Augh, that rotating 3D screensaver making me nausiated. Can we please get an option to make it stand still?

Or better yet, go back to the "2D" screensaver like we had with SETI classic.

3D, while "cool" often looks worse then 2D, its just not as good looking. Its got more potential, but it rarely shines, only with the best of cards and the most thorough of programming can you get a smooth good looking picture (example, that pixie girl nvidia uses) instead of jugged squares (most games).

Anyone else agrees with me on this one?

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Agree with you on the point that we should at least have the option
to go with the 2d version like SETI classic looked like..

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All you have to to is go into your seti preferences, select custom graphics and set the vertical and horizontal rotation to zero.

> All you have to to is go into your seti preferences, select custom graphics
> and set the vertical and horizontal rotation to zero.
>
This is broken in 4.07, and should be fixed in 4.08.

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Actually its still broken in 4.08

I am using 4.08, and I set it to 0 degrees horizontal rotation, and 0 vertical, over 0 seconds for both. And its still rotating. And yes, I did reconnect to seti to download my new preferences.

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Don't know what to tell you Taltamir, all week long when the seti app from alpha was running it obeyed the preferences and did not rotate, while the seti app from the live project rotated wildly. After reading your post, I suspended each unit from the multiple projects until I got to the new version that was downloaded tonight from the live project. Once it was running, clicked on show graphics and the window opened up and it was obeying the preferences and not rotating.

There is another thread on this and Paul Buck has the instructions for it but I am unable to find either now. Anyway below is the way I have mine set and it works fine in 4.08.

Graphics preferences Custom

Text style Pillars

Graph style Surface

Maximum frames per second 30

Maximum CPU % for graphics 10

Graph grow time 10

Graph hold time 5

Transparency of surfaces 0.7

Horizontal oscillation period 0

Horizontal oscillation range 0

Vertical oscillation period 0

Vertical oscillation range 0

Number of stars 0

Speed of stars 0

Color preferences: Rainbow

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> vertical, over 0 seconds for both. And its still rotating. And yes, I did
> reconnect to seti to download my new preferences.

Please check that if you have venue preferences (home/school/work) they are not taking precedence over your general preferences.

Change it in both places, update and then check again.

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> All you have to to is go into your seti preferences, select custom graphics
> and set the vertical and horizontal rotation to zero.

That's a nice way of customizing 3-D graphics. It doesn't give us 2-D graphics. On older hardware, the new display is not as nice as the old graphics, IMO.

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> There is another thread on this and Paul Buck has the instructions for it but
> I am unable to find either now. Anyway below is the way I have mine set and it
> works fine in 4.08.
>

Use the BOINC Owner's Manual's Index and you can find it easy ... :)

But, for those that can't ... :)

Look here

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> Augh, that rotating 3D screensaver making me nausiated. Can we please get an
> option to make it stand still?
>
> Or better yet, go back to the "2D" screensaver like we had with SETI classic.
>
> 3D, while "cool" often looks worse then 2D, its just not as good looking. Its
> got more potential, but it rarely shines, only with the best of cards and the
> most thorough of programming can you get a smooth good looking picture
> (example, that pixie girl nvidia uses) instead of jugged squares (most
> games).
>
> Anyone else agrees with me on this one?

It would be nice if you could choose between 3D or old school 2D.

> Augh, that rotating 3D screensaver making me nausiated. Can we please get an
> option to make it stand still?
>
> Or better yet, go back to the "2D" screensaver like we had with SETI classic.
>
> 3D, while "cool" often looks worse then 2D, its just not as good looking. Its
> got more potential, but it rarely shines, only with the best of cards and the
> most thorough of programming can you get a smooth good looking picture
> (example, that pixie girl nvidia uses) instead of jugged squares (most
> games).
>
> Anyone else agrees with me on this one?
>
I agree, but I took a different option... I just don't look at the screen saver any more.

> > Augh, that rotating 3D screensaver making me nausiated. Can we please get
> an
> > option to make it stand still?
> >
> > Or better yet, go back to the "2D" screensaver like we had with SETI
> classic.
> >
> > 3D, while "cool" often looks worse then 2D, its just not as good looking.
> Its
> > got more potential, but it rarely shines, only with the best of cards and
> the
> > most thorough of programming can you get a smooth good looking picture
> > (example, that pixie girl nvidia uses) instead of jugged squares (most
> > games).
> >
> > Anyone else agrees with me on this one?
> >
> I agree, but I took a different option... I just don't look at the screen
> saver any more.
>
ME TOO!! though i like watching the screensaver once in a while in 3d...

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> > There is another thread on this and Paul Buck has the instructions for it
> but
> > I am unable to find either now. Anyway below is the way I have mine set
> and it
> > works fine in 4.08.
> >
>
> Use the BOINC Owner's Manual's Index and you can find it easy ... :)
>
> But, for those that can't ... :)
>
> Look <a> href="http://homepage.mac.com/pauldbuck/site-boinc/oman-app/app-screen-saver-old-sah.html">here[/url]
>

Thanks Paul. I went to your site and followed all of your instructions, however my graphics are still 3-D and rotating crazily as before. I tried updating several times, and even created separate home preferences, to no avail. I sometimes previously enjoyed watching the 2-D graphics, but like Rookie, now I don't look at the graphics anymore.

> Nevermind. Upon starting the next WU, the changes took effect.
Thanks again. Your "manual" is great, and I appreciate all the work you've put into it for us.

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Even though I reconnected to seti it kept rotating it... However, now, a day after, it no longer does. I can only surmise from that it only takes place once you get a new work unit. Rather then when you manually reconnect (and restart the application).

Anyways its not rotating now... it still looks like blech, and is a waste of system resources. in comparison to the old style 2D graphics... I loved the seti classic screensaver... and it seems most people posting in this thread prefer them aswell. Sometimes more is not better.

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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman!

> Even though I reconnected to seti it kept rotating it... However, now, a day
> after, it no longer does. I can only surmise from that it only takes place
> once you get a new work unit. Rather then when you manually reconnect (and
> restart the application).
>
> Anyways its not rotating now... it still looks like blech, and is a waste of
> system resources. in comparison to the old style 2D graphics... I loved the
> seti classic screensaver... and it seems most people posting in this thread
> prefer them aswell. Sometimes more is not better.
>

more likely u had wait till it was actully coputing a unit that used the 4.08 exe it downloads when u grab wu that need it but dosent get used till its ready to crunch though units .. and if u still had some 4.07 units it woundent worked till they were crunched

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I stopped looking at the graphics because there seems to be a bug when there's multiple projects. I have SETI and CPDN going on my system at home and after it's crunched on both and I click to view the graphics (regardless if it's seti or cpdn) my system locks up hard and it reboots itself.

Now, if I view the graphics before it switches projects, then I can see the graphics fine (which ever project it happens to be on). I also notice that after it works on both projects, the right-click menu item to show the graphics is enabled for both work units.. including the one that is currently paused.

Just seems like it's not keeping track of what it can show the graphics of.

Mark H.

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Hm, the best screensaver for me is switch it off and set power saving to switch display off after let say 5 minutes. It saves energy and display and doesn't disturb me in any way ;o)))

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> Hm, the best screensaver for me is switch it off and set power saving to
> switch display off after let say 5 minutes. It saves energy and display and
> doesn't disturb me in any way ;o)))


My screen saver is set to nothing. I just turn my monitors off when I know I won't be at the computer for an extended period. Other than setting the screen saver to power off, there's no point to setting it to anything else since I'm not at the computer to see it anyway. Also, enabling a screen saver just adds another process for the computer to keep track of.... Check screen saver timer.. is it time yet? If "yes" start screen saver, if "not" don't start it.. check screen saver timer.. etc. LOL Granted, barely any overhead.

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> Now, if I view the graphics before it switches projects, then I can see the
> graphics fine (which ever project it happens to be on). I also notice that
> after it works on both projects, the right-click menu item to show the
> graphics is enabled for both work units.. including the one that is currently
> paused.
>
> Just seems like it's not keeping track of what it can show the graphics of.

This was already the case I believe in v4.07 of Boinc. It was intended to be resoled in v4.08 but it is still an issue. Hope they will fix this in an upcoming version.

Being capable to use "Show Graphics" on a WU that is paused looks to me also as not normal. If you do so, the graphic corresponding to that WU will come up once that WU is crunched again after being paused.

IMO, enabling the "Show Graphics" should be possible only when the WU is in process and not otherwise.