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Message 1352119 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 13:36:29 UTC

The fuse is burning fast & bright.........

Savers now facing a potential 60% deduction

"President of Cyprus says there is 'no intention' of leaving the eurozone"

Those words Mr President will come back & bite your ass!

You hit your citizens that hard & we'll see how long you remain in power as well as Cyprus remaining in the pig sty known as the Euro.
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Message 1352187 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 17:58:29 UTC

ISO9000 is a total toss

It is only concerned with paperwork (in my experience) not the quality of the product.

Your products may be total crap, but as long as the paper trail says they are total crap, you still get the ISO9000 certification.

I have been with companies seeking this certification and when the "inspectors" came around, all they were interested in was the written procedures, work instructions etc. Not once did they go out and look at the workshop or factory floor. In one case they only went to "head office" which was an administration centre only.

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Message 1352201 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 18:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 1352187.

ISO9000 is a total toss

It is only concerned with paperwork (in my experience) not the quality of the product.

Your products may be total crap, but as long as the paper trail says they are total crap, you still get the ISO9000 certification.

I have been with companies seeking this certification and when the "inspectors" came around, all they were interested in was the written procedures, work instructions etc. Not once did they go out and look at the workshop or factory floor. In one case they only went to "head office" which was an administration centre only.

T.A.

Ive been employed for two companys who went through the process. And both times they were on the shop floor. The last time is where I work now. And we are do for recertifacation this year. But I agree they look at paper work.
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Message 1352294 - Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 1:35:15 UTC

No chance of the fuse being extinguished just yet.........

It's ROBBERY!

Couple of statements that says it all.....

"For a currency that promised to provide a sure bet on a glorious future, the euro is turning into the biggest theft of people’s savings in Western Europe since the war."

"But all this human sacrifice in the eurozone – austerity, mass unemployment, arbitrary bank account levies – is about saving the euro. You wonder how much pain there has to be before someone realises that what must be sacrificed is the euro itself."

Europe sleepwalked into WWII.....

...Will we see worse?


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Message 1352339 - Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 6:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 1352187.

ISO9000 is a total toss

It is only concerned with paperwork (in my experience) not the quality of the product.

Your products may be total crap, but as long as the paper trail says they are total crap, you still get the ISO9000 certification.



Thanks Terror, clearly you know what many others involved in Quality Assurance
state regarding ISO90000. My brother for one, he spent many years cutting his
teeth in QA and the words you used are virtually the ones he used in telling
me this donky's years ago.

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Message 1352417 - Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 11:06:43 UTC

Various posters here are correct in that ISO9000 and other Quality Assurance standards are to do with the PAPERWORK not the product itself.

and designed to help organizations ensure that they meet the needs of customers and other stakeholders while meeting statutory and regulatory requirements related to the product.

The needs of the customers are met by the customers producing a specification for the product. All the QA paperwork does is to ensure that systems are in place to meet the stated requirements of the customer. If the customer specifies crap, they ensure that they get crap, but it will be safe crap! I spent 5 years in a company HQ group as a specifying engineer for various Engineering items. We wrote a speification for the item detailing the materials, construction, finish, quality of workmanship, performance etc. The drawings to be used were listed together with any BS or EN standards that were applicable. Upon awarding a contract to a supplier, pre-production samples were obtained and tested by our own QA Dept against the specification. Upon approval, 3 samples were securely sealed & marked, one for us, one for our QA and one for the supplier.

Our QA would visit the supplier and verify that their own internal QA systems were adequate to ensure that production batches would produce the required product in accordance with the reference samples. Random QA inspections did on occasions take place, and sometimes contractual concessions on items were agreed with our QA . We also had savvy QA inspectors who might call us up and say, there is a high scrap rate with this item, we suggest a tougher grade of material for the handle. Everybody was clear as to the requirements of the contract, and the systems were in place to make sure it happened. QA ensures that the customers get what they pay for, but too many people see it as a necessary evil.

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Message 1352652 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 3:29:54 UTC

Bitcoins on the rise, are they beter than the euro ?!!
well, if your country is bankrupt . . . .

http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/bitcoin-rises-113701733.html

http://my.news.yahoo.com/bitcoin-cyprus-sparks-scramble-digital-164900785.html?.tsrc=yahoo

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cyprus-banking-crisis-good-news-bitcoin-214900869.html

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Message 1352781 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 11:58:33 UTC

This Bitcoin thing just leaves me totally dumbfounded. Somebody somewhere is busting their britches laughing at something which was obiously meant to be a harmless joke, but seemingly being taken seriously. I predict tears before bedtime.

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Message 1352808 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 12:45:59 UTC

A Ponzi scheme that would make Bernie Madoff proud.
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Message 1352878 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:58:49 UTC

Value made on the whicp of the Internet, and a bit like the Casino Bank packages that nearly killed the Financial system in 2007/2008 ...
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Message 1352987 - Posted: 3 Apr 2013, 21:40:26 UTC

Worrying figures released yesterday......

Flogging a dead horse

....they're teaching us a lesson in mind over matter....

"they don't mind & we don't matter".
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Message 1353231 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 13:05:15 UTC
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What a sauce! Hollande

Worrying figures released yesterday......
Flogging a dead horse

we need to look deeper into the reasons why the following is so ....

Almost six in every ten Greeks aged under 25 are kicking their heels in the dole queue instead of forging a career and building a future. More than 55 per cent of young Spaniards are in the same position. In Portugal and Italy, where just under 40 per cent of the under 25s are out of work, it is scarcely better. France is meant to be one of the two core nations of the eurozone, yet 26 per cent of its young people are out of work.

Is it because of the same problem in the UK that most school leavers, and under 25's are not just unemployed, but unemployable? If so then Europe has a much wider education problem than was thought.

And what about this? And they want to run all the EU countries budgets, because they think that their own economies are the strongest, and they know what they are doing?

Germany's economy slowed to "near stagnation" last month, while France's recorded its biggest contraction for four years, according to a closely watched survey.
Stagnation

So we have dodgy French Presidents and megalomaniac German Chancellors, so nothing new there then. Now a large number of young Europeans can't find work. But there is a world recession at the moment, it not all Europes own fault. Their weak Mediterranean economies based on tourism were always going to suffer first in a downturn. Even Greece with the largest Merchant Navy fleet in the world only manages to get 4.5% GDP from it.

Let's get back to what the EEC was originally intended to produce, profitable trade amongst international countries, and keep as much politics out of it as possible. But if we let the weaker countries go under, we will see mass emigration to the stronger areas. We need to be part of it, but not as it is at the moment.

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Message 1353246 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 13:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 1353231.

That nicely fits in with these.....

Germany isn't living up to EU responsibility

Can Europe fix it's Cap & Trade system?

Cyprus deal hurts EU strategic interests


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Message 1353254 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 14:04:13 UTC

With apparently our border controls and immigration policies in disarray, a busted Europe won't be doing us any favours, that is for sure.

Der Spiegel has a distinctive reputation for revealing political misconduct and scandals. It merited recognition for this as early as 1950, when the federal parliament launched an inquiry into Spiegel's accusations that bribed members of parliament had promoted Bonn over Frankfurt as the seat of West Germany's government.

Sounds like their equivalent of the Waily Fail :-)

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Message 1353272 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 14:32:44 UTC - in response to Message 1353254.

Sounds like their equivalent of the Waily Fail :-)


So according to you, all media is not to be trusted? In which case, WHY do you continually post using them?

Boosting your post count by chance?
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Message 1353816 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 18:31:42 UTC

Here you go Merkel, an easy solution to the EU banking crisis......

French ex-budget minister admits to tax evasion

....rather than hit ordinary savers, why not hit all those evading tax with a 60% levy?
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Message 1353849 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 20:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 1353816.

Here you go Merkel, an easy solution to the EU banking crisis......

French ex-budget minister admits to tax evasion

....rather than hit ordinary savers, why not hit all those evading tax with a 60% levy?

Gawd almighty Sirius, do you really expect the Brussels brigade to vote away
60% of their hidden stashed-away cash. Thou must not drink the "Black Velvet"
on an empty stomach....got it, only during din-dins or just after...Hic!!!burp!!
scuse me???


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Message 1353855 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 20:37:52 UTC - in response to Message 1353849.

Here you go Merkel, an easy solution to the EU banking crisis......

French ex-budget minister admits to tax evasion

....rather than hit ordinary savers, why not hit all those evading tax with a 60% levy?

Gawd almighty Sirius, do you really expect the Brussels brigade to vote away
60% of their hidden stashed-away cash. Thou must not drink the "Black Velvet"
on an empty stomach....got it, only during din-dins or just after...Hic!!!burp!!
scuse me???



After 5 pints, I just wondered if that is the reason why the accounts have not been audited for 18 years...hic.....
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Message 1353856 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 20:40:45 UTC

After 5 pints, I just wondered if that is the reason why the accounts have not been audited for 18 years...hic.....

I'll hic!! to that too Sirius, your back on form again so have another "Velvet".

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Message 1353857 - Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 20:42:22 UTC

Auditing the EU accounts....
Now there's a strange concept - do you expect them to be a solid, truthful financial statement, or something to the contrary. Actually probably those accounts should be filed in the "fiction" section of the library, not too far from the British Rail timetable. (or at least would be if they were ever to be published)
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