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Message 1346851 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 14:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 1346797.


So you suggesting that the CPS should only hire non corruptible super people. Sorry they don't exist everyone has a price and in my experience a LOT of people are on the take, comes with being human.


So, did you ignore them, join them or fight them?
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Message 1347060 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 21:54:37 UTC

The turnabout Ca moron does it again.....

Del-boy retreats

Must be nice to sit around a table & chaw with no work actually getting done, & getting paid for it!
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Message 1347072 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 22:16:28 UTC - in response to Message 1346851.


So you suggesting that the CPS should only hire non corruptible super people. Sorry they don't exist everyone has a price and in my experience a LOT of people are on the take, comes with being human.


So, did you ignore them, join them or fight them?

I actually didn't realise, I am fairly trusting, hopefully honest person so had no idea what was going on until the people concerned had either "got away with it" or were suddenly "suspended". I was friends with some and had I known I would have acted but they made sure the few honest people had no idea what was going on.




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Message 1347075 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 22:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1347072.

Unfortunately, that's the main problem in today's society.

From top to bottom, a decent person won't know who to trust!
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Message 1347107 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 23:18:06 UTC - in response to Message 1347075.

Unfortunately, that's the main problem in today's society.

From top to bottom, a decent person won't know who to trust!

Actually quite simple, I have a very very small circle of friends I trust. For everyone else, I assume they are on the take, less surprises that way.
I EXPECT most people in power to be corrupt (probably how they got there) and most "workers" are after everything they can get.

The news doesn't give me any reason to think otherwise, as you are kind enough to point out on a daily basis.
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Message 1347111 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 23:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 1347107.

Sorry Bernie, it really is not that intentional. I was like yourself, boy was I woken up & at each passing year, only see it get worse....makes me wonder why I bother voting sometimes!
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Message 1347321 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 14:40:05 UTC
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Hey Del-boy, you really do need to be careful what you say..the Internet is a brilliant little tool.....

We are here to fight

Some pointers Dave....

1: The battle of Britian ended September 15th 1940
2: If you really do love your country...give us the referendum on the EU now!
3: "He said he was following the same Tory values of past prime ministers, such as Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill." Really Del-boy? Can you explain this then: -


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Message 1347332 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 15:52:59 UTC

In terms of the Battle OF Britain, meaning Spitfires and Hurricanes against the Luftwaffe, the 15 September 1940 was correctly a turning point. In terms of the battle FOR Britain that continued on, that in many ways was more physically damaging to the British people.

The Battle still continued. British towns and cities were attacked day and night, and increasingly German fighter-bombers were sent on hit and run raids across the Channel. On 30 September the Luftwaffe launched their last major daylight raid, and from 1 October the fourth phase of the Battle began: the Germans resorted to fighter bomber attacks by day and a ferocious Blitz on British cities by its bomber forces at night. The night area bombing of London and other towns and cities by the Luftwaffe would continue until May 1941.

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Cameron actually said

"This is a battle for Britain's future we are engaged in," he said.

the Internet is a brilliant little tool.....

Yes it is, you should learn to use it more productively. OK, I'll take pity on you, and give you this little gem. Enjoy!

When I hear the sound of George Osborne, I reach for my revolver.

From David Cameron. For such an anti government activist, you missed that one. And yes he IS a pretty useless Chancellor .....

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Message 1347333 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 15:55:31 UTC - in response to Message 1347332.

Sucking eggs comes to mind...now who's banging on about the 1930's....

I didn't miss it....thought I'd leave it to you to gloat that I missed it.

Care to comment on his "Syria" turnabout?
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Message 1347343 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 16:25:11 UTC

Sucking eggs comes to mind...now who's banging on about the 1930's....

Seems to me that we were discussing the 1940's with the Battle of Britain.

I didn't miss it....thought I'd leave it to you to gloat that I missed it.

If I may I'll remind you of two of your recent comments.

You cheeky git... :)
Pull the other one it's got bells on!

Rubbish, talk about Irish blarney ....

Care to comment on his "Syria" turnabout?

I'll go away and look at it and get back to you.

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Message 1347344 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 16:31:30 UTC - in response to Message 1347343.

Sucking eggs comes to mind...now who's banging on about the 1930's....

Seems to me that we were discussing the 1940's with the Battle of Britain.

I didn't miss it....thought I'd leave it to you to gloat that I missed it.

If I may I'll remind you of two of your recent comments.

You cheeky git... :)
Pull the other one it's got bells on!

Rubbish, talk about Irish blarney ....

Care to comment on his "Syria" turnabout?

I'll go away and look at it and get back to you.




good, you do that...
...pray tell what decade was WWII in? 1914 prehaps?
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Message 1347934 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 0:57:00 UTC - in response to Message 1346687.

Oh dear, are the coffers getting that empty Del-boy?

You wanna recoup some of your losses via the telephone?

Well..... 0845 900 0444 will do it for you


Looks like they've been listening.......

0845 numbers to be 0345

Still say centralisation will continue to cause major problems.....

...having local offices in each city were/is more beneficial!
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Message 1348035 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 10:59:46 UTC

Care to comment on his "Syria" turnabout?

I'll go away and look at it and get back to you.

good, you do that...

I assume that you are referring to this? Telegraph

His stance appears to be along these lines.

Mr Cameron's proposal is an attempt to bypass both the stalemate in Qatar and the stalemate in Syria itself. "Let's be frank, what we've done over the last 18 months hasn't been enough," he said on Thursday, reiterating his determination that Mr Assad be forced from office. It involves directing the Foreign Office to deal directly with those wielding influence through the power of the gun. If the embargo were altered, it would allow Britain to act as a "quartermaster" directing the flow of arms, one official said last week.

The idea is likely to meet resistance from America.

The US Ambassador to Syria, Robert Ford, clearly stated privately and publicly there had been no change in its decision not to provide heavy weaponry. "The Americans are holding back – they are at the water's edge, but they are not yet ready to swim," said an informed source. A western diplomat said: "The US is definitely the most cautious of everyone. If the US gave word the EU countries have expressed a readiness to act."

The difficulty is that the longer the West's intervention is delayed, the worse rebel divisions and atrocities become, making it ever more difficult to present a case for action to wary public opinion. Yet at the same time, the danger of more bloodshed and more chaos spreading through the region also increases.
"Obama has been trying to avoid a complete breakdown, but frankly that is now what we are heading towards," said one analyst, Salman Sheikh, of the Brookings Institute. "The British want to go further. They understand that they can no longer do nothing and that Syria will only be more gripped by chaos through inaction."

Eighteen months ago, Mr Cameron and President Nicolas Sarkozy of France bounced a nervous Barack Obama into action in Libya. Whether Mr Cameron will succeed a second time is another matter.

It just seems to me that not only is the USA seeing itself as the worlds policeman against International terrorism, the major Western leaders have also vowed to clean up the Middle East. Hussein, Gaddaffi, now Assad. Who is next? We all want peace in the world but at what cost?

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Message 1348038 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 11:10:20 UTC - in response to Message 1348035.

We all want peace in the world but at what cost?


That would be nice & I personally have nothing against any politician with that in mind.

My problem is with hypocritical leaders! Cutting our defence forces to the bare bone & still expect them to be able to cover any combat zone due to the whims/errors of politicians?
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Message 1348045 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 12:32:32 UTC

Cutting our defence forces to the bare bone & still expect them to be able to cover any combat zone due to the whims/errors of politicians?

That is not entirely fair. Whilst I have been a fierce critic of the decision to scrap the Ark Royal and the Harriers as just nonsensical, I have to accept two things. Firstly after 13 years of Labour, UK Plc is skint. We can't afford to keep up the three armed services as in the past, the money simply isn't there. Secondly wars in the future will not be one country directly against another as in the Falklands in 1982, they will be fought as a coalition of countries against a common foe, as we saw in Iraq, and are seeing now in the Med. We do not need our own independent deterrent force any more in the 21C. OK we have at any one time a Nuclear sub in the South Atlantic keeping a close eye on the Argies, but that is a minor irritation.

Whatever you might think, and I'm sure that you do, Governments do NOT go to war on a whim, and hardly almost never on errors. It is a simple fact that all major countries in the world, Excepting some Eastern ones maybe, have a 24/7 hot line between all the leaders. Every country's diplomats are constantly in 24/7 dialogue with everyone else. Cameron can pick up a phone at any time of night and day and anywhere, and within minutes, can speak head to head with Obama, Putin, etc, and vice versa.


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Message 1348064 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:27:48 UTC - in response to Message 1348045.

Really? Then explain why Del-boy wants to go against EU sanctions!

Based on your post, we're skint!
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Message 1348069 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:52:40 UTC

Based on your post, we're skint!

We were 2 years ago!

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, left a note for his successor David Laws, which said "there's no money left".


And bearing in mind the general world recession and the double dip one in the UK, we still basically are, although it is getting better. The UK's current stance towards Europe is on a number of fronts, some public in the media, others behind the scenes. As popular parlance has it

You have to be in it to win it.
You can't throw stones at houses you don't live in.

The day we don't need it, we will ditch it like a ton of hot bricks. Germany and France know that, are sh*t scared of the UK leaving Europe, and well they should be.

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Message 1348075 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 14:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 1348069.


The day we don't need it, we will ditch it like a ton of hot bricks. Germany and France know that, are sh*t scared of the UK leaving Europe, and well they should be.



That day passed us by.. I believe it was sometime in September 2008!

& the precedent being set? So it's ok for me to be present on the next strategic defence review?
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Message 1348088 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 14:28:43 UTC
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So it's ok for me to be present on the next strategic defence review?

Well to paraphrase a usual army saying, "You might well be present, but you wouldn't be correct!"

A fly on the wall reports .....

'ello Mr Muppet, enjoying your snout in the trough then?

Good morning Sirius, welcome to Cobra, this is the Chief of the Defence Staff, and these are the First Sea Lord, the Chief of the General Staff, and the Chief of the Air Staff.

Now to business gentlemen. Should we invade North Korea, Iran, or supply arms to Syria? Would you care to comment Sirius?

Never mind about all that stuff, I wanna know what you are doing about the price of Guinness in my local pub. Have you seen what it costs? My Mail is now 60p, that is outrageous!

Gentlemen, I suggest we adjourn to Cobrb.

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Message 1348097 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 15:08:42 UTC - in response to Message 1348088.

Cherry picking the questions to answer, settled in nicely I see.

Supping well from the trough then....nothing new from those in politics today!
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