Cameron's First Term: Part 2
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Just checked my Lotto tickets for the double rollover draw last night. got 5 numbers paying £1,701 & after the cheque clears my account, i'm going to put £1k on a bet that won't pay out until after the next cabinet reshuffle. looking odds-on to win the bet....... Del-boy to rebuff foreign aid clamp down hmmn, wonder what department he'll shift her to next? ____________    | |
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Tut,tut Andy. What are you trying to do? Get an audition for Eastenders? | |
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Tut,tut Andy. What are you trying to do? Get an audition for Eastenders? I actually believed the police report from the start. Andrew Mitchell comes across as a pompous ass who should be sacked now. ____________  | |
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I actually believed the police report from the start. Andrew Mitchell comes across as a pompous ass who should be sacked now. His position is becoming increasingly untenable by the day. | |
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and he looks, and sounds, as arrogant as he is made out to be. Things just caught up, finally, this time. | |
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In British politics, the Chief Whip of the governing party in the House of Commons is usually appointed as Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury so that the incumbent, who represents the whips in general, has a seat and a voice in the Cabinet. By virtue of holding the office of Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, the Government Chief Whip has an official residence at 12 Downing Street. However, the Chief Whip's office is currently located at 9 Downing Street. Let's be clear here, dismissing a Cabinet Member for misdemeanors is no light matter. Unfortunately he does have a large say in running the Government. Whether he or any Chief whip should do, is of course is another matter. Dismissing him leaves a question mark over Cameron's judgement in appointing him in the first place, he's in a lose/lose situation. | |
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Not so, that has already been established by this..... Andy Coulson ____________ | |
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I think we are basically agreeing here. Cameron made an error of judgement in appointing Coulson, but he got round it at the time by saying he believed in giving people a second chance. In the Mitchell case, up until now as far as we know, that doesn't apply. It appears that the guy was under pressure and just "lost it" but that is simply not good enough for a senior government position. | |
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Totally agree, so how about shifting Justine Greening to the Chief Whip? Bet she can scare the bejasus out of them! | |
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Mr A "Pleb" Mitchell should be sacked or this guy reinstated. One can't have their bread buttered on both sides..... | |
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What's Eastenders? There are currently 809,000 Band G homes in England and 132,000 Band H homes, according to the last estimate from the Valuation Office Agency. And I know at least five homes that Clegg might think are in that bracket, but keep getting the band lowered because they are on a private road, which includes a bridge which is a "grade 2 listed building", the only utilities they get are electricity and basic phone line, too far from exchange or cabinet to get broadband. | |
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Tube trains strike RMT general secretary Bob Crow said: "RMT reiterates this union's complete opposition to driverless trains. Every train must have a driver to ensure the safe and effective running of the Underground. If tube trains become completely fully automated then the drivers won't have a job. If the drivers don't have a job then they won't need a trade union. If there is no need for a trade union then Bob Crow won't have a job. I am getting strong feelings of Déjà vu here remembering Arthur Scargill and the Miners strike back in the mid 1980's. Pits were becoming uneconomic to run, the National Coal Board had no option but to close certain pits down. Scargill wouldn't have it, he had to justify his position or resign. The result was that he plunged thousands of his members into abject poverty from which some never recovered, 10 people died, and the Union was virtually destroyed. These days he is now the leader of the Socialist Labour Party (SLP), which he founded in 1996. I fervently hope that we don't see anything like that again. It was not government union busting, it was dyed in the wool trade unionists refusing to accept the march of time, and that they didn't have a lifetime job by birthright. As technology increases, less manpower is needed, and that won't change. There are completely driverless systems like the Copenhagen Metro, the trains run automatically at all times, handle door closing, obstacle detection and emergency situations, without any regulatory requirement of staff present in the trains. In the UK we have the Docklands Light Railway (1987)and the Victoria line (1969) with ATO systems, the trains run automatically from station to station but a person is always present on the train with responsibility for door closing, obstacle detection on the track, and handling of emergency situations. Also it has to be said for passenger confidence. The unions can resist modernisation if they wish but it will happen. There is a poster here that actually worked on the London Underground, I would be interested to hear his considered and objective views on this subject. | |
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Good post. But one that cannot be clearly answered. However, I'll give it a try. | |
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Anyone know what the Magna Carta means in English? | |
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Good post. But one that cannot be clearly answered. However, I'll give it a try. Thanks for your thought provoking reply. Total automation on trains is inadvisable. The Victoria Line is the classic example - when first introduced, it worked seemlessly (after ironing out niggling little bugs). However after a few years of operation, the sensors that made the whole line work kept failing & the motormen had to take control & operate the trains. I would guess that these days sensors could be made that would work in that environment. At least we don't have "smouldering on the track" announcements any more, so hopefully the environment has improved. However you have first hand practical experience of the tube system and I haven't, so it would be sensible for me to defer to your better knowledge, as to whether we should have driverless trains. My opinion therefore is that it seems that the technology is there, but not applicable to the current UK tube infrastructure. If that is correct then it would seem sensible to maintain a train crew. But the likes of Bob Crow spouting on about undermining trade unionism is just typical blathering of those with his type of mindset. | |
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Anyone know what the Magna Carta means in English? I understood it as meaning "large document" but it actually means "Great Charter". Eton Ignoramus on Letterman That is unfair. But Cameron and his advisors should have known better than to let him go on to an American chat show of that ilk, where the smug presenter was obviously going to try to catch him out for the amusement of his audience. I would have said Elgar as well, and yes I did know it was Runnymede, I have been there. So much rubbish was talked about an island on the Thames and 1214-1/2 by that inconsequential actor. They, and many of the moderates not in overt rebellion, forced King John to agree to a document later known as the 'Articles of the Barons', to which his Great Seal was attached in the meadow at Runnymede on 15 June 1215. In return, the barons renewed their oaths of fealty to King John on 19 June 1215, which is when the document Magna Carta was created Letterman is a pratt and Cameron fell for it ..... sadly. | |
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Well this article say that drivers on the Victoria, Central and Jubilee lines just open the doors. | |
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Anyone know what the Magna Carta means in English? I agree, that is a bit unfair. He certainly handled it better than i think his predecessor would have managed. Admittedly i did know what Magna Carta means, but then i studied Latin for seven years. But saying Cameron must be an idiot because he didn't know that, or who wrote Rule Britannia (which i didn't know either), is rather making a mountain out of a molehill. As for inconsequential, next to Ed Milliband, really? And the less said about Clegg the better. (He lied to us! *shakes fist*) I wouldn't say i liked any of the current three leaders, but of them, Cameron is the one i dislike least. Boris for PM! ____________  Chemists have all the solutions! Skype me: simonator### (one zero one) | |
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Anyone know what the Magna Carta means in English? I don't watch the Letterman Show on a regular basis, though to call the presenter smug and a pratt is absurd. If anyone appeared smug on that show it was David "you caught me out" Cameron. I can't think of any other British PM (or, indeed, leader of the opposition) that would have not known the translation of Magna Carta. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...  | |
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Chris, since you assert "If tube trains become completely fully automated then the drivers won't have a job. If the drivers don't have a job then they won't need a trade union. If there is no need for a trade union then Bob Crow won't have a job.", which may be well true, then what do we do with the displaced? | |
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