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Message 1331420 - Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 4:39:40 UTC - in response to Message 1331372.  
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Note also that open peer review ensures state of the art practice for suitably patronized projects.

suitably patronized is what, 0.1% of FOSS projects?

There goes your mud slinging again.

You are right, after a quick check the real number is likely closer to 0.001%.

Perhaps you just aren't aware of how much FOSS is out there, most of it developed by a single programmer. That or you say FOSS but mean only the top 100 FOSS projects.
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Message 1331424 - Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 4:44:27 UTC

Play nice boys. There's plenty of software for everyone.
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Message 1331545 - Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 11:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 1331373.  

Wow!

Of all the widespread examples, and compared to the unmanageable blizzard of malware and exploits that Windows appears to suffer... You have just those *two* examples?...


Did you read those reports? Red October is a highly professional operation with the current thought that it has to be a "Nation State".

That proves that any O/S can be hacked & should Linux reach the pinnacle of No 1 O/S then we will definitely be seeing the equivalent breaches of security a la windoze!
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Message 1332548 - Posted: 29 Jan 2013, 20:32:32 UTC

Another "suitably patronized" FOSS project:
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/breakingnews/ci_22472695/researchers-warn-widespread-networking-gear-bugs
Researchers warn of widespread networking gear bugs
Bugs in widely used networking technology expose tens of millions of personal computers, printers and storage drives to attack by hackers over the regular Internet, researchers with a security software maker said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play
The UPnP Forum is a computer industry initiative to enable simple and robust connectivity to stand-alone devices and personal computers from many different vendors. The Forum consists of over eight hundred vendors involved in everything from consumer electronics to network computing.


800 vendor eyeballs should be enough. Is your FOSS showing?

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Message 1332600 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 0:21:32 UTC

British internet users' personal information on major 'cloud' storage services can be spied upon routinely by US authorities

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, known as FISA, allows US government agencies open access to any electronic information stored by non-American citizens by US-based companies. Quietly introduced during the dying days of President George W Bush’s administration in 2008, it was renewed over Christmas 2012.
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Message 1332601 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 0:32:30 UTC

Again, those of us that are able, should use our own cloud...
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Message 1332604 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 0:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 1332600.  

2 statements from that report are very worrying.....

"Sophie in ‘t Veld, a Dutch MEP, Speaking to The Independent, she said:“Let’s turn this around and imagine this is not the United States having unlimited access to our data but the government of Mr Putin or the Chinese government – would we still wonder if it’s an urgent issue? Nobody would ask that question.”

"Isabella Sankey, Director of Policy for Liberty, said: “US surveillance ambitions know no bounds. The chilling US Foreign Intelligence Service Act treats all non-US citizens as enemy suspects.”
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Message 1332607 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 0:47:32 UTC - in response to Message 1332604.  

2 statements from that report are very worrying.....

"Sophie in ‘t Veld, a Dutch MEP, Speaking to The Independent, she said:“Let’s turn this around and imagine this is not the United States having unlimited access to our data but the government of Mr Putin or the Chinese government – would we still wonder if it’s an urgent issue? Nobody would ask that question.”

"Isabella Sankey, Director of Policy for Liberty, said: “US surveillance ambitions know no bounds. The chilling US Foreign Intelligence Service Act treats all non-US citizens as enemy suspects.”

What's so worrying about the second quote?

I was always taught in military security the first people to be worried about are your "friends". Your "enemies" are usually obvious, but which of your "friends" is about to cause trouble.
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Message 1332631 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 2:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 1332604.  

2 statements from that report are very worrying.....

"Sophie in ‘t Veld, a Dutch MEP, Speaking to The Independent, she said:“Let’s turn this around and imagine this is not the United States having unlimited access to our data but the government of Mr Putin or the Chinese government – would we still wonder if it’s an urgent issue? Nobody would ask that question.”

"Isabella Sankey, Director of Policy for Liberty, said: “US surveillance ambitions know no bounds. The chilling US Foreign Intelligence Service Act treats all non-US citizens as enemy suspects.”

Only non-US citizens? I thought it was amended in secret to cover everyone on the planet.

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Message 1332638 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 3:17:15 UTC - in response to Message 1332631.  

So you'll have no cause for complaint when the Pentagon gets hacked again!
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Message 1332680 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 7:01:31 UTC - in response to Message 1332638.  

So you'll have no cause for complaint when the Pentagon gets hacked again!

You won't either. "Shall we play a game?"

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Message 1333525 - Posted: 1 Feb 2013, 14:30:14 UTC
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Can we really trust bankers and their banking, let alone their IT?...


Why banks are likely to face more software glitches in 2013

The money men appear to be accident prone.

Recent months have seen banks and other financial services hit by a variety of software faults. ...

... So what's going wrong?

The core of the problem is that the business software used by the institutions has become horrifically complex...

... There's a buzzword, coined by the American programmer Ward Cunningham, for the problems hidden in computer systems as a result of corners being cut : technical debt.

The idea is that IT bosses have allowed a certain amount of "unfixed" code to accumulate in order to roll-out new facilities on schedule. But as the debt has grown, so has the risk...

... The consequence may be that we have to be prepared for further software failures so long as the firms involved allow their technical debts to mount.




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Message 1333533 - Posted: 1 Feb 2013, 14:53:18 UTC - in response to Message 1333525.  

Can we really trust bankers and their banking, let alone their IT?...


Why banks are likely to face more software glitches in 2013

The money men appear to be accident prone.

Recent months have seen banks and other financial services hit by a variety of software faults. ...

... So what's going wrong?

The core of the problem is that the business software used by the institutions has become horrifically complex...

... There's a buzzword, coined by the American programmer Ward Cunningham, for the problems hidden in computer systems as a result of corners being cut : technical debt.

The idea is that IT bosses have allowed a certain amount of "unfixed" code to accumulate in order to roll-out new facilities on schedule. But as the debt has grown, so has the risk...

... The consequence may be that we have to be prepared for further software failures so long as the firms involved allow their technical debts to mount.




IT is what we make it...
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Ah, same thing happens when the city paves the new sub-division but can't fix the potholes downtown. Looks like you are describing humans again.

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Message 1333612 - Posted: 1 Feb 2013, 18:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 1333533.  

the real question is can we trust the people that are supposed to know things to actually know them.

My Boss doesn't know the difference between an OS and an LIS. This is no lie. I told her that the IT guys were updating Computers from dual core intels to quad core i5's. I was informed that the PC updates were intended so that we could migrate to Windows 7.
I notified my boss of this and she exclaimed, "they can't upgrade to Windows 7 we need Windows 9 for the LIS to work properly."

I let it go. the WTF look and head shaking didn't phase her a bit. the next LIS upgrade we can do is 9.0 I needed an LIS question answered and decided to confirm what I already knew. can our current LIS work on Windows 7. Certainly without a problem. I get tired of nitwits thinking they sound important by rattling of names and numbers of OSes or programs and have little idea what they are talking about. So far, in the last year, she has made massive inroads into why computer illiterate people shouldn't play with Programs others need to use for their work


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Message 1333767 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 2:24:59 UTC - in response to Message 1333612.  

I get tired of nitwits thinking they sound important by rattling of names and numbers of OSes or programs and have little idea what they are talking about.

I can relate. Just tossing words/names out to make people think they are a big shot. The hard part is to keep a straight face.

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Message 1333818 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 4:49:46 UTC

All those fancy interwebs.
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Message 1334032 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 18:22:01 UTC

All those Twits?...


Twitter: Account hack affects 250,000 users

... Twitter's information security director Bob Lord said about 250,000 users' passwords had been stolen, as well as usernames, emails and other data. ...


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Message 1334045 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 19:08:23 UTC

Can we 'trust' IT Marketing 'tricks'?...

Here's just two examples:


Netbooks were a GOOD thing and we threw them under a bus

... Differing goals

Google could make Android a serious contender as a "good enough" netbook OS in a very short timeframe. The web giant won't because it views Android as its touch-based consumptive tablet and phone OS, and ChromeOS as the desktop replacement. ChromeOS is entirely reliant on internet connectivity and keeps you trapped into doing everything using SaaS apps; great for Google because it can ruthlessly invade your privacy in order to sell more advertisements. Bad for us because it cripples the OS in order to achieve this goal.

Microsoft, similarly, has little interest in meeting the needs of people using computers on the go. Instead, we get this enormous bloated operating system that takes up way too much space and costs too much power. (Let's all have a nice long conversation about WinSXS and free space on your Surface tablets over time, shall we?) Microsoft's OS licensing is byzantine – in the case of VDI it is outright insulting – and the uncrippled versions only run on Intel's "not-quite-all-day" chips. That's without getting into the ridiculous farce that is the Metro user interface. ...



Part of one good comment from the comments:

... Problem in a nutshell. Netbooks were too good; they cannibalised laptops. So the industry decided collectively to sell expensive ultrabooks, and tablets that are not actually good enough for any daily work. Problem solved.




Chinese web company faked Microsoft patch to force download

... warning for unfair competition, alleging the firm used its security software to trick users into downloading its browser. ...



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Message 1334060 - Posted: 2 Feb 2013, 20:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 1334032.  

All those Twits?...


Twitter: Account hack affects 250,000 users

... Twitter's information security director Bob Lord said about 250,000 users' passwords had been stolen, as well as usernames, emails and other data. ...


IT is what we make it...
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Isn't twitter running linux?

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