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Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
Try setting the app's Priority to Normal, or Above Normal, at present it is set to Below Normal: <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> Claggy |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Ah, thanks. That sounds like exactly what I will need for my new GT 630, once the CPU finishes the work and I let the machine get new work again. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Manuel Palacios Send message Joined: 2 Nov 99 Posts: 74 Credit: 30,209,980 RAC: 56 |
Here I have an example of an app_info for an AMD machine with the lunatics cpu app and x41zc (cuda5) for those interested in verifying their own app_info: <app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>astropulse_v6</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>astropulse_v505</name> </app> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <cmdline>-v505</cmdline> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <cmdline>-v505</cmdline> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cudart32_50_35.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cufft32_50_35.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>609</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>608</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>609</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>608</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info> I don't know how to make a nice little link, so, sorry for the length ;) |
Maximus13 Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 1,729,694 RAC: 0 |
Thanks for the explanations on the average and max cpu settings. I changed them in my app_info, but they do not seem to really make a difference. Of course, I always have 2 GPU tasks running, which is what I have my setup to run, so maybe that is why. Also, I am not a xml expert, but don't you just use the <app_version> section you are using in your xml file? I see many examples with multiple entry's, which I had assumed were examples and I just pared mine down to one, which seems to be running fine. I pasted it below for example: <app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cudart32_50_35.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cufft32_50_35.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>mbcuda.cfg</name> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.200000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.200000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_50_35.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>mbcuda.cfg</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info> |
Horacio Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 536 Credit: 75,967,266 RAC: 0 |
The xml format used at BOINC and SETI is not standard and in fact if you edit those files with an XML editor probably the result file wont be usable as it will be reformated... You need one app_version section for each version of the apps you run, the app_info you posted is running only the MB app for cuda so only one app_version section... If you were using other apps (MB for CPU, AP for CPU or GPU, you will need to add other app_version sections (along with other file references and other sections) |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
...Also, I am not a xml expert, but don't you just use the <app_version> section you are using in your xml file? For total manual install that's correct, and the way I run personally. When you do either automated or semi automated installer based distribution, basically you find out the hard way that anything short of covering every version & platform results in *someone* losing tasks, mostly due to subtle changes in the way people customised their installations in the past. so the supplied 'aistubs' use that non-minimalist approach. Jason "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Paul D Harris Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 1122 Credit: 33,600,005 RAC: 0 |
The xml format used at BOINC and SETI is not standard and in fact if you edit those files with an XML editor probably the result file wont be usable as it will be reformated... I use xml marker with no problems also xml notepad. |
Maximus13 Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 5 Credit: 1,729,694 RAC: 0 |
Alright, thanks for the info. Currently, I just want to run the GPU app so I think it is good for my current needs. I don't use anything to edit the xml except good ol' Windows notepad. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Alright, thanks for the info. Currently, I just want to run the GPU app so I think it is good for my current needs. That is the generally recommended way to do it. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 159 Credit: 130,116,228 RAC: 0 |
I've searched both the seti/boinc sites and lunatics and haven't so far found a copy of cuda x-41g. I've also not been able to find jason's x-41zc. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm using xp64 in most machines and xp 386 on 1 Processors in use are i7 960, core 2 quad and lga775 p4 ht Fermi gtx 470s, a gtx 560, 1 gt9800 and 1 tesla c1060 Thanks! Delta-V |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65768 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
From what little I've read You won't find x41g online, and I've looked, all cause of a licensing problem. Now if one is using a 64 bit Windows OS, Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe would work, but it's not available, the only files available don't have any installer and are here, some are 32bit and some are 64bit, the files do have a stub file that can be renamed to app_info.xml from MBCuda.aistub, but You'll have to be aware as to what's there and what's not. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
I've searched both the seti/boinc sites and lunatics and haven't so far found a copy of cuda x-41g. I've also not been able to find jason's x-41zc. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Use Google, when i tried x-41zc it was the 2nd link, and when i tried it as the proper x41zc it was the 5th link, and Jason's already posted the link earlier in this thread. Claggy |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65768 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I've searched both the seti/boinc sites and lunatics and haven't so far found a copy of cuda x-41g. I've also not been able to find jason's x-41zc. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Google didn't find the lunatics installer anywhere, oh sure text references, but none of them are download links. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
I've searched both the seti/boinc sites and lunatics and haven't so far found a copy of cuda x-41g. I've also not been able to find jason's x-41zc. Can anyone point me in the right direction? You can't get the Lunatics installer, the Cuda apps aren't affected by the licencing concerns, so you can get those, Claggy |
Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 159 Credit: 130,116,228 RAC: 0 |
From what little I've read You won't find x41g online, and I've looked, all cause of a licensing problem. Now if one is using a 64 bit Windows OS, Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe would work, but it's not available, the only files available don't have any installer and are here, some are 32bit and some are 64bit, the files do have a stub file that can be renamed to app_info.xml from MBCuda.aistub, but You'll have to be aware as to what's there and what's not. I"m currently running Lunatics_Win64_v0.40. I downloaded from Crunchers Anonymous x41zc_Winx64_cuda32, x41zc_Winx64_cuda42 and x41zc_Winx64_cuda50. It looks like I'll need to use the x41zc_Winx64_cuda42. Do I rename mbcuda.aistub to app_info.xml & drop all files in the project directory? Also I am running the seti 6.10.60 client on all computers. Hope there is no conflict there. Delta-V |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65768 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
From what little I've read You won't find x41g online, and I've looked, all cause of a licensing problem. Now if one is using a 64 bit Windows OS, Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe would work, but it's not available, the only files available don't have any installer and are here, some are 32bit and some are 64bit, the files do have a stub file that can be renamed to app_info.xml from MBCuda.aistub, but You'll have to be aware as to what's there and what's not. You can do that, but before You do that, how many wu's do You plan on running? Since you'd need to modify the following in that stub file, if You want to run more than 1 wu per gpu: <count>1.0</count> to <count>0.5</count> The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 159 Credit: 130,116,228 RAC: 0 |
From what little I've read You won't find x41g online, and I've looked, all cause of a licensing problem. Now if one is using a 64 bit Windows OS, Lunatics_Win64_v0.40_setup.exe would work, but it's not available, the only files available don't have any installer and are here, some are 32bit and some are 64bit, the files do have a stub file that can be renamed to app_info.xml from MBCuda.aistub, but You'll have to be aware as to what's there and what's not. I'm currently running 1 work unit per GPU. I've tried 2 in the past after trying the SetiPerformance64.exe which suggested the gtx 560 & 560Ti could do it. After a couple of weeks I saw no performance gain and went back to 1 wu/gpu The gtx 470s and the tesla were not rated as practical for 2 or more/gpu. I'll have to look over the old xml anyway as there may be other changes. Thanks a lot for the help! Delta-V |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I've tried 2 in the past after trying the SetiPerformance64.exe which suggested the gtx 560 & 560Ti could do it. After a couple of weeks I saw no performance gain and went back to 1 wu/gpu That's probably due to the lack of available work & outages. I have a GTX 560Ti & a GTX 460. Running 3 at time does more WUs per hour than running 2 at a time, although not a lot more. Running 2 at a time though does significantly more WUs per hour than just running one. Grant Darwin NT |
Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 159 Credit: 130,116,228 RAC: 0 |
I've tried 2 in the past after trying the SetiPerformance64.exe which suggested the gtx 560 & 560Ti could do it. After a couple of weeks I saw no performance gain and went back to 1 wu/gpu According to the boinc statistics graph mine were steadily losing ground crunching 2/gpu. The plain 560 died recently so the only one capable of running more/gpu is an asus 560Ti on which I have to downclock the memory a little to keep things stable. I replaced the dead 560 with a 470. Delta-V |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
According to the boinc statistics graph mine were steadily losing ground crunching 2/gpu. When did you start crunching 2 at a time? End of October my RAC went in to a freefall due to the lack of work. Dec 26 it hit it's highest point since the end of October (but still less than what it was). Since Dec 26 it's dropped like a stone again, once again due to the lack of work. It's just the last 3 or 4 days it's started climbing again, but it has a long way to go to get to the pre October levels. A very long way. Grant Darwin NT |
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