Hi HAL9000

Don't you just love DOS :-)

If I had camtasia, I'd record the results to show I wasn't imagining the whole thing !

Gary.

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While some people may wish to delete all traces of BOINC from a computer, I'd be very wary about running a script like this which makes in-depth changes to the registry. In particular, as HAL9000 says, the SIDs (security identifiers) and GUIDs may well be specific to your particular installation or a particular version of BOINC: the script will not, in general, be transferrable from machine to machine.

For info, after an uninstall/reboot sequence, it seems that the "Protected Environment" flag is not set as reqested on a reinstall.

I'm very, very surprised to read that. If it's reproducible, we ought to add it to the (long) list of installer bugs - mostly minor - which have been left unfixed for several years pending a change to a new installer technology.

Which installers would you want to check on which OS's?

I do software testing for a living and work in a test lab. I can bang that out in a few minutes on I have the required info.

Based on Gary's first post I'll do a check on 6.12.34 & 7.0.8 in Vista x86 as an admin and as a user seeing which options are enabled be default.

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Based on Gary's first post I'll do a check on 6.12.34 & 7.0.8 in Vista x86 as an admin and as a user seeing which options are enabled be default.

Obviously, it would be good to test v7.0.8/Vista to see if you can reproduce Gary's problem - which I think we can categorise as "BOINC installs in PAE/service mode even when instructed to install in user mode" - maybe only if it was installed deliberately as PAE at some time in the past?

If you are able to reproduce that, could you please re-run the test with v7.0.15, or whatever has bubbled to the top of http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D by then? We know of at least one new-ish bug in these later installers (starting with v7.0.7) - the option to run the BOINC Manager immediately after installation has vanished from the 'finish' page. Rom doesn't know how he did that, and is anxious to fix it - if Gary's bug appears in the same versions, it might give him some new ideas of places to look.

But I've gone through pretty well all the versions from v7.0.8 to v7.0.15 on Windows 7, and it has installed properly in user mode every time.

Afterthought - perhaps the most likely failure mode is to install v7.0.6 or earlier in PAE mode, then try to install v7.0.8 or later in user mode - either as an upgrade (my usual route), or by uninstall/reinstall.

This is the result of a clean Vista x86 OS with a 7.0.8 installation.
Installer defaults were used.
User has admin rights.

2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | No config file found - using defaults
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.8 for windows_intelx86
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Running under account AdminTestMonkey
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         860  @ 2.80GHz [Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5]
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Processor: 256.00 KB cache
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Processor features: <removed to save space in thread post>
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Memory: 3.49 GB physical, 7.16 GB virtual
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Disk: 40.00 GB total, 28.16 GB free
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Local time is UTC -5 hours
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (CAL version 1.4.635, 256MB, 224MB available, 96 GFLOPS peak)
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | No general preferences found - using defaults
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Preferences:
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | max memory usage when active: 1786.75MB
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | max memory usage when idle: 3216.16MB
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | max disk usage: 10.00GB
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | don't use GPU while active
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Not using a proxy
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | This computer is not attached to any projects
2/15/2012 9:21:29 AM |  | Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions

Results for 6.12.34 were the same for protected environment being enabled by default form the installer.

The only time I got the protected environment to be enabled was when I specifically enabled it.

I'll give the protected install with a non protected upgraded over it next and see what I get.

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Here are the results.

StartServiceCtrlDispatcher being called.
This may take several seconds.  Please wait.
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.12.34 for windows_intelx86
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Running as a daemon
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Running under account boinc_master
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         860  @ 2.80GHz [Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5]
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Processor: 256.00 KB cache
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Processor features: <removed to save space in thread post>
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Memory: 3.49 GB physical, 7.16 GB virtual
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Disk: 40.00 GB total, 28.18 GB free
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Local time is UTC -5 hours
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] No usable GPUs found
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Preferences:
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---]    max memory usage when active: 1786.75MB
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---]    max memory usage when idle: 3216.16MB
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---]    max disk usage: 10.00GB
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---]    don't use GPU while active
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---]    suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---]    (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Not using a proxy
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects
15-Feb-2012 10:29:22 [---] Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
15-Feb-2012 10:30:06 [---] Exit requested by user
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] No config file found - using defaults
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.0.8 for windows_intelx86
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Running under account AdminTestMonkey
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         860  @ 2.80GHz [Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5]
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Processor: 256.00 KB cache
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Processor features: <removed to save space in thread post>
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Memory: 3.49 GB physical, 7.16 GB virtual
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Disk: 40.00 GB total, 28.14 GB free
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Local time is UTC -5 hours
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (CAL version 1.4.635, 256MB, 224MB available, 96 GFLOPS peak)
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Version change (6.12.34 -> 7.0.8)
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] No general preferences found - using defaults
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Preferences:
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---]    max memory usage when active: 1786.75MB
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---]    max memory usage when idle: 3216.16MB
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---]    max disk usage: 10.00GB
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---]    don't use GPU while active
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---]    suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---]    (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Not using a proxy
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
Initialization completed
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Running CPU benchmarks
15-Feb-2012 10:30:36 [---] Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
15-Feb-2012 10:31:08 [---] Benchmark results:
15-Feb-2012 10:31:08 [---]    Number of CPUs: 8
15-Feb-2012 10:31:08 [---]    2670 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
15-Feb-2012 10:31:08 [---]    6314 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
15-Feb-2012 10:31:47 [---] Exit requested by user

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Well, no sign of any trouble there - exactly what I would have expected. Many thanks for testing.

I wonder what on earth could have gone wrong on Gary's machine?

Thanks for all the testing you're doing. I didn't anticipate causing so much work :-(

I've had the same issue before with other versions of BOINC. I tried BOINC 7.x this time to see if installing a completely different version would overwrite the previous settings.

I usually also turn off the "allow all users of the machine to administer boinc" option, because most of the machines I use are on a Windows domain network.

Gary.

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Thanks for all the testing you're doing. I didn't anticipate causing so much work :-(

I've had the same issue before with other versions of BOINC. I tried BOINC 7.x this time to see if installing a completely different version would overwrite the previous settings.

I usually also turn off the "allow all users of the machine to administer boinc" option, because most of the machines I use are on a Windows domain network.

Gary.

I'm beginning to wonder whether you might be reading the sense of those checkboxes the wrong way round?

One of the other minor bugs we've been complaining about is that "allow all users" is always defaulted to off, even for people to choose to enable it. For your environment, you should never need to change that one?

Hi Richard.

I hope I haven't mis-understood the PE tick box. I tick it to allow processing while I'm logged out. In the last year-or-so, I've started to untick it on machines where I'm pretty much always logged in, to allow GPU use.

I've always cleared the "allow all users" tick box, thinking that would prevent other users from chaning the BOINC settings.

Gary.

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