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Message 1277744 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 1277652.  

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Message 1277745 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:43:09 UTC - in response to Message 1277744.  

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Message 1277755 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:57:27 UTC

Thanks to everyone who has helped me out. Jeez I've been working on this setup for about three days. I just finished downloading More Lunatics Apps and drivers for all my computers. Looking pretty good so far. Again Thanks for being patient and helping a NooB out. :-)>
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Message 1277787 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 21:43:05 UTC - in response to Message 1277755.  

Now that it seems to run, you might want to start slowly increasing the cache size on this machine, with 1 CPU WU and 3 GPU WUs you'll run out of work quite often.
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Message 1277806 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 22:21:26 UTC - in response to Message 1277465.  

What can I expect to happen to the wu I have waiting that are cpu? now that I have the gpu boxes checked. will they still crunch those WU's?


The CPU will only spend maybe 5% of it's time feeding work to the new GPU, the other 95% of the time it's still available to do normal CPU work. So the CPU tasks it already has, and the new ones in the future will get done normally.

Running CUDA is extra to what the CPU can normally do.

Re-run the Optimised Apps setup and select both CPU AND GPU there and in all your preferences. Sure the GPU will end up doing more of the work, but the CPU will still do some useful work in it's spare time.

My CUDA machines only have 8400 cards (not that flash), so the GPU only puts through a similar amount of to one core of the CPU. But the CPU is still able to do 95% of the usual work it does. Overall, more work gets done.

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The little celeron cpu might get very sluggish feeding the fermi gpu and also crunching. The overall results might improve with no cpu tasks. Only testing will really answer that.

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Message 1277807 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 22:23:27 UTC - in response to Message 1277787.  

Now that it seems to run, you might want to start slowly increasing the cache size on this machine, with 1 CPU WU and 3 GPU WUs you'll run out of work quite often.


Yes I was noticing that. I'm not quite sure what kind of numbers to put in there. Can you give me a ballpark fiqure?
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Message 1277808 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 22:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 1277807.  

I'm not quite sure what kind of numbers to put in there. Can you give me a ballpark fiqure?

I'd start with "keep work for at least" 1.0 + 0.1 additional. Once the time estimates for GPU become "OK" (should usually happen after 10 validated tasks + some additional time for the local DCF) you can increase that to 5.0-6.0 + 0.1.
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Message 1277812 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 22:37:59 UTC - in response to Message 1277808.  

Awesome. I'll get her going.

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Message 1277820 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 22:52:57 UTC - in response to Message 1277808.  

I'm not quite sure what kind of numbers to put in there. Can you give me a ballpark fiqure?

I'd start with "keep work for at least" 1.0 + 0.1 additional. Once the time estimates for GPU become "OK" (should usually happen after 10 validated tasks + some additional time for the local DCF) you can increase that to 5.0-6.0 + 0.1.


Is DCF leave free at least the 5.0-6.0 + 0.1 ?

I already had it set to keep work foe 10 days + 10 additional days. Am I going in the right direction?
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Message 1277828 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 23:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 1277820.  

I'm not quite sure what kind of numbers to put in there. Can you give me a ballpark fiqure?

I'd start with "keep work for at least" 1.0 + 0.1 additional. Once the time estimates for GPU become "OK" (should usually happen after 10 validated tasks + some additional time for the local DCF) you can increase that to 5.0-6.0 + 0.1.


Is DCF leave free at least the 5.0-6.0 + 0.1 ?

I already had it set to keep work foe 10 days + 10 additional days. Am I going in the right direction?

I would recommend that you start with 5 days and the additional 0.1.
What you must remember is that the labeling on this is incorrect: it is not really additional work, it determines how often the program will contact the servder for additonal. (It is not additional days) Personally I run with only 5 days data because if anything ever goes wrong with your system you will normally have time to finish all the WUs before thier deadlings.

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Message 1277831 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 0:02:28 UTC - in response to Message 1277828.  

Ok I got it. I was trying to read more into it I guess. Thanks:-)>
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Message 1278153 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 12:38:38 UTC
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Run times seem to be about twice as long as they should be for the GT430 ... I have 3 of the same cards and they all finish a 0.4 AR WU in about an hour ... Yours is taking over 2 hours for the same angle range ... Is the card downclocked?

Edit to add that mine are all moderately OC'd but it shouldn't make that much difference.
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Message 1278209 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 14:23:50 UTC - in response to Message 1278153.  

Run times seem to be about twice as long as they should be for the GT430 ... I have 3 of the same cards and they all finish a 0.4 AR WU in about an hour ... Yours is taking over 2 hours for the same angle range ... Is the card downclocked?

Edit to add that mine are all moderately OC'd but it shouldn't make that much difference.


It's running how it came out of the box. It started out fast, but seems to have slowed down. At first I was running two tasks at once, cpu and gpu, but now the cpu is barely even running and the gpu is slow. Still not getting but one or two tasks at atime also.
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Message 1278280 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 15:40:31 UTC
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Run GPU-Z, click on the Sensors tab, and see what it reports for core/memory/shader clocks. It should be 700/1400/600 respectively.

edit: Make that 700/600/1400 respectively ... sorry.
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Message 1278288 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 15:59:16 UTC - in response to Message 1278280.  

Yes Thanks. Thats what it was running at, so I overclocked the Gpu a bit, and also checked the Cpu box in the seti preferances, and now I have two tasks running, and one waiting. However according to the task mgr, the cpu is doing more of the work but when you look at the precentage and elasped times the Gpu appears to be going a lot faster.
I guess I will just have to make some small changes until I get it right.

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Message 1278293 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 16:17:19 UTC - in response to Message 1278288.  

Yes Thanks. Thats what it was running at, so I overclocked the Gpu a bit, and also checked the Cpu box in the seti preferances, and now I have two tasks running, and one waiting. However according to the task mgr, the cpu is doing more of the work but when you look at the precentage and elasped times the Gpu appears to be going a lot faster.
I guess I will just have to make some small changes until I get it right.

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When you look at task manager the CPU should be using most of the processor time with the GPU application using close to none. On my old GT 8500 the CPU usages is normally 1 to 2% with it jumping to 5% sometimes.
However when tasks are loading on the GPU the GPU app usage might be nearly max.
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Message 1278301 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 16:36:11 UTC - in response to Message 1278293.  

Ok cool. Thanks. Eases my mind a bit. I guess I just fiqured the Gpu would be the one using the most resources.
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Message 1278305 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 16:46:24 UTC - in response to Message 1278301.  

Ok cool. Thanks. Eases my mind a bit. I guess I just fiqured the Gpu would be the one using the most resources.

Well in a way it is. With GPUz you can monitor the GPU usage %.
I prefer to use NVIDIA Inspector since it is like GPUz & has nicer graphs plus overclocking functions.
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Message 1279849 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 1:33:35 UTC - in response to Message 1278153.  

Run times seem to be about twice as long as they should be for the GT430 ... I have 3 of the same cards and they all finish a 0.4 AR WU in about an hour ... Yours is taking over 2 hours for the same angle range ... Is the card downclocked?

Edit to add that mine are all moderately OC'd but it shouldn't make that much difference.

A difference I see is you appear to be using your cpu only to feed the gt 430s and on that machine the cpu is also crunching seti. It took 43 hrs for 1 astropulse. That's a lot of electricity for apx 700 cr.
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Message 1279987 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 14:23:27 UTC - in response to Message 1279849.  

I see. Is that just a matter of checking the gpu only box in preferances? It seems that PC is taking its orders from the default setting, and not the work settings. I just changed to the Gpu settings only. Now I wonder if the other computers will also follow the default settings. Thanks for watching my back. Let me know if I'm on the right course action.

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