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Message 1229252 - Posted: 8 May 2012, 22:37:55 UTC - in response to Message 1229245.

12!

& waiting for purging 8 & 127. I suppose once everything reaches 0 they will start putting the v6 info up there.
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Message 1229502 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 12:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 1229245.

10!

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Message 1230037 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 15:50:02 UTC

And then there were......8.
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Message 1230449 - Posted: 11 May 2012, 7:15:15 UTC - in response to Message 1230037.

And then there were......8.


And then there were......7.
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Message 1230468 - Posted: 11 May 2012, 10:16:59 UTC - in response to Message 1230449.

Now 6
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Message 1230545 - Posted: 11 May 2012, 15:14:13 UTC

We're down to 4!
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Message 1231474 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 8:41:03 UTC - in response to Message 1230545.

We're down to 4!


make that 3
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Message 1231683 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 19:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 1231474.

We're down to 4!


make that 3


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Message 1232407 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 9:02:38 UTC
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Another one has been returned, but now there are 4 Results in progress rather than the expected 2!

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Message 1232412 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 9:24:51 UTC - in response to Message 1232407.

Another one has been returned, but now there are 4 Results in progress rather than the expected 2!

'Returned' in that context could just mean yet another deadline passed. That - or any one of a number of other outcomes - will require another resend, and perhaps another 25 days before we can finally put this sequence to bed, if the resend has gone to somebody taking advantage of the newly unlimited caches.

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Message 1232415 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 9:37:04 UTC - in response to Message 1232412.
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Another one has been returned, but now there are 4 Results in progress rather than the expected 2!

'Returned' in that context could just mean yet another deadline passed. That - or any one of a number of other outcomes - will require another resend, and perhaps another 25 days before we can finally put this sequence to bed, if the resend has gone to somebody taking advantage of the newly unlimited caches.

Yes, but it came back in 186.88 hours so how can it be a deadline? I guess it could have been aborted. 3 I could understand, but what could cause 4? Two timeout resends?

Is there any way to get a list of who has the 4 AP WUs please?

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Message 1232417 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 9:55:57 UTC - in response to Message 1232415.

Is there any way to get a list of who has the 4 AP WUs please?

Ask Eric to give you sufficient access rights to run a bespoke SQL query against the database? Not going to happen.

Test every possible WU ID number? That will (or should) get your IP blacklisted for mounting a DOS attack.

Better just to wait. It may be fun watching, but it really doesn't matter, in the overall scheme of things.

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Message 1232464 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 13:16:00 UTC - in response to Message 1232415.

Another one has been returned, but now there are 4 Results in progress rather than the expected 2!

'Returned' in that context could just mean yet another deadline passed. That - or any one of a number of other outcomes - will require another resend, and perhaps another 25 days before we can finally put this sequence to bed, if the resend has gone to somebody taking advantage of the newly unlimited caches.

Yes, but it came back in 186.88 hours so how can it be a deadline? I guess it could have been aborted. 3 I could understand, but what could cause 4? Two timeout resends?

Is there any way to get a list of who has the 4 AP WUs please?

It ain't me! I had one, but I returned it a couple of weeks ago.

I'm also wondering why it went back up to 4. I hope someone in the lab is at least curious enough to check for himself and see if they're out to hosts that are likely to return them.

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Message 1233630 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 21:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 1232464.

Another one has been returned, but now there are 4 Results in progress rather than the expected 2!

'Returned' in that context could just mean yet another deadline passed. That - or any one of a number of other outcomes - will require another resend, and perhaps another 25 days before we can finally put this sequence to bed, if the resend has gone to somebody taking advantage of the newly unlimited caches.

Yes, but it came back in 186.88 hours so how can it be a deadline? I guess it could have been aborted. 3 I could understand, but what could cause 4? Two timeout resends?

Is there any way to get a list of who has the 4 AP WUs please?

It ain't me! I had one, but I returned it a couple of weeks ago.

I'm also wondering why it went back up to 4. I hope someone in the lab is at least curious enough to check for himself and see if they're out to hosts that are likely to return them.


Amidst all the power cut problems we seem to have forgotten about this thread. Just noticed AP5 out in the field has now gone up to 5!
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Message 1233768 - Posted: 20 May 2012, 1:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 1233630.
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I'm also wondering why it went back up to 4. I hope someone in the lab is at least curious enough to check for himself and see if they're out to hosts that are likely to return them.


Simply because tasks that have timed out "return home" to wait for a new host to come along. Until then, they are not out in the field!

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Message 1233783 - Posted: 20 May 2012, 2:18:30 UTC - in response to Message 1233768.

I'm also wondering why it went back up to 4. I hope someone in the lab is at least curious enough to check for himself and see if they're out to hosts that are likely to return them.

Simply because tasks that have timed out "return home" to wait for a new host to come along. Until then, they are not out in the field!

Yes, and with all AP tasks having exactly 25 day deadlines there's likely to be some correlation in timeouts. I don't remember exactly what day they stopped splitting AP v505 tasks, but it was around March 10 and we're getting close to 75 days after that.

In pure theory, if one of the first two task replications was completed normally but all the wingmates time out it would be some time in October before the maximum total replications of 10 would be reached.
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Message 1233901 - Posted: 20 May 2012, 6:39:33 UTC - in response to Message 1233783.

A theoretical 250 days to bounce around peeing everyone off!

Has to be a solution for user or admin to notify of a bad host and force reassignment, prioritize high turnover hosts etc.
There already is something in place that limits delivery to hosts that produce many errors, so shouldn't be difficult to add. I remember having this discussion some years ago!

Not checking in for a few days could count as an error, if the user has specified that the machine is permanently connected to the net and expects to check in/report daily.

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Message 1233906 - Posted: 20 May 2012, 6:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 1233783.

I'm also wondering why it went back up to 4. I hope someone in the lab is at least curious enough to check for himself and see if they're out to hosts that are likely to return them.

Simply because tasks that have timed out "return home" to wait for a new host to come along. Until then, they are not out in the field!

Yes, and with all AP tasks having exactly 25 day deadlines there's likely to be some correlation in timeouts. I don't remember exactly what day they stopped splitting AP v505 tasks, but it was around March 10 and we're getting close to 75 days after that.

In pure theory, if one of the first two task replications was completed normally but all the wingmates time out it would be some time in October before the maximum total replications of 10 would be reached.
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I'm pretty sure a few weeks ago I mathed out that they should all expire by October 1, but I don't remember what my start date was for that math. At any rate, by Halloween, v505 should be dead.
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Message 1234457 - Posted: 21 May 2012, 11:14:08 UTC - in response to Message 1233906.

At any rate, by Halloween, v505 should be dead.


At haloween the dead do rise from the grave,
there are zombies all over the place [around here, anyway]
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There may be a bit of `fun` left in the old bits yet :¬)

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Message 1235426 - Posted: 23 May 2012, 13:33:32 UTC

The SSP is back to showing 4 in the field. It also has 1 waiting for validation. Now I'm wondering if this means the 4 have not had a response from ANY host to which they've been sent.

I take it there's no way for any of us who don't work in the lab to find out the history of these last few WUs.

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