I have always disliked when vendors extract things to C:\vendor\whatever I am trying to install/update without asking. For ATI/NIVIDA stuff I have been using winrar or 7zip to extract the drivers where I wanted them and then run their setup form there. If I wanted to use their setup. I'm not sure that would work in this case, but if it helps.

Why some of you guys want to be silly and not use C: for your root OS drive letter is beyond me. :P
I have always hated when people hard code values into things. Like installing windows in the early days where you had to have a floppy as A: to load controller drivers. "Arrrg I don't have a floppy drive in this system! Why can't I use my 32mb flash drive to load the drivers!?" Sometimes I still have to use VFD, virtual floppy drive, to do somethings these days.

Another option you could have tried, that is built into Windows 7, is making a virtual hard drive and mapping it to C:, like you did with your flash drive. Which you can access from Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management. Then either right click Disk Management or use the actions pane.

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I have always disliked when vendors extract things to C:\vendor\whatever I am trying to install/update without asking. For ATI/NIVIDA stuff I have been using winrar or 7zip to extract the drivers where I wanted them and then run their setup form there. If I wanted to use their setup. I'm not sure that would work in this case, but if it helps.

Why some of you guys want to be silly and not use C: for your root OS drive letter is beyond me. :P
I have always hated when people hard code values into things. Like installing windows in the early days where you had to have a floppy as A: to load controller drivers. "Arrrg I don't have a floppy drive in this system! Why can't I use my 32mb flash drive to load the drivers!?" Sometimes I still have to use VFD, virtual floppy drive, to do somethings these days.

Another option you could have tried, that is built into Windows 7, is making a virtual hard drive and mapping it to C:, like you did with your flash drive. Which you can access from Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management. Then either right click Disk Management or use the actions pane.

I don't know about others, But I had a C:\ drive at one time, It was a 150GB WD Raptor with a broken off data cable w/XP Pro x64 on It, So since I needed to replace It and I wanted to go to Win 7 Pro x64, I bought back when I did this nearly a year back, a 300GB WD Velociraptor hdd and I had labeled It as D:\ temporally thinking I could upgrade in place from XP Pro x64 to Vista Business x64, but this did not happen as I was presented with only two choices, reformat or install on a fresh drive, so I installed on a fresh drive instead as I wasn't quite ready to leave XP in this way, starting over that is, So now You know Why My OS boot drive is D:\ and not C:\...

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Why some of you guys want to be silly and not use C: for your root OS drive letter is beyond me. :P

Because I have 4 root OS drives (multiboot):
C: Win 98 (2 GB FAT16 so I can see/manipulate boot files/sectors on this partition even by booting DOS 5.0 from floppy)
D: Win XP 32 (NTFS) - I stay mostly on this OS
E: Vista 32 (NTFS)
F: Vista 64 (will try Win 7 here)

When I installed NVIDIA video drivers for Win XP (on D:) half a year ago this was created:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\191.07\WinXP\English\

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Ok Part 3 is done, 290.53 has been installed, at least the driver was, still no physics or update, they failed to install, 3D I choose not to install.

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So what happended to your C: drive?

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So what happened to your C: drive?

The original one is on a shelf or a box somewhere, lost and out of warranty, the flash drive is serving as C:\ until further notice, I could rename It and D:\ then go into the registry to fix the boot drive to C:\, but that's a lot of work.

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I sent to Jason a new present He wanted, I hope He likes It and that It will help.

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I sent to Jason a new present He wanted, I hope He likes It and that It will help.

Thanks Victor! and it seems to be good news for you :D

Not only has the downclock that showed in your previous benches completely gone, but x41g release Cuda 3.2 is performing as it should, i.e. better than x38g :)

I will note that the VLAR test tasks, not sent by the project to nVidia GPUs at this time, show a drop in performance reflecting the areas I currently have dialled back for refinement. At the remaining 'normal' angle ranges on V6 main, there's a greater than 5% improvement, and V7 performance is a fairly solid 25% improvement, ready for the project to move to new applications sometime in the new year.

Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. With most of the foundations laid & all the worst kinks ironed out, it leaves room to start addressing the last nagging issues (namely banning -12's & improving VLAR performance) with more experienced eyes.

Thanks for the data.

Jason

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I sent to Jason a new present He wanted, I hope He likes It and that It will help.

Thanks Victor! and it seems to be good news for you :D

Not only has the downclock that showed in your previous benches completely gone, but x41g release Cuda 3.2 is performing as it should, i.e. better than x38g :)

I will note that the VLAR test tasks, not sent by the project to nVidia GPUs at this time, show a drop in performance reflecting the areas I currently have dialled back for refinement. At the remaining 'normal' angle ranges on V6 main, there's a greater than 5% improvement, and V7 performance is a fairly solid 25% improvement, ready for the project to move to new applications sometime in the new year.

Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. With most of the foundations laid & all the worst kinks ironed out, it leaves room to start addressing the last nagging issues (namely banning -12's & improving VLAR performance) with more experienced eyes.

Thanks for the data.

Jason

Oh You're quite welcome, I didn't have anything else to do here today on the 25th, so I ran It after the dimm swap, a strange chipset from another world P55. And yeah I get dinged for the -12's when their not My fault, It bad enough that one that was probably going to crash in less than 3 more hours after being worked on for slightly more than 5 hours was something I felt I had to abort, It had around 3 hours to go, maybe.

Oh and I just upgraded to x41g from x38g, If You think It's that good now, then I'll try It again.

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Oh and I just upgraded to x41g from x38g, If You think It's that good now, then I'll try It again.

Yes, your last bench showed that it's a net gain over x38g, for the way you are setup now, So I'd definitely go to it. It's far more stable anyway, even if there was no, or minimal, speed improvement. With those worries, and the 560ti's completely understood, we're looking at a good foundation for more performance oriented work, both Fermi & PreFermi, as well as hoping to be well Prepared for Kepler GPUs, so it's all forward from here.

JAson

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Oh and I just upgraded to x41g from x38g, If You think It's that good now, then I'll try It again.

Yes, your last bench showed that it's a net gain over x38g, for the way you are setup now, So I'd definitely go to it. It's far more stable anyway, even if there was no, or minimal, speed improvement. With those worries, and the 560ti's completely understood, we're looking at a good foundation for more performance oriented work, both Fermi & PreFermi, as well as hoping to be well Prepared for Kepler GPUs, so it's all forward from here.

JAson

Of course shared memory stayed right where It was with 8GB, but things on the x41g front seem to be picking up a head of steam as It were.

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Of course shared memory stayed right where It was with 8GB, but things on the x41g front seem to be picking up a head of steam as It were.

Hi Victor,
nVidia are looking into the no C drive issues anyway, requesting the steps to install Windows without one :D. Could you describe how you achieved the Windows Install with no C Drive ? I'll relay the successful workarounds so they can recategorise as less urgent, though it's fair enough it should really work without one & they seem to want to know how to reproduce.

[Edit:] Looking back through the thread, saw your earlier description & will combine with a plausible scenario from BillBG's setup ;), so no need to answer... relaying info.

Jason

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Of course shared memory stayed right where It was with 8GB, but things on the x41g front seem to be picking up a head of steam as It were.

Hi Victor,
nVidia are looking into the no C drive issues anyway, requesting the steps to install Windows without one :D. Could you describe how you achieved the Windows Install with no C Drive ? I'll relay the successful workarounds so they can recategorise as less urgent, though it's fair enough it should really work without one & they seem to want to know how to reproduce.

[Edit:] Looking back through the thread, saw your earlier description & will combine with a plausible scenario from BillBG's setup ;), so no need to answer... relaying info.

Jason

Fair enough Jason.

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Ok I did find out something more on getting more performance out of these Win 7 drivers, Of course I had to back off of My gpu overclock for the moment(from 632 to 605), I enabled Multi gpu as seen in the second pic and I added an analog dummy plug to the 2nd card, clone won't work as the two outputs aren't equal and I don't to run My PC at 1024x768. I'm thinking of getting some pure DVI dummy plugs made by this place Here. Of course My plate is full and getting 2 of these, much less 1 is beyond My current bank balance or income...

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DVI dummy plugs are almost as easy to make as VGA dummy plugs. Here is someone selling them on eBay for around $7 total:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DVI-DUMMY-PLUG-bitcoin-mining-folding-GPU-compute-/300613297801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fdf2e689

Or you can search the web for info on how to make your own.

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I thought normally is was best to disable SLI as far as crunching goes? So you've seen gains with your new setup?

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DVI dummy plugs are almost as easy to make as VGA dummy plugs. Here is someone selling them on eBay for around $7 total:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DVI-DUMMY-PLUG-bitcoin-mining-folding-GPU-compute-/300613297801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fdf2e689

Or you can search the web for info on how to make your own.

Good find, That will save some cash, right this second I've only $3.95 in the bank and so I need to wait. Making My own, the parts would cost almost as much as spending $10.98 on 2 ready made dvi dummy plugs.

@ Team kizb: In this case I've had to see what would happen If I went against conventional wisdom, I got more oomph, besides I don't actually have a sli cable between the the 1st 2 cards, so It's not totally slied...

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Interesting, I might have to give that a try as I haven't had much luck getting my 295 rig running smoothly yet.

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Interesting, I might have to give that a try as I haven't had much luck getting my 295 rig running smoothly yet.

Another thought, the 295 has an internal sli bridge, but between two cards does not, I'm running on the internal sli bridge while doing multi-gpu, the external needs a cable, I'm still looking for the one I have, but so far I've not seen It. If I don't find It their cheap at least, like around $5-10 before shipping, everything has to be shipped here, even eggs, so I can wait until the 1st. One for a GTX295 would look like this.

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