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Message 1206352 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 1:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 1205208.  

Now if only my video cards would not keep dying on me.


A week later I finally got my RMA number from Palit and sent off my GTX-560 this morning.

Today I also will get a new heat sink to put on the i3 so I can get that machine back up and running work.

Sometime this week I will also get a VGA cooler to see if I can get the HD-5830 running once again.


Got the case and VGA cooler today, ran a couple of Milkyway units through the card and the temps were up in the 90's. So that was a no-go there. For general display it is okay as it runs at 50c.

Just have to wait to get the GTX560 back and then I can get that computer RAC back up where it belongs.

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Message 1206370 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 2:50:35 UTC - in response to Message 1206140.  

** elided dangerous yellow**

Also of note, I started my stats spreadsheet back up since we're over on v6 now. aside from stock not reporting how much was blanked, it will provide a good baseline to see how much better the optimization is compared to stock.

As a matter of interest, what percentage of v505 tasks were over 10% blanked? That's the threshold for judging runtime_outlier because of blanking. Going back through saved result files for my case indicated 25% (29 out of 116), but I'm sure you have a larger set to give a better approximation.

That may have an effect on how soon it will be reasonable to run AP v6 anonymous platform. The "Completed" count matters, and that only advances for valid results which are not a runtime_oulier. Once a host running stock has sufficient "Completed" and "Consecutive valid" granted credit should be immune to any craziness in the system related to anonymous platform hosts. Pairs where both are anonymous, who knows?
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Message 1206378 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 3:07:32 UTC - in response to Message 1206370.  

** elided dangerous yellow**

Also of note, I started my stats spreadsheet back up since we're over on v6 now. aside from stock not reporting how much was blanked, it will provide a good baseline to see how much better the optimization is compared to stock.

As a matter of interest, what percentage of v505 tasks were over 10% blanked? That's the threshold for judging runtime_outlier because of blanking. Going back through saved result files for my case indicated 25% (29 out of 116), but I'm sure you have a larger set to give a better approximation.

Since the new rig got built in January, >10% is 20/91 (22%), with 14 100% blanked tasks. I know the app details shows that I've got ~180 tasks done, but I quit doing the spreadsheet when I had significant data loss due to the task pages being turned off.

If I go back to the old rig though..

>10%: 507/1827 (27.75%)
100%: 69/1827 (3.77%)
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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 1206476 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 6:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 1206370.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....
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Message 1206490 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 6:21:48 UTC - in response to Message 1206476.  

Nope, its the bleeding servers that are up the twist:-(
I mean who needs this:-
16/03/2012 05:26:25 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
16/03/2012 05:56:15 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
16/03/2012 06:06:58 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
Hell I know I dont have the app, I know its not in app_info.xml, and I do
NOT have astropulse selected in prefs..

So howz about soneone strangleing the damm routine that keeps posting that irritating crud.

I've spent since around about 04:43hrs sorting out project backoffs and retrying stuck downloads of tasks on 1 rig and attempting to get tasks for the other one, with little success I might add...

I really dont feel particularly happy about 5 hour project backoffs that leave my rigs without S@H work. Or checking on a rig to find its only doing E@H because S@H doesnt send out tasks and when it does, the downloads hang and get backed off for hours..

OK, feel much better now, anovver cuppa coffe and I will cease whinging for at least the time taken to drink it:-)

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Message 1206551 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 11:37:24 UTC - in response to Message 1206476.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody esle can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.
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Message 1206554 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 11:59:53 UTC - in response to Message 1206551.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody esle can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.
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Message 1206612 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 15:51:25 UTC - in response to Message 1206490.  

If I could only fill my queue, these slow times would be more bearable.
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Message 1206615 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 15:56:32 UTC - in response to Message 1206554.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody else can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.

Then why even have the Domain Name for Seti, If no one else can see It beyond the owner?
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Message 1206619 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 15:59:58 UTC - in response to Message 1206615.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody else can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.

Then why even have the Domain Name for Seti, If no one else can see It beyond the owner?

Because it's very useful for the owners of multiple computers, believe me. I can remember the names of my computers far better than I can remember their host ID numbers - as anyone who knows their names can attest.
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Message 1206624 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:06:06 UTC - in response to Message 1206619.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody else can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.

Then why even have the Domain Name for Seti, If no one else can see It beyond the owner?

Because it's very useful for the owners of multiple computers, believe me. I can remember the names of my computers far better than I can remember their host ID numbers - as anyone who knows their names can attest.

Especially since I have one machine that likes to randomly get new host ID's. Which has occurred 3 times in the past week, but had not for the past several months. Also with 5 machines that have all the same hardware it would not be fun to try to sort them out by ID on a regular basis.
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Message 1206625 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:09:32 UTC - in response to Message 1206619.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody else can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.

Then why even have the Domain Name for Seti, If no one else can see It beyond the owner?

Because it's very useful for the owners of multiple computers, believe me. I can remember the names of my computers far better than I can remember their host ID numbers - as anyone who knows their names can attest.

Well how about letting others know the name(s)?
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Message 1206635 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:37:36 UTC - in response to Message 1206625.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody else can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.

Then why even have the Domain Name for Seti, If no one else can see It beyond the owner?

Because it's very useful for the owners of multiple computers, believe me. I can remember the names of my computers far better than I can remember their host ID numbers - as anyone who knows their names can attest.

Well how about letting others know the name(s)?

LOL. No, I don't think so - except that one is called ANONYMOUS, just in case I feel I need to be. The others tend to be named after young ladies who at one time or another were significant in my life. Far too late to get a release from them now - anything up to 40 years too late, sadly.
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Message 1206636 - Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 16:42:58 UTC - in response to Message 1206635.  

Hmmmmmm....
I think Boinc has it wrong. The kitties are NOT anonymous. Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball. Maybe it is thinking about the anonymouses they chase.....


? Your account is showing 9 active hosts.
As to names, those are only visible to the owner of the account, everybody else can only use host IDs.

I've found that while hiding computers is an almost instant action, it can take a few hours before unhiding theme works.

I would tend to think he was making a tongue in cheek reference to the anonymous platform.

Then why even have the Domain Name for Seti, If no one else can see It beyond the owner?

Because it's very useful for the owners of multiple computers, believe me. I can remember the names of my computers far better than I can remember their host ID numbers - as anyone who knows their names can attest.

Well how about letting others know the name(s)?

LOL. No, I don't think so - except that one is called ANONYMOUS, just in case I feel I need to be. The others tend to be named after young ladies who at one time or another were significant in my life. Far too late to get a release from them now - anything up to 40 years too late, sadly.

Well how about a compromise, make names show up optionally, meaning if one wants to hide the PCs names that's ok.
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Message 1206992 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 15:56:03 UTC - in response to Message 1206987.  

So, what's up with the board, and all other SETI pages? They're all so slow to load and update, that it seems as if we're swimming in molasses?


Luckily everything seems OK at the moment. At least for me.
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Message 1207011 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 16:17:34 UTC - in response to Message 1206490.  
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16/03/2012 05:26:25 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
16/03/2012 05:56:15 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
16/03/2012 06:06:58 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
Hell I know I dont have the app, I know its not in app_info.xml, and I do
NOT have astropulse selected in prefs..


I too had this so turned it off. Looks like I didn't need to really. Just a bit of futureproofing...
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Message 1207051 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 16:54:00 UTC - in response to Message 1207011.  

16/03/2012 05:26:25 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
16/03/2012 05:56:15 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
16/03/2012 06:06:58 | SETI@home | Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of AstroPulse v6.
Hell I know I dont have the app, I know its not in app_info.xml, and I do
NOT have astropulse selected in prefs..


I too had this so turned it off. Looks like I didn't need to really. Just a bit of futureproofing...

Yeah I've seen that too, I'm just ignoring this bad programming on somebodys part... And No I couldn't do any better, If I could I would though.
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Message 1207189 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 21:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 1207051.  

Two or three years ago there were complaints that users didn't know why they didn't get any work for a request. Dr. anderson added those messages, but what you get is basically the first found reason, it would be wasteful for the Scheduler to go on looking for other reasons to not send a task. In the case of anonymous platform, whether there's a suitable app happens to be among the first things checked.

The system truly isn't designed for those who know what they're doing, but what is these days?
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Message 1207237 - Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 22:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 1207189.  

Hi Joe,
I dont mind the odd mssg, but the frequency of those messages was a tad irritating, 3 in hour.

Anyway as you will probably have seen from my post to Richard, there is a better message in my view, particularly for those running anon apps.

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Message 1207505 - Posted: 18 Mar 2012, 16:11:25 UTC - in response to Message 1207501.  
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I noticed http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.xml went wonky a while ago and now http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html seems to have a lot of Server Programs missing.

[As of 18 Mar 2012 | 16:10:07 UTC] the main page is OK, but the XML is wonly.

The Server Status XML Updated @ 2012-03-18 16:10:07 UTC is still incorrect. It looks like only the first few lines are there.

<server_status>
  <update_time>1332087007</update_time>
  <daemon_status>
    <daemon>
      <host>carolyn</host>
      <command>BOINC&#160;master&#160;database</command>
      <status>running</status>
    </daemon>
    <daemon>
      <host>jocelyn</host>
      <command>BOINC&#160;replica&#160;database</command>
      <status>running</status>
    </daemon>
    <daemon>
      <host>oscar</host>
      <command>SETI@home&#160;science&#160;database</command>
      <status>running</status>
    </daemon>
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