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Message 1352984 - Posted: 3 Apr 2013, 21:34:49 UTC

Very nicely done! Congratulations to the SETI team.
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Message 1353023 - Posted: 3 Apr 2013, 23:05:44 UTC

Holy crap!!

My Boinc client is reporting download speeds of upwards of 700KBps (that's right, KBps)!!

I hope this is indicative of our future experience with the colo bandwidth!

Congrats Seti team on a job excellently done!! Nice to see things back up and running!

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Message 1353086 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 3:08:36 UTC
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Message 1353151 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 6:33:41 UTC

Congrats to all the roster for this big move ! :)
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Message 1353184 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 8:20:57 UTC

For those of you who did not go to the Boinc boards during the outage

Here is what is suspected of being the "New Home of the SETI@Home servers"

Warren Hall, 2195 Hearst Avenue Google Street View

Home of the IST

On the IST page have a look at the "Service Link" for a full description.

Thanks to Richard Haselgrove for the info


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Message 1353200 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 9:51:27 UTC

Amazing performance for xfer rates!

If this is what we can expect from the Colo for transfer speeds in the future, and not just a dialed up speed for post-move recovery, it might be a good idea to consider how to kick up the research a notch or three because we won't be losing impatient folks any longer, I don't think, and chances are good that a lot of folks might start trickling back. Not only that, but I don't see many machines with idle GPU's or CPU's in the future - provided you can split the data fast enough!
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Message 1353201 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 9:53:02 UTC - in response to Message 1353184.  

Thanks Bernie ! :)
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Message 1353205 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 10:04:29 UTC

The campus Data Center is a hardened facility that provides a precision environment for the housing of mission-critical servers and related equipment. The facility is connected to the campus backbone network via two separate 10-Gigabit trunks for high availability. Customers are provided rack space in lockable cabinets with dual power connections, backup UPS, remote management access for servers, hardware installation assistance, and staffed Data Center Operations Desk.


It certainly does sound like an ideal place to be, and I can see why the no pictures rule. Is it costing Seti to be in there, or is this a free uni service?

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Message 1353208 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 10:20:32 UTC - in response to Message 1353205.  
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It certainly does sound like an ideal place to be, and I can see why the no pictures rule. Is it costing Seti to be in there, or is this a free uni service?


"Costs: $10.00 per rack-unit per month. Includes all utilities and remote console services."

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Message 1353209 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 10:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 1353205.  

The campus Data Center is a hardened facility that provides a precision environment for the housing of mission-critical servers and related equipment. The facility is connected to the campus backbone network via two separate 10-Gigabit trunks for high availability. Customers are provided rack space in lockable cabinets with dual power connections, backup UPS, remote management access for servers, hardware installation assistance, and staffed Data Center Operations Desk.


It certainly does sound like an ideal place to be, and I can see why the no pictures rule. Is it costing Seti to be in there, or is this a free uni service?

Two lines above the paragraph you quoted, IST say

Costs: $10.00 per rack-unit per month. Includes all utilities and remote console services.

I imagine that by rack-unit they mean the 1U, 2U, 3U etc. by which the height of servers and other electronic equipment is measured: a standard full-height rack cabinet is 42U, so I'm assuming $420 per rack per month ($10 wouldn't cover the electricity bill alone for a fully-loaded cabinet). The recently-donated servers are much more compact than their predecessors, and with better remote access they probably don't need to waste space on that monitor shown in the 'old closet' photographs: they may have been able to squeeze everything they need into one rack.

And I'd also imagine that the IST accountants will want their pound of flesh at full tariff rates. Whether that has to be found additionally to SETI's existing budget, or whether something creative has been done to subsidise it, I have no way of knowing. There'll be a huge saving in electricity and air-conditioning costs at the SSL available to offset it, and from what I've been told about the noise levels generated by the SETI servers, the other staff in the SSL might well have had a whip-round to hasten their departure. :)
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Message 1353229 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 12:49:29 UTC

Yes, I missed that figure Richard, thanks for pointing it out. This move must obviously have been costed out in advance and found to be affordable, as well as beneficial. Having had a brief look at the map, it most certainly doesn't seem to be a 5 minute trot down the hill from Gauss Way to Hearst Avenue. It looks like it's either round the houses via Centennial Drive, or cross country via Cyclotron Road :-0

But Eric, Matt, Jeff etc are meant to be project scientists not server technicians, so this should free them up to concentrate more on the main project objectives. It's all looking good so far.

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Message 1353284 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 14:47:29 UTC - in response to Message 1353209.  

... and from what I've been told about the noise levels generated by the SETI servers, the other staff in the SSL might well have had a whip-round to hasten their departure. :)

The (admittedly large) 'compute cluster closet' at where I used to work has a big yellow notice on the door insisting that ear defenders must be worn before entering. An hour in there still leaves your ears ringing...


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Message 1353334 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 16:25:28 UTC

It looks like IST also provides SAN, NAS, & iSCSI services. So that may be an option in the future so they don't have to deal with managing their storage equipment.
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Message 1353342 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 16:46:45 UTC - in response to Message 1353229.  

Yes, I missed that figure Richard, thanks for pointing it out. This move must obviously have been costed out in advance and found to be affordable, as well as beneficial. Having had a brief look at the map, it most certainly doesn't seem to be a 5 minute trot down the hill from Gauss Way to Hearst Avenue. It looks like it's either round the houses via Centennial Drive, or cross country via Cyclotron Road :-0

But Eric, Matt, Jeff etc are meant to be project scientists not server technicians, so this should free them up to concentrate more on the main project objectives. It's all looking good so far.


With modern remote access tools they should only really need to actually have "hands on" when installing or repairing hardware. Power and cooling problems should be a thing of the past! Did anyone notice IST has it's own diesel generator!
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Message 1353549 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 6:47:34 UTC

I would just like to send a bunch of kitty high fives to all who made this work.

I have been crunching Seti for a long time now, and I cannot remember a time when things looked so good.
I know, the moment I say that, Murphy is gonna have his say about things.......

But really. I don't know who first came up with the colo idea. But it has come to fruition now, and at the moment things could not look better for the project.

And I suspect that even with increased comms, with the bandwidth available now, this might be even easier on the servers, what with not having to deal with the tangled mess of retries and botched comms.

Upward and onward goes the Seti search.

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Message 1353580 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 8:03:11 UTC

Thank you for your work !

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Message 1353588 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 8:59:44 UTC - in response to Message 1353549.  

Upward and onward goes the Seti search.

Meows and thanks to all who made this happen.

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Message 1353590 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 9:08:53 UTC
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Thanks for this big move.
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Message 1353591 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 9:10:46 UTC - in response to Message 1353342.  


With modern remote access tools they should only really need to actually have "hands on" when installing or repairing hardware. Power and cooling problems should be a thing of the past! Did anyone notice IST has it's own diesel generator!


I'm surprised they don't have a gas turbine power plant to provide emergency power.

Of course, that would be a BIT noisy even at idle.
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Message 1353597 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 10:14:16 UTC - in response to Message 1353580.  
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Thank you for your work !

Now that they have done their work, how about you finally do yours (seeing as you don't read your Private Messages) and stop your PC from throwing all those invalid results on that 560Ti.

That will help the servers even more. ;-)

Cheers.
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