If I recall there is evidence in the bible of a leper colony practising what we would recognise today as an isolation hospital or barrier nursing.

Those silly, stupid ancients. Thank goodness we have Brainiacs today like Robert Waite to set out a righteous path for us.

The sun, the moon and the stars were not created until day 4, after life was created on earth?

Those that consider the bible infallible should take some time to think here..
Come on.. I know you can do it!!

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Janice

Thank goodness we have Brainiacs today like Robert Waite to set out a righteous path for us.

It was a simple question Sarge. Why wouldn't the creator of the universe and all life within it have something to say about microbes?

After all, those microbes that the creator saw fit to place here with us are the source of so many of our illnesses.
If the invisible man in the sky had time to spell out what to eat and what not to eat, if he had time to tell us how to treat our wives, children and slaves, why not take a moment to tell us about microbes and the functions they provide in the grand scheme?

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

Thank goodness we have Brainiacs today like Robert Waite to set out a righteous path for us.

It was a simple question Sarge. Why wouldn't the creator of the universe and all life within it have something to say about microbes?

After all, those microbes that the creator saw fit to place here with us are the source of so many of our illnesses.
If the invisible man in the sky had time to spell out what to eat and what not to eat, if he had time to tell us how to treat our wives, children and slaves, why not take a moment to tell us about microbes and the functions they provide in the grand scheme?

Look, pasta wasn't even invented until a few hundred years ago.
How could the Flying Spaghetti Monster have created the world?!?
Unless ...
... we had help from extraterrestrial pasta, that interacted with some primitive form of pasta and manipulated it over the course of thousands of years until it look like the pasta we have and eat today?
Could it be?
And the answer is ... yes!

But Spaghetti is only a variation on Noodles and they have been around for over 4,000 years.

hail the god pasta

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sarge the math doesn't lie ,I think you get my consept

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I am now a self confessed Pastafarian, I have been touched by His Noodlyness ...

Ramen.

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Janice

But Spaghetti is only a variation on Noodles and they have been around for over 4,000 years.

So, you believe the world is only slightly older than 4000 years?
How dare you?!? His Noodliness writ in his Noodly hand in his Holy Noodles Book that he created it 83242 years ago!

4.7 billion years old.

Steve

Edit: And, just about everything on earth is the result of a previously exploded star(s).

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Here is an easy idea.
If we know the exact distance between any two points on one side of the earth, and pick a galaxy to pin point. Measure the exact angle from each point to that galaxy, and by simple triangulation, you will get the distance to that galaxy. Since the light from those galaxies travels at a constant rate, it becomes simple math to calculate how far away that galaxy is. If it is older than 6000 years.... then the universe must be older than that. If the universe is really 13.75 billion years old, then what sense does it make to say the earth is only 6000 years old, when we can see various solar systems in different stages of development, and see what it takes to build a planetary system.

That doesn't even include red shifts, just simple triangulation.

Steve

Universe = 13.75 billion years old, created in 7 days.... Really?????
That seems a bit of a stretch to me.

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

4.7 billion years old.

Steve

Edit: And, just about everything on earth is the result of a previously exploded star(s).

HIS HOLY NOODLINESS curses you, blashpemer!










;)

4.7 billion years old.

Steve

Edit: And, just about everything on earth is the result of a previously exploded star(s).

HIS HOLY NOODLINESS curses you, blashpemer!










;)

Yep! I don't have a problem with that. :)

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

But Spaghetti is only a variation on Noodles and they have been around for over 4,000 years.

So, you believe the world is only slightly older than 4000 years?
How dare you?!? His Noodliness writ in his Noodly hand in his Holy Noodles Book that he created it 83242 years ago!

The addition of the word slightly is your creation not mine.

Of course 4,001 is over 4,000, but so is 79,283,932.

Nice deflection. Well done.

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I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I guess we all believe in something which is a start ?

some like Aliens others Angels now if we could just live without killing each other we might just be gettting the message

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Mark. I am still writing...

So we now have both the Bible - and the Universe as we know it by means of its existence and precence and also know how it is working.

What is the most important point or fact then? Does the Bible give us the final solution to our quest for understanding - or is it our knowledge of the Universe as we think it is built up and functioning?

Maybe you could give me an answer to this question, Chris.

The only thing I know is that E=mc2 and that there are three known laws of gravity.

The three laws of Isaac Newton, that is.

Did Albert Einstein ever come up with anything better?

Or is it rather four laws right now? I am going to have a look in one of my books.

Since I have the time, I could point out that as far as I know it, Einstein published his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905, followed by the General Theory of Relativity in 1915 or 1916. I assume that the second part (or latter) is the more comprehensive one.

This also means that we are living in a "Relativistic Universe". The physical laws that are present in nature is a result of this fact.

So we now have both the Bible - and the Universe we know exists.

What is the most important then? Does the Bible give us the final solution
to our quest for understanding - or is it Our knowledge of the Universe as we think it is built up and functioning?

Maybe you could give me an answer to this question, Chris.

The only thing I know is that E=mc2 and that there are three laws of gravity.

The three laws of Isaac Newton, that is.

Did Albert Einstein ever come up with anything better?

Or is it rather four laws right now? I am going to have a look in one of my books.

I'll come up with it in the next hour or so........LOL.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I know I'm not Chris,
But Einstein did come up with "better" than Newton?
First and General theories of relativity. Both encompass Newton's theories, which were of course bounded by his limited observational tools.

Both these are "better" in the sense that they are better fits to our current observational based understanding of how the universe works.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

The fact that scriptures and the Bible came up with nothing relating to modern science or for that matter current society should tell you exactly what is worth.