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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34711 Credit: 354,607,717 RAC: 377,121	Message 1295644 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 16:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 1295642.
	Batten the hatches folks. Smooth sailing is over. AP's are being split again. Expect lots of complaints about slow downloads, no new tasks, can't report, slow uploads, no more coffee, bad times in general. :-) What's odd is that the Cricket graph has not maxxed back out yet. Normally see that as soon as AP cranks back up. Maybe things were going good enough over the weekend that many MB caches are full. I know the kitties got about everything they needed. I guess there are lots of AP only machines, which has been asking for AP's for days, and Boinc has gone into long pending/deferred hours. They'll come back asking for AP's, and when they do, all h* will break loose. Dunno...if few were asking for AP work, I would expect the server status page to show some AP ready to send being built up and I don't see that happening yet either. ____________ **** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1295644 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2762 Credit: 8,380,184 RAC: 25,728	Message 1295646 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 16:51:52 UTC - in response to Message 1295644. Last modified: 15 Oct 2012, 16:52:50 UTC
	Batten the hatches folks. Smooth sailing is over. AP's are being split again. Expect lots of complaints about slow downloads, no new tasks, can't report, slow uploads, no more coffee, bad times in general. :-) What's odd is that the Cricket graph has not maxxed back out yet. Normally see that as soon as AP cranks back up. Maybe things were going good enough over the weekend that many MB caches are full. I know the kitties got about everything they needed. I guess there are lots of AP only machines, which has been asking for AP's for days, and Boinc has gone into long pending/deferred hours. They'll come back asking for AP's, and when they do, all h* will break loose. Dunno...if few were asking for AP work, I would expect the server status page to show some AP ready to send being built up and I don't see that happening yet either. Hmm, AP's disappeared from splitting again. Better just wait and see what happens. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"**
	ID: 1295646 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34711 Credit: 354,607,717 RAC: 377,121	Message 1295649 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 16:54:38 UTC - in response to Message 1295646.
	Batten the hatches folks. Smooth sailing is over. AP's are being split again. Expect lots of complaints about slow downloads, no new tasks, can't report, slow uploads, no more coffee, bad times in general. :-) What's odd is that the Cricket graph has not maxxed back out yet. Normally see that as soon as AP cranks back up. Maybe things were going good enough over the weekend that many MB caches are full. I know the kitties got about everything they needed. I guess there are lots of AP only machines, which has been asking for AP's for days, and Boinc has gone into long pending/deferred hours. They'll come back asking for AP's, and when they do, all h* will break loose. Dunno...if few were asking for AP work, I would expect the server status page to show some AP ready to send being built up and I don't see that happening yet either. Hmm, AP's disappeared from splitting again. Better just wait and see what happens. Something odd there. Usually AP datasets take a long time to split and send. I suspect little AP work was generated from these few. ____________ **** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1295649 ·

ivan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Mar 01 Posts: 418 Credit: 95,340,743 RAC: 61,158	Message 1295675 - Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 17:34:09 UTC - in response to Message 1295556.
	I reckon if anyone doesn't have enough work then the problem is on their end. Cheers. Wish I could work out what -- I'm only getting two tasks/request on my fastest machine and not much more on the others, in general. Gah! Finally realised that my disk usage was 1.5 GB, hitting the limit; upped it to 10 GB and jobs started flowing... Turns out that when I was playing with BOINC versions in August I'd screwed up and "lost" 3000 WUs, which were reported as errors but not deleted from my project area! ____________
	ID: 1295675 ·

clive G1FYE Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 4 Nov 04 Posts: 1284 Credit: 15,180,896 RAC: 14,841	Message 1296340 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 21:16:17 UTC
	I just spotted that all the multibeam splitter`s are disabled and RTS iz kinda low PANIC
	ID: 1296340 ·

[seti.international] Philip J. Fry Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 6632 Credit: 51,234,890 RAC: 17,025	Message 1296351 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 21:29:41 UTC Last modified: 17 Oct 2012, 21:30:19 UTC
	Still ~ 19,000 MB WUs available for D/L .. ;-) * Best regards! :-) * Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. * ____________ >Das Deutsche Cafe. The German Cafe.<
	ID: 1296351 ·

Phil Send message Joined: 12 Mar 04 Posts: 14 Credit: 4,823,196 RAC: 1,387	Message 1296360 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 22:06:40 UTC
	Zero WU RTS
	ID: 1296360 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7669 Credit: 40,240,285 RAC: 21,527	Message 1296371 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 22:39:03 UTC
	Eric was dealing with the problem that led to new WU numbering scheme It was a compiler bug, messing up the splitter code.
	ID: 1296371 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2762 Credit: 8,380,184 RAC: 25,728	Message 1296381 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 23:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 1296371.
	Eric was dealing with the problem that led to new WU numbering scheme It was a compiler bug, messing up the splitter code. Does that mean that we have to redo 2 weeks of WU's? If that's the case I'll consider the first run to be just a test run. Either that, or I'll have to start crying :-) ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
	ID: 1296381 ·

Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 2086 Credit: 6,836,649 RAC: 4,091	Message 1296423 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 0:48:54 UTC
	Not complaining nor panic.. but my RAC has dropped in half due to no APs. Might be a good thing though. I knew when I stole my PSU from another machine that the squealing/chirping that was intermittently coming from the capacitors meant that it wouldn't have too terribly long to live. It is still alive, but my board has been beeping some error alert for 30 seconds every 6-8 hours and I'm not sure why, but it probably has something to do with some voltage being below a threshold. ____________ Linux laptop uptime: 1484d 22h 42m Ended due to UPS failure, found 14 hours after the fact
	ID: 1296423 ·

Cherokee150 Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 101 Credit: 12,935,739 RAC: 19,500	Message 1296448 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 3:15:07 UTC - in response to Message 1296371.
	Excerpts from another thread: ...I noticed a number of new units I am receiving have unusually long names, as in: 21ap11af.25749.2934.140733193388044.10.40_2 versus a more typical: 09au12ag.28990.14407.13.10.216_0 Alternatively, does anyone know what that new 15 digit number in the fourth position means? ...I hope we get an official explanation soon, and I hope these "longnames" aren't wreaking havoc with the SETI database. ...I was also thinking along the line of, if these names are in error, as was suggested in the thread referenced by Wiggo, then it might cause serious problems later when the SETI staff attempt to identify and work with the returned results. If so, then I hope it turns out to be a non-issue, or at least a minor "ho-hum...". :) Now Eric is "dealing with the problem that led to new WU numbering scheme" that came from a "compiler bug, messing up the splitter code". Based on all the above, I wonder if it would help Eric to send a BOINC Notice asking those of us who feel comfortable with manual manipulation of our caches to suspend until further notice all cached WUs with the apparently erroneous "longnames"?
	ID: 1296448 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7669 Credit: 40,240,285 RAC: 21,527	Message 1296471 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 6:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 1296448.
	Now Eric is "dealing with the problem that led to new WU numbering scheme" that came from a "compiler bug, messing up the splitter code". Based on all the above, I wonder if it would help Eric to send a BOINC Notice asking those of us who feel comfortable with manual manipulation of our caches to suspend until further notice all cached WUs with the apparently erroneous "longnames"? No, no need to do anything like that. Eric dealt with the long names in passing, while working on testing for the new v7 application at SETI Beta. Here's what he said: That huge number is supposed to be the ID of the receiver we used, which is obtained from a library routine. I'm guessing that at some point the library was compiled with a version of g++ that doesn't have the same storage format for the data type used. Fortunately the correct values is used in the workunit header, so we don't have to do all this work over. (my emphasis) The technically minded can read the gory details from beta message 44104 onwards.
	ID: 1296471 ·

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5281 Credit: 41,781,725 RAC: 32,510	Message 1296480 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 7:13:12 UTC - in response to Message 1296471.
	Once again the splitters are unable to keep up with work demand. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
	ID: 1296480 ·

N9JFE Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 2863 Credit: 8,766,431 RAC: 12,253	Message 1296526 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 14:28:18 UTC
	Why is it there are 6 AP splitters and only 5 MB splitters? AP gets split faster than MB anyway, so it seems to me it would make more sense to have more MB splitters than APs. Could lando run a couple more MBs, especially since he's not running his APs right now? Okay, now I'm wondering... isn't the SSP supposed to update every 10 minutes? It's now 1427 UTC and the page is still showing 1410. ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.
	ID: 1296526 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34711 Credit: 354,607,717 RAC: 377,121	Message 1296543 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 15:14:44 UTC - in response to Message 1296526.
	Why is it there are 6 AP splitters and only 5 MB splitters? AP gets split faster than MB anyway, so it seems to me it would make more sense to have more MB splitters than APs. Could lando run a couple more MBs, especially since he's not running his APs right now? Okay, now I'm wondering... isn't the SSP supposed to update every 10 minutes? It's now 1427 UTC and the page is still showing 1410. Sometimes it's every 10 minutes and sometimes every 20... Last update 15:00. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1296543 ·

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5281 Credit: 41,781,725 RAC: 32,510	Message 1296997 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 21:25:53 UTC
	Bit of a backlog of MB validations building up. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
	ID: 1296997 ·

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5281 Credit: 41,781,725 RAC: 32,510	Message 1297343 - Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 21:56:39 UTC - in response to Message 1296997.
	MB validators appear to be clearing their backlog, now the assimilators are falling behind. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
	ID: 1297343 ·

clive G1FYE Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 4 Nov 04 Posts: 1284 Credit: 15,180,896 RAC: 14,841	Message 1298419 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 21:17:21 UTC Last modified: 24 Oct 2012, 21:20:01 UTC
	Hay man what happend. Sumfing is broke The cricket is dead, gon all white :(
	ID: 1298419 ·

[seti.international] Philip J. Fry Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 6632 Credit: 51,234,890 RAC: 17,025	Message 1298424 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 22:30:59 UTC
	Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance .. and then .. Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server Scheduler request failed: HTTP internal server error Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached * Best regards! :-) * Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. * Optimize your PC for higher RAC. * SETI@home needs your help. * ____________ >Das Deutsche Cafe. The German Cafe.<
	ID: 1298424 ·

Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 1645 Credit: 64,267,452 RAC: 55,114	Message 1298435 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 22:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 1298424.
	Things have been working well here since the servers come back online (approx. 90mins now). Cheers. ____________
	ID: 1298435 ·

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