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Message 1421364 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 10:50:46 UTC

Er sorry, we are closed for business until further notice. Please check back next week.

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Message 1421372 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 11:22:20 UTC

I like how seriously the BBC is taking the story with that video.
"Don't worry, the animals will still be fed during a shutdown".
They've covered the important points.

So a few low paid workers get fired, so what, no doubt the senators keep their pay and perks.
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Message 1421377 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 11:39:31 UTC
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Message 1421378 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 11:39:36 UTC

I liked this bit ...

"Voting for the treasury to pay its bills is not a concession to me," he said. "No-one gets to hurt our economy... just because there are a couple of laws [they] don't like."

That reminds me of Dubbya when the UN refused to give him a mandate to invade Iraq he said "No-one tells America what to do."

What is it about American Presidents that they think they are Lord God Almighty? Is that what they think, or what they get told?


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Message 1421380 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 11:46:54 UTC - in response to Message 1421378.
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Message 1421399 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 13:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 1421378.

I liked this bit ...
What is it about American Presidents that they think they are Lord God Almighty? Is that what they think, or what they get told?


Damn, they say patience is a virtue, well that's now confirmed!

What's this? The famed USA poodle Mr Chris S, the USA's own Brit champion finally having a pop at the US?

Who would have believed it?
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Message 1421438 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 15:09:09 UTC - in response to Message 1421378.

What is it about American Presidents that they think they are Lord God Almighty?

You have to be sick in the head that way to ever want the job.

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Message 1421638 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 21:24:32 UTC

They've been down this road before, last year or the year before if my memory
serves me right. So nothing new, all will be resolved in good time.

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Message 1421649 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 21:41:08 UTC - in response to Message 1421638.

They've been down this road before, last year or the year before if my memory
serves me right. So nothing new, all will be resolved in good time.



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Message 1421851 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 5:26:10 UTC - in response to Message 1421822.

11:19 update.

The House of Representatives votes to amend temporary spending bill that would avert a government shutdown to include a delay of ObamaCare by one year. The bill will now go to the Senate, where Democrats have threatened to reject it.

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Message 1421897 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 8:26:01 UTC

You have to be sick in the head that way to ever want the job.

I think that is a bit strong Gary. To be President of the United States of America is to be in most ways, the most powerful man in the world. But that power brings with it awesome responsibilities. But it is well known that he is surrounded by military advisors that like nothing better than to vote for another war for their own purposes. Military prowess only gets you so far in the world, if you want true followers you need something more than just guns and bullets to offer them.

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Message 1422013 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 16:10:43 UTC - in response to Message 1421897.

You have to be sick in the head that way to ever want the job.

I think that is a bit strong Gary. To be President of the United States of America is to be in most ways, the most powerful man in the world. But that power brings with it awesome responsibilities. But it is well known that he is surrounded by military advisors that like nothing better than to vote for another war for their own purposes. Military prowess only gets you so far in the world, if you want true followers you need something more than just guns and bullets to offer them.

Chris, you likely don't set the full measure of the story of the building of corruption necessary to want that office over there. The 2016 Presidential campaign started before the votes were counted for the 2012 election. That is over four years of US style campaign corruption a person is going to engage in. No fully sane person would ever do that. Yes, sick in the head is the correct term. Perhaps not in a was that shows up in the DSM but still not normal.

Perhaps another way to look at this is, how many of late have been caught doing criminal things? What percent of the general population is caught doing criminal things? Does that data suggest there may be a correlation?

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Message 1422106 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 20:10:20 UTC - in response to Message 1421364.

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Message 1422108 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 20:13:01 UTC

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Message 1422199 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 1:52:25 UTC

It makes me sick to my stomach. I had to go through that when I was in the service in 1977. We were told by Our commander while was doing a remote tour at Shemya AK. That we might not get paid if the Gov did not pass a budget. To say that there were some pissed off people would be a vast understatement. Thats also where my eyes were openend about the crap that goes on in Washington DC.

I hate both political parties. They are scum sucking, money grubbing back stabbing worthless pieces of dog dung. They are more concernd with lining thier own pockets then serving us the constituits. The ony thing we get is a shaft hard and deep in the keyster.
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Message 1422278 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 7:56:42 UTC

I hate both political parties. They are scum sucking, money grubbing back stabbing worthless pieces of dog dung.

Even I would challenge that as a rather biased comment James! The problem with effectively a two party system in government is that when they both get as bad as each other, there is no practical third choice. At least in the UK we have provision for a coalition in that case, as do some other countries. Once people get turned off from politics and politicians it is very hard if not impossible to change their minds. Both the USA and the UK have tried to introduce a third party i.e. the Tea Party and UKIP, but they have both become the protest vote.

So tell me James, is it the parties and their policies that you so strongly disagree with, or the individual people that run those parties and policies. If you would like to see the back of the whole lot of them, how would you suggest that the country is run instead? You could scrap central government and devolve the whole lot to the State Governors (some think thats been done already!) But we left Lords of the Manor behind in the Middle Ages.

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Message 1422318 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 12:05:30 UTC

*yawn* Just congress having another hissy fit because they do not want people getting health care. They keep voting to repeal it, it gets shot down in the Senate over and over and never makes it to the presidents desk where it would be vetoed anyway. And then they turn around and try to blame the president.
The people have spoken, the President has spoken, the Senate has spoken, and Congress won't shut the heck up or do any other meaningful work if they do not get their way.

The opposite of Progress...
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Message 1422327 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 12:19:43 UTC

Well Janice, Congress can mean two things, but it sounds like everyone is getting screwed!

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Message 1422353 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 13:24:08 UTC - in response to Message 1422327.

They are playing chicken with the economy. Heck they burnt the world economy down in 2008, might be time for them to do it again.
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Message 1422355 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 13:31:22 UTC

Being based in the UK I obviously don't have enough first hand knowledge to comment in any depth here, I only wish I did. This health care business is a bit mystifying to us over the pond who have taken the NHS for granted since 1948. Ok it seems to be falling apart at the seams at the moment, but it is still the envy of the world.

Why doesn't Congress want it? Is there a simple answer?

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