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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Italian experts convicted of manslaughter over deadly 2009 quake
One has to wonder why the Judiciary in Italy thinks that scientists are magicians or palm readers. Perhaps we should convict meteorologists for missing the exact temperature each day as well.[/url] In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Perhaps we should convict meteorologists for missing the exact temperature each day as well. Add the global warming catastrophe crew to the list and it sounds like a plan. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The Italians have a long tradition of persecuting scientists, probably predating Galileo. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
So... living in Italy and in a known earthquake zone would cause one to think, "hmmm... with all this modern technology maybe I should somehow earthquake proof my home....Naahhhh why bother Earthquakes only happen once in a while and only last a few seconds." Much like the story of fixing a leaky roof that only leaks on rainy days. It's not a problem until its a problem. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I think they should now prosecute & jail Berlusconi |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I would of thought such a thing could only happen in the US... I say we vote to banish the phrase "just sayin'" from these fora. Also, henceforth, "my bad" shall return to "my faux pas" so we can sound classy again, |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
still why would anyone want to have a position that attempts to negate damage and prevent harm to others be tried and even convicted on a flimsy premise. I'll ask again. Isn't the persons responsibility to make ones own home safe. To make it as earthquake proof as possible. What happened to personal responsibility In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
No Dave, in the US they would not have been convicted for not predicting an earthquake, they'd have been convicted for being scientists. The time has come for us to elect more Luddites. I would of thought such a thing could only happen in the US... |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
still why would anyone want to have a position that attempts to negate damage and prevent harm to others be tried and even convicted on a flimsy premise. I think we have a case of reverse-Romneyism? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19063 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Italy disaster head Luciano Maiani quits over L'Aquila The head of Italy's disaster body, Luciano Maiani, has resigned in protest at prison sentences passed on seven colleagues over the 2009 earthquake in L'Aquila. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
"While the seven men involved are appealing against their convictions - and remain free while they do so - all are facing the prospect of being barred from ever holding public office again." So if they lose their appeals & end up serving their sentence, it'll set a precedent for which civil servants & politicians should be very wary of! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Unbelievable scapegoating... Is there some corruption behind such a crazy conviction?... Then again, certain parts of various industries and politics deliberately ignore science when inconvenient for their short term profits... Meanwhile, the rest of the world be damned... All on our only world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Unbelievable scapegoating... Is there some corruption behind such a crazy conviction?... The Italian legal system seems to be corrupt, look at the Amanda Knox murder case. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I dont recall a seismologist ever saying that they can predict, with any precision, an earthquake. They do know how frequent certain faults move and can say with a certain about of accuracy(within years or decades) a quake may occur. On this same line of thought. What about the Indonesian quake that took out 250k people? In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2430 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0 |
Earthquakes is one of several natural events which is being subject to scientific scrutiny which generally are not predictable in advance. One of the reasons for this being such may be as follows. Science are dealing with two main fields where the specific subject areas withing each such field either are exact sciences, or inexact sciences. The reason for possible inexactness may be because of either lack of relevant numbers, or the opposite, namely too many numbers (or factors) to deal with. Mathematics is assumed to be an exact science. But 0.3333... + 0.3333... + 0.3333 is supposed to not be 1 (or 1.000....). Here floating point calculations or operations are needed. When dealing with millions of such numbers (operations or instructions when it comes to computerized processing), such inexactness ultimately becomes visible when such calculations are being performed. In the end you are getting a wrong result or a result which is deemed undesirable or incorrect. |
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