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Message 1271209 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 18:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 1271203.

Morally slavery was and still is wrong. Just because it was ok with the law makes no difference. The intent WAS to make the south give up this morally wrong slavery. So, yes the south was boxed in and done so for good reason.

The deal that was struck was done so by Jefferson as well as others and done so looking into the future, They didn't want a war becuse the nation was newly formed. Impoertation of slaves was stopped till Jefferson term at Prez was over. In the deal Jefferson got D.C. in the South.



So it seems that even back then money talks. There was a war anyways. The most costly in American history. All beacause our founding fathers waffled on human rights.
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Message 1271218 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 18:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 1271214.

Obamma has not passed a budget and he is the only one in the history of this nation to do so, this is treason.

He has not shown a long form birth record so how did he get a passport?

Do get your facts right or SHUT UP

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Message 1271236 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 19:16:02 UTC - in response to Message 1271218.
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Obamma has not passed a budget and he is the only one in the history of this nation to do so, this is treason.

He has not shown a long form birth record so how did he get a passport?

Do get your facts right or SHUT UP

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate.pdf

Lets not forget that any budget he proposes is rejected out of hand and each segment(department) is funded separately. As I recall the budgets are a bit more transparent, eliminating the fake emergency spending for the Wars is the biggest part or transparency.

You'll recall that Bush intentionally left out the wars from his budgets. This made it look like a lean budget even though we spent an extra $trillion a year to pay for the wars through congressional emergency spending.
Had congress put his feet to the fire and not passed the emergency spending and insisted that any war appropriations be part of the budget we'd basically see that Obamas budgets are about what Bush was doing only with tranparency.

Let's not forget that it is not Obamas job to fund the Government it is Congress that does so. If Congress doesn't like his budget they pick it apart or create their own.

Lets not forget that the gov't hasn't shutdown much, except when the Rep. in Congress decided to obstruct passage of funding bills. So yes Obama has signed legislation to keep the gov't running. How else do you think they keep the lights on
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Message 1271243 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 19:43:19 UTC - in response to Message 1271206.

I have already answered this question Bobby the fact that you have not reread what I have posted here has not gone unnoticed.


5 Ds or truthiness. You made an unsupported assertion about white slavery and did not address the Wikipedia source material.

I see no references to the Wikipedia source for Skildude's comments, namely "Negro President - Jefferson and the Slave Power" by Garry Wills other than my own. Does Wikipedia inaccurately portray the information from this source, if so how? If not, why the unwarranted attack on Wikipedia as a source for information in Skildude's post?


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Message 1271281 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 21:43:37 UTC - in response to Message 1271214.

Obamma has not passed a budget and he is the only one in the history of this nation to do so, this is treason.

He has not shown a long form birth record so how did he get a passport?


Sources please.
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Message 1271286 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 21:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 1271281.

Obamma has not passed a budget and he is the only one in the history of this nation to do so, this is treason.

He has not shown a long form birth record so how did he get a passport?


Sources please.

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Message 1271303 - Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 22:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 1271302.

So not even a republican would vote for him
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Message 1271479 - Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 12:29:32 UTC - in response to Message 1271309.

From my Boss, Randy Stufflebeam...

The parties not only kick each other when they are down, but they also pick each other back up, because each needs its opponent in order to continue the farcical show of difference in order to contain real opposition within their bifurcated fraudulence. The object is to contain all differences within the party system in order to keep real opposition from mounting from without.



I cant argue with that. Keep the staus quo. A real strong 3rd party would scare the pants off of them.
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Message 1272126 - Posted: 17 Aug 2012, 16:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 1271586.

From my Boss, Randy Stufflebeam...

The parties not only kick each other when they are down, but they also pick each other back up, because each needs its opponent in order to continue the farcical show of difference in order to contain real opposition within their bifurcated fraudulence. The object is to contain all differences within the party system in order to keep real opposition from mounting from without.



I cant argue with that. Keep the staus quo. A real strong 3rd party would scare the pants off of them.

Indeed it would...

unfortunately for some here the only feasible 3rd party would have to be a moderate party. Since Teapulbicans are stretching the conservative vote to the extreme... wait we already have a moderate party its the Democratic party. They've long since given up on social programs and have become the stalwarts of the middle.
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