Ah, that link, by a well known statistician (not), specialist subjects "Bible, Apologetics, Worldview". A hydraulics engineer turned theologian, departed engineering some fifty years ago, so really up to date (not), shuffled off this mortal coil in 2006.
Even when I did a bit of hydraulics his work, and understanding was dated!

Back to your question, yes I did, great set of abstract statistical arguments that are designed to thrill the innocent, but his arguments do not stand up to any serious scrutiny.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

The problem with intelligent design:

Design takes time.

Time starts when the universe is created.

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I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

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The problem with intelligent design:

Design takes time.

Time starts when the universe is created.

so you are saying God did evolution. Problem solved I say we pop off to the pub get lit and call it a night.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

its called divergence. Look it up. there is no 1 species changing to another

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

The problem with intelligent design:

Design takes time.

Time starts when the universe is created.

so you are saying God did evolution. Problem solved I say we pop off to the pub get lit and call it a night.

Beer o'clock it is!

All Hail Thor the Designer.

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The neighborhood pub just got in a real good Octoberfest, it will be beer o-clock for me in 2 hours.
Hail Thor.

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The neighborhood pub just got in a real good Octoberfest, it will be beer o-clock for me in 2 hours.
Hail Thor.

Bit late in getting its supplies isn't it, Octoberfest starts in September.

They got it in last week but sadly I didn't find it until Monday.

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They got it in last week but sadly I didn't find it until Monday.

Please stay on topic, thank you.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

Yay, Thor is buying, large schooner of port my good man if you please :-)

Please stay on topic, thank you.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

The problem with intelligent design:

Design takes time.

Time starts when the universe is created.

so you are saying God did evolution. Problem solved I say we pop off to the pub get lit and call it a night.

Beer o'clock it is!

All Hail Thor the Designer.

And--please stay on topic, thank you.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'll turn this around for you all.

You all are so ingrained to believe that there is no design. I have shown you all many times the very design. You reject it for your government run indoctrination systems beliefs.

None of you will come out of this mold the system has created for you.

I was once a believer of neo-darwinism. What changed my mind is odds. If something cannot happen within the lifetime of the universe it will not happen. I have clearly seen with my own two designed eyes that none of you have bothered to talk about the math. I posted it and shut you down after that post.

Lets talk about that math shall we? I was overzealous in shutting you down on this, my apologies.....

Sorry, but you have provided no evidence for design, just philosophical arguments. And your statistical argument is wrong. Try to step away from this dogmatic belief in ID and ask yourself this question - Why would scientists have worked so hard since Darwin to deliberately promote an incorrect theory (evolution) and how would they have sustained such a conspiracy?

Do you have ANY proof of one species changing into another?

its called divergence. Look it up. there is no 1 species changing to another

Neo-Darwinism claims that one cell in our distant past changed into all the life we see today.

There is no proof of this. I'm sorry but you don't seem to understand what you belive in. There would be creationist, 7 day plan. There would be young earthers. There would be me and my belief in Intelligent Design, that would be billions of years. Then there is just Darwinism, I believe in this also. Then there would be Neo-Darwinism, the place you have said you belong.

If I have left something out please inform me so I don't make the same mistake again.

However, Neo-Darwinism does claim (without proof) that all life came from a single cell in our distant past. This tells us that life has indeed changed by one species turning into another over a long time.

This would be the second time I have told you this. If your belief system has changed or if I have misunderstood please let me know, as I said I don't wish to be mistaken about this....

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

The problem with intelligent design:

Design takes time.

Time starts when the universe is created.

It also takes thought before the action of creation. A blueprint if you like...

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

There's a topic! news to me, Intelligent design is so complete a myth because absolutely nobody has any proof of the designer(s).

There's a topic! news to me, Intelligent design is so complete a myth because absolutely nobody has any proof of the designer(s).

Please prove that there is something called a blackhole. We have come to believe in blackholes by what goes on around it. It is much the same for Intelligent Design. We look for the design around everything we see.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

We define blackholes as the centre of an area of space, which looks empty, where we see movement of stars and clouds that must be caused by a massive spinning gravitational source.

At present we don't know what is inside the event horizon, but we don't need to, we have defined the space as a blackhole.

Around us on this planet, I see all sorts of things in a constant state of evolution. The only things I see that have been designed, have all been designed by man, or in some cases the results of mans ill concieved designs.

We define blackholes as the centre of an area of space, which looks empty, where we see movement of stars and clouds that must be caused by a massive spinning gravitational source.

At present we don't know what is inside the event horizon, but we don't need to, we have defined the space as a blackhole.

Around us on this planet, I see all sorts of things in a constant state of evolution. The only things I see that have been designed, have all been designed by man, or in some cases the results of mans ill concieved designs.

WinterKnight, when does theory trump observation? I have shown you many things in nature that have been designed. Many links I have given you of that proof. You have rejected them all for theory when in fact theory NEVER trumps observation--ever.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

Because none of those links actually contain any new science that makes the old theories redundant.