in 2012, with a further two in the pipeline. Another two hard coal plants also opened last year, with a further five opening this year or next, with two more awaiting licences."

& Last but not least, another politico with nothing to do but think up crazy ideas.....

No more number plates, instead we'll get "common colours"

Hmmn, wonder what political party thought that one up?

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So on the one hand you're critiscising the open of coal mines, and on the other you're critiscising the closing of them. Do make up your mind.

You're acting like Merkel has personally opened these new mines, she hasn't.
She's responsible for guiding Germany in the right direction, which if you look at the graph in the article, they're still heading in. This is just a blip.

And as for the Daily Mail story, my opinion on that comic has been stated many times before.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

So on the one hand you're critiscising the open of coal mines, and on the other you're critiscising the closing of them. Do make up your mind.

You're acting like Merkel has personally opened these new mines, she hasn't.
She's responsible for guiding Germany in the right direction, which if you look at the graph in the article, they're still heading in. This is just a blip.

And as for the Daily Mail story, my opinion on that comic has been stated many times before.

Missing the point here I see. Another one bashing "comic readers". Not for one or the other, just showing the duplicity of politicians.

And not just any old coal, but lignite, the dirtiest form of this ancient fossil fuel.

Whatever happened to their Carbon Emission or Clean Air Policies?

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Whatever happened to their Carbon Emission or Clean Air Policies?

You realize Germany is one of the biggest drivers behind clean energy in Europe right. However, their accelerated closure of nuclear power plants has not kept up with the creation of enough sustainable alternatives. So they currently replace it for the moment with this crap. It is going to get closed again once they have enough clean energy sources again.

Whatever happened to their Carbon Emission or Clean Air Policies?

You realize Germany is one of the biggest drivers behind clean energy in Europe right. However, their accelerated closure of nuclear power plants has not kept up with the creation of enough sustainable alternatives. So they currently replace it for the moment with this crap. It is going to get closed again once they have enough clean energy sources again.

...in other words, just like everything else...

...the ends justify the means.

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Whatever happened to their Carbon Emission or Clean Air Policies?

You realize Germany is one of the biggest drivers behind clean energy in Europe right. However, their accelerated closure of nuclear power plants has not kept up with the creation of enough sustainable alternatives. So they currently replace it for the moment with this crap. It is going to get closed again once they have enough clean energy sources again.

Really?

Green dreams meet harsh reality

"In addition to the lignite already earmarked for extraction, they say there are another 1.6 billion tonnes approved for future mining in this area alone and demand remains high.

And, for the time being, the demand for the coal as a power source gives the operators a massive incentive for expansion."

"This mirrors Germany's own ambitions with a plan known as the Energiewende, best translated as "energy transition", which calls for at least 80% of power to come from renewable sources by 2050."

"The lignite, also known as brown coal, is one of the dirtiest, most polluting kinds of fuel, but it helps generate no less than 26% of Germany's electricity.

Add in the country's harder black coal as well and you find that nearly half of the country's electricity comes from the one source which climate scientists argue most needs to be phased out."

So 36 years to get a move on...

..never going to happen, at least not in that timescale!

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So 36 years to get a move on...

..never going to happen, at least not in that timescale!

36 years is a long time. I think its feasible, as long as the government remains committed to pursuing such a policy. But its true, there are quite a few delays, mostly thanks to local opposition towards more windmills and the fact that the energy distribution infrastructure needs to be set up differently again.

Now their banning our food :-(

I love mangoes.

EU wide ban on mangoes

"She added that the European Commission did not seem to have consulted importers before moving to a ban."

It's about time the EC bureaucrats had some mangoes put somewhere nice and dark...

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We do it & we'd see the inside of a cell block however...

Community service

...Eu politician attempts to give back to the community...

...4 hours a week while he continues to sup at his palatial home...

...nice life being a politician/bureaucrat.

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You realize Germany is one of the biggest drivers behind clean energy in Europe right. However, their accelerated closure of nuclear power plants has not kept up with the creation of enough sustainable alternatives. So they currently replace it for the moment with this crap. It is going to get closed again once they have enough clean energy sources again.

Maybe I am repeating myself here, but nuclear is the only technology that we have that can create enough clean energy to have any hope of reducing global warming enough. But it requires replacing fears with rationality. And it is the first big test that the entire human race has engaged in that will test whether we can do that. It will probably also be the last.

Community service

This was for tax evasion. In the US of A any high profile tax cheat goes to jail.

Maybe I am repeating myself here, but nuclear is the only technology that we have that can create enough clean energy to have any hope of reducing global warming enough. But it requires replacing fears with rationality.

Give me my super cheap natural gas over a melt down any day. I was nuked in 79 so not in my back yard. How about yours?

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Give me my super cheap natural gas over a melt down any day. I was nuked in 79 so not in my back yard. How about yours?

Natural gas is a nice alternative to coal and oil, but still emits too much CO2 to allow our civilization to continue as it has. I am 75 miles from TMI and wish we had a nuclear plant closer. It would provide more energy security.

By the way, you missed the part about rationality. No one was killed or hurt at TMI. An entire world civilization is going (not maybe) to go out due to global warming if it is not stopped now.

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Natural gas is a nice alternative to coal and oil, but still emits too much CO2 to allow our civilization to continue as it has. [/quote]
How is getting a few degrees warmer going to wipe out humans?

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