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Message 1305451 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:37:57 UTC

Serious & valid posts only.
No flaming,baiting,insults etc.

The posters on these forums are a variety of nationalites & with each of those nationalities having their own sense of conduct as to which is acceptable & which is not, can( & more often than not) cause some dissention.

Rather than see this continue, it would be nice to see a defined list on the rules page or in the 2 stickies regarding forum moderation. As they stand, I cannot see, with the obvious exceptions, as to what constitutes swearing.

With such a defined list, I feel that it would benefit both the moderators & posters in that we, the posters know exactly where the limits lie & if crossed, cannot fault moderators for their subsequent actions.

Moderators, at the 1st sign of any dissent, please lock & hide the thread.

I hope that everyone posts a sensible comment.
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Message 1305455 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:49:43 UTC

Moderators, at the 1st sign of any dissent, please lock & hide the thread.


With pleasure ;-)
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Message 1305459 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:52:55 UTC

Just a few of the headlines, in no particular order:

No swearing
No incitement to commit criminal acts
No flaming, or incitement to flame
No commercial posts
Try to keep to the topic

There are a few more, but that should get you guys started.


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Message 1305461 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 18:55:02 UTC - in response to Message 1305459.

I think those are pretty much standard, so to speak.

What I would like to know is why is d**n swearing while b***h is not?
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Message 1305468 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 1305455.
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Moderators, at the 1st sign of any dissent, please lock & hide the thread.


With pleasure ;-)


That in a nutshell is the problem.

THERE IS NOT TWO SETS OF RULES! 'On topic' is one of them that YOU ALLOW!

Many people here cuss and I have seen it a lot.

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Message 1305470 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:03:53 UTC - in response to Message 1305451.
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Serious & valid posts only.
No flaming,baiting,insults etc.

The posters on these forums are a variety of nationalites & with each of those nationalities having their own sense of conduct as to which is acceptable & which is not, can( & more often than not) cause some dissention.

Rather than see this continue, it would be nice to see a defined list on the rules page or in the 2 stickies regarding forum moderation. As they stand, I cannot see, with the obvious exceptions, as to what constitutes swearing.

With such a defined list, I feel that it would benefit both the moderators & posters in that we, the posters know exactly where the limits lie & if crossed, cannot fault moderators for their subsequent actions.

Moderators, at the 1st sign of any dissent, please lock & hide the thread.

I hope that everyone posts a sensible comment.


Thank you for bringing this up.

Had it been me Id be on forced vacation again.....

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Message 1305472 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 1305470.
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Serious & valid posts only.
No flaming,baiting,insults etc.

The posters on these forums are a variety of nationalites & with each of those nationalities having their own sense of conduct as to which is acceptable & which is not, can( & more often than not) cause some dissention.

Rather than see this continue, it would be nice to see a defined list on the rules page or in the 2 stickies regarding forum moderation. As they stand, I cannot see, with the obvious exceptions, as to what constitutes swearing.

With such a defined list, I feel that it would benefit both the moderators & posters in that we, the posters know exactly where the limits lie & if crossed, cannot fault moderators for their subsequent actions.

Moderators, at the 1st sign of any dissent, please lock & hide the thread.

I hope that everyone posts a sensible comment.


Thank you for bringing this up.

Had it been me Id be on forced vacation again.....




Thank you for standing up for what is right...

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Message 1305475 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:05:17 UTC - in response to Message 1305468.

I.D. The topic of this thread is the definition of swearing. please post your comments on that. Thank you.

This really does need clarifying & I don't want to see this thread locked un-necessary.
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Message 1305483 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:13:08 UTC - in response to Message 1305475.

I.D. The topic of this thread is the definition of swearing. please post your comments on that. Thank you.

This really does need clarifying & I don't want to see this thread locked un-necessary.


No, no it doesn't...I fixed it. I ask your pardon.

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Message 1305494 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:26:57 UTC
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Message 1305498 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:28:49 UTC

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Message 1305509 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:50:41 UTC - in response to Message 1305500.

Sorry Mark, can't see that working, as without a doubt, any antagnosim will eventually creep into the main forum.
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Message 1305517 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 20:09:39 UTC

I have suggested before that this politics forum only be accessed by a password. It appears that is not what the admins here want, so fair enough.

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Message 1305519 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 20:16:38 UTC

I hope that I can clear up some of the confusion in regards to swearing or cussing on the forums.

Since SETI@Home is hosted on servers located in Berkeley, California, U.S.A., we tend to lean toward American English uses of cussing or swearing. Generally, we allow for PG-13 rated posts, which means words such as shit, damn, hell and ass are allowable. Anything harsher will require moderating.

We do ask that you keep the cussing appropriate, to a minimum, and non-derogatory. For example, while shit and ass are allowed, we cannot have people saying, "You are a stupid piece of shit!" or "You're an ass!"

Also, since most of our Moderators speak English with a few exceptions, if there is swearing in another language that we are not aware of, I'd ask that a native speaker use the Red X to bring it to the Mod's attention so we can at least verify using a machine translator and react accordingly.

For reasons that should be obvious, SETI@Home does not have the resources to setup, manage through secure access and proper age verification, nor the interest in setting up a private sub-forum for the explicit purpose of being able to use adult language unfettered. If you simply cannot control the use of your own words, I recommend you visit any of the other various forums that do allow such language on the internet.

Of course, we reserve the right to review any post individually to decide if the intent merits moderation. This isn't to give the appearance of an autocracy, but to give us enough leeway to maneuver through sticky posts of questionable nature that may warrant hiding despite not being explicitly against any hard rule.

The bottom line here is that we're all adults. Let's use our best judgment when posting, and try to show our complexity through mastery of our native language. I think you'll find that if you do that, you won't have a need to use cussing or swearing to get your point across.

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Message 1305522 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 20:19:29 UTC - in response to Message 1305519.
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Many thanks for the clarification. Your post has answered the questions raised. Please lock the thread(& hopefully, not hide it, as it can serve as a reminder).

Again, thank you.

Regards

SB

Edit: - or even better...add your post to the politics moderation sticky.
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Message 1305525 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 20:21:16 UTC

Thanks Fred, I think that sums it up pretty neatly.

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