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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Meow!!! Do I ever have happy kitties! Actually, the kitties luv shorties....that is, when the servers can keep up with the demand of my fast rigs doing 2 minute WUs. RAC is suffering, as buttloads are going into pending....gonna take a while for the wingys to catch up. Not unexpected, coming back up from a standing start. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Kevin Olley Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 906 Credit: 261,085,289 RAC: 572 |
Actually, the kitties luv shorties....that is, when the servers can keep up with the demand of my fast rigs doing 2 minute WUs. Yep, nothing wrong with shorties, I would do them all day long if the pipe could keep up:-) Pendings are climbing at a fast rate. Kevin |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I do find this current level of wonderfulness perplexing.....not to complain, of course. But here we find ourselves recovering from a long outage, AP is splitting and sending, the bandwidth is maxxed, and yet I am still able to build MB cache. What is making the momentary situation so much better than usual confounds me quite frankly. In a very good sort of way. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65750 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Meow!!! Do I ever have happy kitties! Yeah We took a bit of a drop and then I added a 5th gpu today too. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
cliff Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 |
Hi Hal, Seems work is flowing again now, but I'm getting a load of 'lost WU' reported.. 17/02/2012 08:52:12 | SETI@home | Started upload of 21my11ab.4602.6611.4.10.133_0_0 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 20 new tasks Had loads of 20/27/40 WU sent to my rig.. But also the following.. 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.21603.9238.10.10.132_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.21603.9238.10.10.133_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 23my11ad.23287.6611.7.10.38_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.26568.2934.12.10.107_0 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.21603.9238.10.10.136_0 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 23my11ad.23287.6611.7.10.37_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.26568.2934.12.10.110_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 23my11ad.23287.6611.7.10.41_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.26568.2934.12.10.118_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.26568.2934.12.10.123_1 17/02/2012 08:52:14 | SETI@home | Resent lost task 21jn11af.26568.2934.12.10.120_1 Any ideas whats up here? Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Hi Hal, No problem on your part....... The servers and the bandwidth are both stuffed with activity. If a work request fails due to comms problems, the work has been issued to you by the servers, but your computer never got the message. So, on the next good try the servers know your computers have not gotten the WUs, and so, the resends. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
cliff Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 |
Hi Hal, Thanks for the info... Comms problems abound and its not IMHO all due to everyone and his/her cat trying to obtain WU, did a test from UK to USA[San Franciso] the other day.. result stuttering and delays lost packets etc.. Methinks somewhere between London and Berkeley the pipe is duff:-( How it is for users in the USA I have no idea, but I suspect there will be problems between folks on the west coast and the east of the USA.. Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
Hi Hal, ISP and the routes that are taken to get from point A to point B make all the difference. Some people here in the US, and even on the west coast have issues, whilst others have no problems at all. I have yet to have any of the dropped-packet/routing issues that have plagued the [mostly] international users. The only dropped packets I get are when the pipe is saturated, but everybody suffers packet drop at that point. Presently, the only issue I have is that the .18 download server has a lot of HTTP errors and time-outs. IF you can get a transfer going, it goes less than 2KB/sec. .13 is the good one. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Lionel Send message Joined: 25 Mar 00 Posts: 680 Credit: 563,640,304 RAC: 597 |
so many shorties so little time ... |
LadyL Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 0 |
with 'not requesting new tasks' the question to ask is 'why?'. There can be several reasons, it's not always the stuck downloads from the excessive project backoffs on 6.12.34 (and we [i.e. the BOINC alpha testing community that crunches SETI] have tried to convince DA several times to change that stuid algorithm again, he's being very stubborn about reverting changes he did...) Next time, better try hunting it down. |
cliff Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 |
Hi, quote/ Presently, the only issue I have is that the .18 download server has a lot of HTTP errors and time-outs. IF you can get a transfer going, it goes less than 2KB/sec. .13 is the good one./unquote Humm, I'm getting 74KB/s uploads, and anything from 0.42 to 34KB/s d/loads, with endless retrys and project backoff's. On one 50 WU d/l I had more WU with between 0.01% and 98.nn% in the pipeline than ones that had yet to be attempted.. Having to kick the d/l's backside is a wee bit of a pain in the rear end:-) Notice a load of HTTP errors reported that are causing I 'think' the endless retry for 'nn min nn sec' delays and those 'nn mins' vary from 5 mins to 5 hours... A 5 hour retry delay is plain daft. On the quantity of WU being sent its quite possible that its well over 24 hrs before that actual WU is actually recieved, let alone all the rest, and on some batches there are 75% or more in retry mode.. Damm strange all the uploads are damm fast.. Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! |
Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 |
Presently, the only issue I have is that the .18 download server has a lot of HTTP errors and time-outs. IF you can get a transfer going, it goes less than 2KB/sec. .13 is the good one. "208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu" in the hosts file helped indeed a lot. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65750 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Hi Hal, Yeah Ya just got a few GHOSTS to deal with, Me I have that and two of My cards evidently need cleaning out... Dust Bunnies The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
"208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu" in the hosts file helped indeed a lot. Pardon my ignorance, but WTH is the "hosts" file located ? I can't find it in any BOINC directory. T.A. :-S |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
"208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu" in the hosts file helped indeed a lot. It's a standard operating system file. For Windows (all versions, up to and including 64-bit Windows 7), it's in C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\ For Win7 and (I suspect) Vista, you'll need to run your text editor - notepad will do - in Administrator mode to overcome system file protection. |
Lint trap Send message Joined: 30 May 03 Posts: 871 Credit: 28,092,319 RAC: 0 |
In XP x86 it is in the Windows\system32\drivers\etc directory. My hosts looks like this: # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol. # # For example: # # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host 127.0.0.1 localhost 208.68.240.13 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu # S@H Download Server 208.68.240.18 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu # S@H Download Server 208.68.240.16 setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu # S@H Upload Server 208.68.240.20 setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu # S@H Scheduling Server You also want to be sure to have the 'fixed' libcurl.dll in BOINC' main directory. Version 7.19.7.0 and dated 12/3/09, or newer. IIRC, the broken libcurl.dll file does not properly switch between host locations when one of the download server ip addresses doesn't work. Lt edited... |
Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 |
Presently, the only issue I have is that the .18 download server has a lot of HTTP errors and time-outs. IF you can get a transfer going, it goes less than 2KB/sec. .13 is the good one. No, you can however ping boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu to check if it's working before you click on retry in BOINC. |
cliff Send message Joined: 16 Dec 07 Posts: 625 Credit: 3,590,440 RAC: 0 |
Hi VWB, Those 'lost' WU are becomming a problem, I've had about 7 resends of the same WU's dispite the fact I already have them on my rig. They are chewing up my ISP's data d/l quota with the endless resends of the exact same WU. The amount of space used on my HDD is static since these WU's simply overwrite the already there WU's Dont need ISP quoting 'fair use' at me as well. Someone at S@H HQ needs to sort out the handshaking problem Boinc and the servers seem to have. Dustbunnies:-) Had them shorting out the switch on my main rig PSU had to shell out £80 odd for a new one. Wasnt a total loss tho.. Cleaned it out and used it to upgrade another rig with a below 400 watt psu.. Regards, Cliff, Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt! |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
.....For Windows (all versions, up to and including 64-bit Windows 7), it's in Thankyou Richard and Lint trap. I've added the addresses to the file. I'm still getting back offs but it seems to have made a difference. Download speed has definitely improved. T.A. |
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