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Message 1250606 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 21:21:11 UTC

China's 1st female astronaut

Good luck to her & hope she lands safely.

However, I would like to know the reasons why this happened: -

"The launch is the latest step in China's ambitious programme to build its own space station. American objections prevented it from participating in the international space station".

Wouldn't it have been better to get their co-operation & to reduce the cost of the USA's space program & maybe it would have enabled closer co-operation rather than possible future disagreements?
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Message 1250623 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 21:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1250606.

The US Congress rejected collaboration on the grounds of concerns regarding technology transfers (ie from the US Military to the Chinese Military).

In a decade or two, the issue might be reversed.

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Message 1250626 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 21:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 1250623.

The US Congress rejected collaboration on the grounds of concerns regarding technology transfers (ie from the US Military to the Chinese Military).

In a decade or two, the issue might be reversed.


Yep, amazing that issue - Like Phil Zimmerman's treatment when PGP was released - different story altogether when Computer Associates bought it out.
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Message 1250711 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 0:50:05 UTC

Right on Barry and Sirius. couldn't agree more.
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Message 1250725 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 2:16:45 UTC - in response to Message 1250626.

The US Congress rejected collaboration on the grounds of concerns regarding technology transfers (ie from the US Military to the Chinese Military).

In a decade or two, the issue might be reversed.


Yep, amazing that issue - Like Phil Zimmerman's treatment when PGP was released - different story altogether when Computer Associates bought it out.


I would think with all the worlds tech copmanies having China make there products, They wouldnt need the US's technology. I would find it hard not to believe that China has taken apart every thing they make to see how it works.

I also think its stupid for the US to be ramping down its space program while China is ramping theres up. Once you loose the people with those skills they are hard to replace. And if you loose the institutional memory, You end up having to relearn things that didnt work.
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Message 1250772 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 6:42:58 UTC - in response to Message 1250725.

The US has been backing off manned space development for a long time -- simply not enough votes in it and votes are all that matters it seems.





I also think its stupid for the US to be ramping down its space program while China is ramping theres up. Once you loose the people with those skills they are hard to replace. And if you loose the institutional memory, You end up having to relearn things that didnt work.

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Message 1250867 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 14:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 1250772.

Not votes, bribes, er campaign contributions ...

The US has been backing off manned space development for a long time -- simply not enough votes in it and votes are all that matters it seems.





I also think its stupid for the US to be ramping down its space program while China is ramping theres up. Once you loose the people with those skills they are hard to replace. And if you loose the institutional memory, You end up having to relearn things that didnt work.



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Message 1250888 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 15:14:23 UTC

They're making a good start
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Message 1250941 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 16:44:19 UTC - in response to Message 1250867.

Not votes, bribes, er campaign contributions ...


Ain't that (sadly) the truth.
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Message 1250999 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 18:51:36 UTC - in response to Message 1250867.

Under Citizens United, it is much the same thing...



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Message 1251722 - Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 7:16:15 UTC - in response to Message 1250888.

They're making a good start

The first bit of China in space, I wounder if it was a tea cup.


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Message 1251901 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 1:57:54 UTC

We are starting to move out forces back into the region, Because China is Rising.


http://defensetech.org/2012/06/26/video-chinas-carrier-at-sea/
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Message 1251918 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 4:01:43 UTC - in response to Message 1251901.

The developing alliance between the US and Vietnam might be kind of interesting..


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Message 1258048 - Posted: 9 Jul 2012, 15:12:40 UTC

Worrying times for China? Are we heading into a worldwide depression?

Chinese inflation slows to lowest in 2 years

"There is still room for an interest cut by year end, but... the central bank will likely rely more on quantitative measures such as cuts in the required reserve ratio," Tang said.

It seems that many are using QE....too much of this soon becomes as bad as too little...

Here's hoping that someone somewhere can get the numbers right.......
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Message 1258063 - Posted: 9 Jul 2012, 15:52:22 UTC

It's gotta be a compromise somewhere in the middle.

Which is just impossible for most people, even though there are matching ideas on both sides of the spectrum that could lead to a common ground.
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Message 1258075 - Posted: 9 Jul 2012, 16:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 1258048.

Sirius, I fear we are seeing a downward inward spiral of the interconnected industrial economies.
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Message 1258433 - Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 6:46:38 UTC
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For several years now I have been meaning to buy the Rosetta Stone Spanish language software, living in Florida it seemed a wise investment. But now instead I think we need to be learning Chinese. There is a limit on the number of refugees coming out of Cuba and Haiti but there is no limit on the number of Chinese that could someday occupy North America.

And if you live in Russia you better be in a hurry to learn Chinese. They need oil and a lot of it and Russia just may be where they decide to get it from.
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Message 1258609 - Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 23:36:58 UTC - in response to Message 1258433.

I suspect the Chinese are looking to find oil in the South China Sea -- they claim that space already (Vietnam does as well, but they don't have nukes, like Russia).

Aside from that, they expect to corner the market on Iranian oil as well.





And if you live in Russia you better be in a hurry to learn Chinese. They need oil and a lot of it and Russia just may be where they decide to get it from.

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Message 1258925 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 14:53:03 UTC

We have the examples of Taiwan and Tibet. Is Japan next?...


Japan protests at Chinese ships near disputed islands

Japan has summoned China's ambassador to protest against the appearance of Chinese patrol boats near a disputed chain of islands in the East China Sea.

Three Chinese fishery patrol boats entered the area early on Wednesday and have since left, reports say. ...



There is gas and oil nearby... Is the "disputed" a diplomatic euphemism for "Wanted"?


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Message 1258929 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 15:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 1258925.

The Chinese have been making expansive moves near all the waters around it -- it is one of the factors binding the other countries to the US. The US may end up with a base in Vietnam -- that would be interesting.

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