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Message 1202202 - Posted: 3 Mar 2012, 21:59:54 UTC

Perhaps, a slogan, for a new European Union:

EU

Political Unity

with

Economic Flexibility

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Not wanting to appear too much in favor of complete laissez-faire
capitalism, it still seems that a complete return to individual
countries' currencies would be a welcome relief from the crude
attempts to micro-manage the EU. If the Market is left to decide --
with, perhaps, better safe-guards -- the heads of state can head for
Baden-Baden, et al, for a well-deserved rest.

Times have changed, and no WWIII -- at least, of European origin --
will result in many life-times (at least).

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Message 1202299 - Posted: 4 Mar 2012, 7:36:58 UTC - in response to Message 1202188.

Merkozy up to their tricks again....

two-tier treaty

With this type of event to continue oh his public walkabouts, Sarkozy had better hope he loses the election....

ScaredKozy


I wish I could be as popular as him....I'm really jealous??



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Message 1202337 - Posted: 4 Mar 2012, 13:12:09 UTC

The only good thing that ever came out of France was the ferry back to England.

That was true 50 years ago, and still is today.

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Message 1202462 - Posted: 4 Mar 2012, 20:34:45 UTC - in response to Message 1202337.

U can even escape underwater now.

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Message 1202672 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 20:43:42 UTC

I will say here and now that I have nothing but respect for the French Resistance during WWII. What those people did was truly heroic and many died. My thoughts upon France are meant to represent the last 50 years. What with their dodgy politics, madcap fishermen etc.

I don't like French wine, but that is my personal palate, I also think their cuisine is very over rated and over priced. Other than that it appears we have to continue to be nice to them. (Grrrr)

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Message 1202712 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 21:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 1202672.

Chris, we all know what drove the British to a global empire -- it was the need to get some decent cuisine.

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Message 1202723 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 21:35:33 UTC

Is that why we have so many Indian restaurants?

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Message 1202735 - Posted: 5 Mar 2012, 21:57:31 UTC - in response to Message 1202723.

Well, given a choice between Beef Wellington and Chicken Tikka Masala, what would you choose?

Oh, and I'm sure you realize this, a bunch of those 'Indian' restaurants are actually Pakistani.

Is that why we have so many Indian restaurants?

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Message 1202801 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 0:36:15 UTC - in response to Message 1202735.

Well, given a choice between Beef Wellington and Chicken Tikka Masala, what would you choose?

Oh, and I'm sure you realize this, a bunch of those 'Indian' restaurants are actually Pakistani.

Is that why we have so many Indian restaurants?



Interesting choices, Beef Wellington is likely a French dish ("filet de bœuf en croûte"), Chicken Tikka Masala may well be a dish created in the UK (based on styles from the sub-continent), and has since traveled the world.

Of course the second fermentation process that creates Champagne is a British invention ...
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Message 1202810 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 1:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 1202801.

OK -- how about a choice between bangers and mash and lamb vindaloo.

As to French wine, my preference is more toward an English choice -- hard cider.




Interesting choices, Beef Wellington is likely a French dish ("filet de bœuf en croûte"), Chicken Tikka Masala may well be a dish created in the UK (based on styles from the sub-continent), and has since traveled the world.

Of course the second fermentation process that creates Champagne is a British invention ...

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Message 1202923 - Posted: 6 Mar 2012, 10:28:18 UTC

I have to own up and say that Châteauneuf-du-Pape is a big favourite of mine, but generally I find the French wines too dry and acidic for me. I used to enjoy Argentinian wines which have become quite popular in the last 5 years, but of course I don't buy them now for obvious reasons.

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Message 1203459 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 20:07:00 UTC - in response to Message 1202810.

OK -- how about a choice between bangers and mash and lamb vindaloo.

As to French wine, my preference is more toward an English choice -- hard cider.




Interesting choices, Beef Wellington is likely a French dish ("filet de bœuf en croûte"), Chicken Tikka Masala may well be a dish created in the UK (based on styles from the sub-continent), and has since traveled the world.

Of course the second fermentation process that creates Champagne is a British invention ...



More interesting choices. Sausages (aka bangers) are of pre-historic origin, they were certainly eaten by the Ancient Greeks, while mash is a New World food. Vindaloo got its name from the Portuguese, and if a Vindaloo has potatoes it's likely an anglicized version of the Portuguese named Indian dish. Of course the use of chili peppers is also taken from the New World.

Judging by this site modern cider (in the UK, aka hard cider in the US) is likely of French origin, though that source may be a little biased. This source suggests a different history ...
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Message 1203491 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 21:27:37 UTC
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Message 1203514 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 23:22:03 UTC - in response to Message 1203491.


Maybe that's why I'm hanging around these forums these days. What pub are we all meeting up at on the night before the end? First round is on me.



How about this one? Often used to stop here for my tacho break, great food & good drinks.....

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Message 1203520 - Posted: 7 Mar 2012, 23:49:40 UTC

Guy, still a ways, but closer than the UK -- Victoria, BC -- excellent honest to goodness pubs there.

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Message 1210428 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 20:16:25 UTC

One minute they're moaning about other countries & the next they're forcing said countries to say "YES" when the countries concerned said "NO"

This is the results......

An error

They won't let it happen as they know that if it happens, the EU is finished, so cannot understand all the whinging!
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Message 1210432 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 20:25:05 UTC
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"Greece has time and again explained that it wants to remain in the euro. It has major weaknesses but it is trying to overcome them, be they in the administration or the competitiveness of their business community.

She continued: "It would be a huge political mistake to allow Greece to leave. That is why we will be clear with Greece, we will say 'if you want to be part of a common currency you have to do your homework but at the same time we will always support you'."


The EU will not be finished if Greece decides to leave. Germany will just be pissed off at having given so many billions to support them. You really must stop listening to the media Sirius, it's not doing your health any good :-)))

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Message 1210434 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 20:30:19 UTC - in response to Message 1210432.

"Greece has time and again explained that it wants to remain in the euro. It has major weaknesses but it is trying to overcome them, be they in the administration or the competitiveness of their business community.

She continued: "It would be a huge political mistake to allow Greece to leave. That is why we will be clear with Greece, we will say 'if you want to be part of a common currency you have to do your homework but at the same time we will always support you'."


The EU will not be finished if Greece decides to leave. Germany will just be pissed off at having given so many billions to support them. You really must stop listening to the media Sirius, it's not doing your health any good :-)))


Agree if only one country leaves...but Italy, France, Spain Portugal, Ireland - that's 25% of the EU in trouble - WILL Germany pay for them all?
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Message 1210439 - Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 20:37:26 UTC

WILL Germany pay for them all?


Well, if Merkel and Teacosy want to control Europe, they'll just have to pay up and look big won't they?

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