An argument for the existence of God: Second Pass...

Fair enough there -- there are a number of observant Jews who are astrophysicists. They make that work by accepting variable length days as part of their belief system. Then again, they (like many Jews) look at the Tenach as very much subject to interpretation -- multiple interpretations for that matter.

How long is a day for God?

The Bible was written of men, for men. Would they not have used the same units for "days" that men understood?

If the term "days" is up for interpretation, how much more of the Bible is up for interpretation?...

Who decides what's solid truth in the Bible, and what's up for interpretation?

And yes, John knew.......
He knew.
Imagine....he DID.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace

How long is a day for God?

The Bible was written of men, for men. Would they not have used the same units for "days" that men understood?

If the term "days" is up for interpretation, how much more of the Bible is up for interpretation?...

Who decides what's solid truth in the Bible, and what's up for interpretation?

so the earth is much much older than the moon and stars according to the biblical fairy tales?

After all, the book clearly tells us the earth was made before the moon and the stars....
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Janice

The Master of the fabric of spacetime has no need of our linear time. He stands outsdie of it. After all He Created it. Over time, we have become more aware of how time works. When Moses wrote the first chapters of the Bible man was much younger then we are now. Over that time, we have a much better understanding of what time is. It's something that we cannot ignor or escape, we grow old and die. But, for God, time has no meaning as we understand time. He is ageless, timeless, this is how we have come to understand God. Such a Being stands outside of our lineartime scale.

In the book Evolution from Space, astronomers Sir Fred Hoyle and Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe calculated that the odds of randomly producing the required enzymes for a simple living cell were 1 in 1040,000. Since the number of atoms in the known universe would be only 1080, they argued that even a whole universe full of "primordial soup" wouldn't stand a chance or randomly producing a simple cell [that really isn't that simple]. Hoyle also likened the random appearance of the simplest cell to the chance that "a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein." So, at the very start of life we seem to have a problem that cannot be overcome by chance. It would seem that a guiding Hand is needed right at the start of life itself.

But, here we are now with life. We are born, we live, we die. The odds of just a single cell starting out by chance precludes a random happening of ourselves, with our trillions of cells and the advantage if intelligence over all other creatures living on this rock. The theory of evolution has no-thing to do with Intelligent Design. Darwin based his theory upon random mutations and the survival of the fittest; a genetic mutation occurs, and if it is a benefit the organism prospers. If the mutation is in any way harmful, the organism struggles and the mutation dies out along with the organism. It sounds like a GREAT theory for explaining how small changes occur, and I agree with it; to gradually adapt to changing conditions nature tosses at it. But it fails utterly to address how complex bio systems and structures form [heart, mind, eyes, etc, etc, etc] or how life began in the first place. Mutations are most always associated with real bad things like cancer and radiation sickness, not with intelligence or positive evolution. They introduce chaos into a system; not order. Random mutations clearly did not give rise to human beings. Chaos and order might live right next to each other, but, one is not an advantage for the other.

Would you say the odds of someone being named Chandra Wickramasinghe are 22^26 which is one in eight followed by 34 zeros .

I didn't see a "?" so Im not obligated to answer.

Putting one there now is not a option. Nor is rewording the same question later...

Um, Yas

The Odds of winning the lottery Powerball Jackpot are about 1 in 200 million. Yet someone manages to win every few weeks.

So how many tries were there to start the molecules necessary for life?

ID, actually, you are never obligated to answer questions whether they are directed to you or not -- this is a good thing.

Then again, if you take folks to tasks for syntax, a lack of grammatical marks, or spelling, you might find that one can come around to you.

Um, Yas

The Odds of winning the lottery Powerball Jackpot are about 1 in 200 million. Yet someone manages to win every few weeks.

So how many tries were there to start the molecules necessary for life?

ID, actually, you are never obligated to answer questions whether they are directed to you or not -- this is a good thing.

Then again, if you take folks to tasks for syntax, a lack of grammatical marks, or spelling, you might find that one can come around to you.

Would you say the odds of someone being named Chandra Wickramasinghe are 22^26 which is one in eight followed by 34 zeros .