What did God do before creation?

To the people I ignore...Just WAG is all that I seen from them. No real science that can be tested. GIGO.

Unless you have answers to all the questions asked of you before your vacation you shouldn't be posting. Unless, of course, you have something scientifically provable to add to the discussion.

Unless you have real answers, no WAG, GIGO shouldn't be taught in school

In that case, neither should Intelligent Design (No pun intended).

Intelligent Design is full of reason. WAG and GIGO is not.

To the people I ignore...Just WAG is all that I seen from them. No real science that can be tested. GIGO.

Unless you have answers to all the questions asked of you before your vacation you shouldn't be posting. Unless, of course, you have something scientifically provable to add to the discussion.

Unless you have real answers, no WAG, GIGO shouldn't be taught in school

In that case, neither should Intelligent Design (No pun intended).

Intelligent Design is full of reason. WAG and GIGO is not.

Wild a$$ed Guess.

Wild a$$ed Guess.

.....but without actual proof, isn't that what Intelligent Design is?

Anyone got an idea of the age of ID? (And I don't mean Stone Age) Just curious ...

Anyone got an idea of the age of ID? (And I don't mean Stone Age) Just curious ...

From our little tete-a-tete a few months ago....I'd say around 45/48, still got a lot to learn....:)
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See this is what bugs me.....

why does the "religious & scientists" keep giving the impression that we are the centre of the universe?

We are born, live & then die. So why can't the same be said for the universe? Why can't the death of a system give rise to the birth of another?

We are told that the universe is continuously expanding & during that expansion some solar systems die with others born.

Why couldn't it just be a case of birth & death? Why does a "god" have to be brought into it?

As for personal attacks, I'd suggest that to avoid misunderstandings you change your user name from that of a theory.
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We know by reason that God and natural law are real.

I am 48, clearly I have stated that. Nor are your personal attacks acceptable, they are out of line. Disrespectful.

Reason is not a WAG, nor is it GIGO.

"Catholic theologian St. Thomas Aquinas addressed this question way back in the 13th century. In the pondering of the concept of causality, the man noted that everything which happens in the natural universe has a cause. He also noted that there had to be an initial cause of the first things. He defined God as the initial causer of all things. God is "the uncaused cause," according to St. Thomas Aquinas. Although this is a very abstract definition and proof of God, it remains valid today."

I will agree that people who agree with WAG and what comes after GIGO have the right to believe that but I will not agree that it is reason.

More like TOGI.

"Truth Out, Garbage In"
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This should drive a few mad here ... there is no universe at all ...
http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1847

Observable consequences of the hypothesis that the observed universe is a numerical simulation performed on a cubic space-time lattice or grid are explored. The simulation scenario is first motivated by extrapolating current trends in computational resource requirements for lattice QCD into the future. Using the historical development of lattice gauge theory technology as a guide, we assume that our universe is an early numerical simulation with unimproved Wilson fermion discretization and investigate potentially-observable consequences. Among the observables that are considered are the muon g-2 and the current differences between determinations of alpha, but the most stringent bound on the inverse lattice spacing of the universe, b^(-1) >~ 10^(11) GeV, is derived from the high-energy cut off of the cosmic ray spectrum. The numerical simulation scenario could reveal itself in the distributions of the highest energy cosmic rays exhibiting a degree of rotational symmetry breaking that reflects the structure of the underlying lattice.

So an interesting pursuit is to simulate quantum chromodynamics on a computer to see what kind of complexity arises. The promise is that simulating physics on such a fundamental level is more or less equivalent to simulating the universe itself.

There are one or two challenges of course. The physics is mind-bogglingly complex and operates on a vanishingly small scale. So even using the world’s most powerful supercomputers, physicists have only managed to simulate tiny corners of the cosmos just a few femtometers across. (A femtometer is 10^-15 metres.)

That may not sound like much but the significant point is that the simulation is essentially indistinguishable from the real thing (at least as far as we understand it).

It’s not hard to imagine that Moore’s Law-type progress will allow physicists to simulate significantly larger regions of space. A region just a few micrometres across could encapsulate the entire workings of a human cell.

What did God do before creation?

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He delivered unleavened bread with sauce.
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