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Message 1236449 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 9:05:44 UTC

I have a problem with my PC.

This are two kind of strange behavior.

1.
If I have a window open (browser or an other program), sometimes the window go passive, it's not longer active (the color on the top change) - I did nothing. ;-)

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If I click the mouse one time, the PC think I did it two times - and do something other than I wanted.
E.g. I click one time in WordPad to a word the cursour mark the whole word.

The one click mark function of the mouse is active.
But I don't think it have something to do with the upper strange behavior.


..this happen more and more.


I think my PC reached a new level and his own intelligence and independent living - and want kidding me. ;-D


Someone know what's going on really?


Thanks.


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Message 1236456 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 9:35:59 UTC

Did you check for viruses ?



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Message 1236459 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 9:39:35 UTC

I had similar problem on an old notebook once (unexplained mouse clicks and button "sticking"). Disabling trackpad fixed the problem.
But it *could* be malware in your case.
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Message 1236508 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 13:42:46 UTC - in response to Message 1236459.  

Mike wrote:
Did you check for viruses ?

Yes.
I have Avira AntiVir Personal - Free Antivirus.

Khangollo wrote:
I had similar problem on an old notebook once (unexplained mouse clicks and button "sticking"). Disabling trackpad fixed the problem.
But it *could* be malware in your case.

At my PC the mouse do sometimes double clicks - although I click only one time.
And the active window go passive.

What is 'trackpad'?


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Message 1236524 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 14:22:12 UTC

Try a different mouse. The microswitch in the one you're using may be nearly worn out.
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Message 1236558 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 15:40:56 UTC - in response to Message 1236508.  
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What is 'trackpad'?

I meant touchpad, that supplement for mouse all notebooks have. In my case it was malfunctioning and causing mouse clicks on its own, so I disabled its drivers.

I have Avira AntiVir Personal - Free Antivirus.

Just in case, also try Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Free (it is on-demand only, so it won't slow down your system or interfere with other antivirus programs).
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Message 1236569 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 15:49:03 UTC

I would also assume you have rebooted?
When my daily driver has not been rebooted for many days, I have had some anomalies arise where certain mouse functions do other than what is expected.
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Message 1236645 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 17:58:00 UTC

Try spybot search and destroy in addition.
Its a known fact that avira doesn´t find everything.



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Message 1236651 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 18:06:28 UTC

A new mouse and Microsoft Security Essentials.

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Message 1236864 - Posted: 26 May 2012, 1:12:03 UTC - in response to Message 1236651.  



What was it that Dirty Harry said about opinions?:D

Gotta luv Dirty Harry.......
Never afraid to lay it on the line.
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Message 1238463 - Posted: 28 May 2012, 12:27:53 UTC - in response to Message 1236449.  

1.
If I have a window open (browser or an other program), sometimes the window go passive, it's not longer active (the color on the top change) - I did nothing. ;-)

2.
If I click the mouse one time, the PC think I did it two times - and do something other than I wanted.

The one click mark function of the mouse is active.

Do you mean this as "The one click mark function"?:




 


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Message 1248629 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 7:24:19 UTC

Thanks to all.

I looked to/made all suggestions...

Ops, I meant - I go with the mouse over an icon, and immediately the icon get a 'one click' automatically (single-click option).

But the problems are still on the PC and they comes more and more.

Immediately after an reboot.


Now sometimes if I click one time to something, sometimes 2 or 3 click happen.

Also, I read in an active window, I press nothing, the active window go passive (it's shown on the top that the color change).

This both happen.


Now something comes to my mind (I can't remember well if both happened to the same time).
Normally if I make a reboot...
On the screen, first a picture of the motherboard manufacturer, then a black picture of Windows XP with the blue 'Knight Rider bar', then a blue picture where it's written 'Windows XP - start now'.
This blue picture was in past ~ 1 seconds on the screen.
Now the blue picture is ~ 10 seconds there.

So it looks like that a tool is starting in the background now before I can use Windows, correct?

So I can guess a virus/trojan is on my PC? :-(


Which online virus/trojan scan website you could recommend?
Someone know a very well and secure & trusted site?
Because the website will search my whole HDD, so it's like the firewall is down.


By the way, which antivirus tool you would recommend?
Free and pay/'rent' tools (which is the best?)?
(for the future)


Thanks


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Message 1248681 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 11:03:30 UTC
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Microsoft Security Essentials as an antivirus. I used to run Avira but now prefer MSE. In fact I recommend everyone who hasn't tried it, to give it a test-drive. You may not like it as much as I do (which is fine... we all have our preferences). But it's nice and quiet and stays out of the way (and it WORKS, of course).

Download MalwareBytes as an extra measure and run a scan. I uninstall it after the scan, since I won't be needing it again for months (or even a year if I'm lucky). I've never had MalwareBytes actually find anything ever since I've been running MSE... usually it's just me being paranoid. But I'm running Windows7. XP is a bit more sensitive to malware.

About the clicking:
If you already tried a different mouse, then it's your keyboard that is going crazy:) Try opening something like notepad and press all your keys, one by one, and see what happens. Maybe one of them is "sticky".

Summary: it's probably the mouse but if not, then it's the keyboard.

Another one of my favorite programs is Revo Uninstaller. I also recommend everybody who hasn't tried this to give it a test drive. I've been using it for years. It has an extra feature in "Tools" called Autorun Manager. There are better Autorun progrms out there, but they are also far more complicated. I use this quite often to kill Adobe, Java and other crap from pre-loading. If you right-click on anything on the list you get a ton of options, one of them being a Google search.

MSE, MalwareBytes and Revo Unistaller are all free. What I can't remember is if they (the last two)try to trick you into downloading extra "toolbars" like Google, Ask or the ultra-crappy Babylon. So don't go pressing next-next-next!:) Just untick the boxes and nothing else will get installed.

Edit:
Microsoft Security Essentials
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Free
Download Revo Uninstaller Freeware

(MalwareBytes and Revo have both FREE and Pro/paid versions. The free versions should be more than enough for home users)
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Message 1248700 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 12:23:01 UTC - in response to Message 1248629.  


Detach (unplug) the mouse from the computer, try to use only keyboard.
(e.g. Win+D to show Desktop, some letter to go to an icon, arrows, Enter
Win to open Start Menu, arrows
Win+D Tab Tab to go to Quick Launch, letters, arrows
Alt+Tab to switch between programs
Ctrl+Tab to switch between tabs
)

Do the same problem continue (without the mouse)?


 


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Message 1248708 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 12:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 1248700.  

Yes and I have also a new modem using WiFi N. That from my BlobBox set top box to the modem (65 Mbit/s) while my SUN WS is connected to the modem by an Ethernet cable. My ADSL runs at 16 Mbit/s out of 20.
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Message 1248779 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 16:02:39 UTC - in response to Message 1248629.  
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By the way, which antivirus tool you would recommend?

In addition to MSE, which was already recommended above and specially if you want very little RAM usage: Avast Free Antivirus. You can even choose, which components of it you want to install, so if you don't need for example P2P protection, you don't need to install it. On dedicated crunchers there are few things you probably don't need to install. Just make sure not to install Google Chrome (unless you want to).
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Message 1248874 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 18:55:47 UTC - in response to Message 1248779.  

Link, what don't you like about Chrome?
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Message 1248882 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 19:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 1248874.  
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Nothing wrong with Chrome, I just don't like, when some programs are installed together with others (and have to be uninstalled after that), so if I know that an installer contains something like that, I usually warn users, so they don't install it by mistake (only if they really want to).
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Message 1249906 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012, 11:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 1248779.  

Better late than never!:)

In addition to MSE, which was already recommended above and specially if you want very little RAM usage: Avast Free Antivirus.


After you said that, I remembered reading about Avast somewhere... well I found it!

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-free-antivirus-2012,review-1767.html

So Avast also highly recommended (though I have no personal experience with it).

BTW Sutaru, did you ever get to the bottom of your "clicking" problem?
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Message 1249969 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012, 15:00:19 UTC

I don't believe in free anti-virus software, don't trust them. It may be my old age or something else. Many of them do not have the features of the paid products. From my many years of mainframe systems experience, I use the Total Defense Internet Security package. Total Defense is the rebranded internet security arm of Computer Associates. Computer Associates has been providing mainframe/mid-frame security for several decades.

As for Norton, Symantic, AVG, TrendMicro, McAfee and many others; I've found that this product is far superior. Among other things, the others tend to give me too many false readings for my taste, which could lead to a piece of software not installing properly. I have several associates that have had problems with several of these products in the past and once they removed them and installed this product, they have had no further problems.

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