> > ...I have(chosen)to live out the rest of my days living, and working in
> China
>
> ***Are you, by chance, then a missionary?***
>
> > ...
> > Utzig...hmmmmm....doesn't sound like your typical French Canadian name,
>
> ***A racist commentary or the typical American ignorance of the ethnic
> composition of Canada?***
>
> > maybe you are perchance German, like Guido?
>
> ***No, per chance I am Canadian. I am, however, of Germanic heritage.***
>
> > Oh, excuse me...we really don't know what Guido is....nationality that
> is, but we do however know he is a jerk.
>
> ***Perhaps, perhaps not. However, after the public call for his assassination
> by an American; I find all such commentary suspect - especially when it comes
> from an American.***
>
> > Of course hyprocrisy does not interest you, but I have not been
> hypocritical. Enjoy the weather in Canada,
>
> ***Meaning?***
>
> > which by the way is a beautiful country, I love Quebec....eh.
>
> Thank you but from your above statements I am suspect about your statement of
> 'love'.
>


Hey H, I just reread the thread and no where does anyone much less an American call for Guido's Assassination. Get it correct. You are as always just so silly ......;o)

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

> Hey H, I just reread the thread and no where does anyone much less an American
> call for Guido's Assassination. Get it correct. You are as always just so
> silly ......;o)

The statements were made in another thread, a couple of weeks ago.

pah no angry about this little boys richard.let it come to me .and its for the boys a warm welcome ;-)))
[img]http://www.bstock.com/guidos.gif [/img]

I mean, damn, what's the point about destroying an interesting thread with anti-american or whatever statements (suddenly racism is brought in) and pictures that do not have any connex to the topic.
lets get back to einstein@home and their draft choice.

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B-Roy,

I agree, I just mentioned Guido being a jerk, which of course
many, many, many, many here in this community agree, Guido is
a jerk. Just look at the pics he's posting, when this Utzig guy
jumps on me with his Canadian snobbishness....well you've read
the thread.

@Utzig no I did not read the horror stories about the way
you Canadians treat the Chinese in Toronto, it was first
hand knowledge I receieved when I was still living in America
from a Canadian citizen, not from a Communist controlled newspaper.
My wife happens to be Chinese, so that's enough out of you about
the Chinese....what do you know about China? ever been here? lived
here? no you haven't.... Where did you read about Communist controlled
newspapers, from some socialist rag in Canada?

And yes maybe I am whinning about Guido being selected for E@H, I signed
up in July, and to quote Guido :

Posted: 12 Nov 2004 13:09:01 UTC

In straight order of subscriptions?
i think it is true
i become my account data weeks after register on this page
http://www.physics2005.org/cgi-bin/wyp.cgi?ID=1000

snipped from the E@H message boards.

As someone else said, there is just no justice in the process in which
they selected people for E@H.....

Guido is an infantile jerk......look at his present and
previous posts.

與您性交.....Utzig that's for you and Guido.

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Guys, take the crap to e-mail.

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>
> ÅcÄúÐÔ½».....Utzig that's for you and Guido.

He XI3!

Don't loose you face man!
Some are understanding more than english and words only
*evil grins*

As a consolation :
nobody can be 24hours a day at the same time to all projects "together";-)

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> > Sorry Utzig am not a missionary, I am a computer helpdesk technician.
> > Actually, America is the most ethnically diverse country on earth
>
> ***Beep, not quite true. In numbers, yes - in percentages no - Canada has more
> immigrants than the U.S. does in percentages but the U.S. has more in
> total.***

Funny you mention that. I just read this article about a lot of Americans checking out the immigration site of Canada.

I also checked on the CIA's site what growth rate your country has compared to that of the U.S.A. It is funny to see they both sit on 0.92%. The number includes births, deaths and migration.

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whats the matteri you gotta no respect boys ;-)))

Guido - How's life in the mental asylum? ;o))) Es Gut ja? Keep up the good work! ;o)))

X13 - I like you points, but why let yourself get wound up by that french (canadian) jerk? He obviously has SOOOO many chips on his shoulder, you could make any point (using your right to free speech) and he would make it into a racist / agist / sexist / French-ist argument - just ignore the twat!

Utzig - Try smoking some weed - it might make you lighten up a bit - jeeze man - have you got some issues or what???

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> @Utzig no I did not read the horror stories about the way
> you Canadians treat the Chinese in Toronto, it was first
> hand knowledge I receieved when I was still living in America
> from a Canadian citizen, not from a Communist controlled newspaper.

***One person tells you something that agrees with your prejudices and it is then fact for a nation? Fool.***

> My wife happens to be Chinese, so that's enough out of you about
> the Chinese....what do you know about China? ever been here? lived
> here? no you haven't.... Where did you read about Communist controlled
> newspapers, from some socialist rag in Canada?

***Yes I have visited China and I have no desire to live there.***

> And yes maybe I am whinning about Guido being selected for E@H, I signed
> up in July,...

***Better he than you.***

> 與您性交.....Utzig that's for you and Guido.

Why are you such a coward to write in in English - or are you displaying more of your infantile temper?

Better yet, I'll e-mail what you wrote to the consulate of the People's Republic of China here in Calgary and ask for a translation.

Try this

The second hit should give you a hint.

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Aloha, Uli

> Try <a> href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&q=%E8%88%87%E6%82%A8%E6%80%A7%E4%BA%A4&btnG=Suche&meta=">this[/url]
>
> The second hit should give you a hint.

Thank you Herr Metzner. I shall now make an appointment with the Consul General to discuss the matter.

Ich weiß nicht ob alle deutsch sprachige Mitglieder den Haß eine gewiße Gruppe Amis mitstimmen aber ich finde es ist genug. Ob es gegen Fronzosen, Deutschen, Kanadier, Araber, Moslemgläubig - es ist für mich genug diese andauern Haßschrift was mann in Seti von mehre Amerikaner und ein Paar Englander liest. Den Mortswunsch gegen Herr Waldenmeier vor mehre Wochen und den NAZI anschrei gegen Petit Soleil vor mehre Monate zeigt es wird nie bei den ändern ohne da gegen zu kämpfen.

Schade es jetzt in diese Forum statt findet weil es öfter in Café Seti passiert.

The Einstein web site states that the invites were sent out in the order that they received the signup request.

I got an invite....I think I signed up late 2003 or early 2004...can't remember that far back....but it must have been along time ago....I received account #139.

> One of the benefits of a democracy is the right of free speech/expression -
> within certain limits. As Einstein@Home is based in the U.S.A.; I doubt if
> they are too concerned over it especially as it is alpha phase and needs to be
> tested to the extreme. Mr. Waldenmeier, I am certain, is quite willing to
> assist in this.

Actually, democracy doesn't really have much to do with the right to free speech or expression.

Also, the 1st Amendment does *NOT* grant Guido the right to post crap on a project's board just because the project is hosted in the US. While you didn't outright say it did, so many individuals make that mistake. The 1st Amendment keeps the government from censoring you, *not* other entities. Berkeley and the folks running E@H would be well within reason to filter the dude completely out. If it were I running these projects, I'd have his entire netmask banned at the firewall level.

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Rob

@athlon Rob
what,your are little boy ,take care ,it gives peoples they have more power
you can think.allways remember investigation continue...axpr.net

> If it were I running these projects, I'd have his entire
> netmask banned at the firewall level.
>
Fortunately, you are not running these projects.

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------- Tom Gutman

> Also, the 1st Amendment does *NOT* grant Guido the right to post crap on a
> project's board just because the project is hosted in the US. While you
> didn't outright say it did, so many individuals make that mistake. The 1st
> Amendment keeps the government from censoring you, *not* other entities.

More to the point, the First Amendment does *NOT* grant the right to a forum, you still have to find your own.

While I defend Guido's right to spew forth whatever wishes, he's got www.guidowaldenmeier.de as a forum for whatever he'd like to do -- he's paying the bill there.

The First Amendment also does not guarantee an audience.

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Disclaimer

Any resemblance between the stereotypes described here and any individual, living or dead, fictional or real, is entirely coincidental. No animal should feel hurt in the making of this article. We release this treatise into the public domain with no rights deserved.


The Book of Trolls

______ Newcomers to these newsgroups will encounter the word "troll" used as a noun or a verb. As a noun, the word has a technical meaning which falls well short of encompassing the creature's true magnificence. This "de jure" definition describes an individual who enters a newsgroup, makes one or more provocative statement(s), and then departs. Therein lies the rub. In reality, for better or worse, the genus found here is non-migratory.

______ To fully understand the difference between the classical definition and the Realpolitik of "trolling" (i.e. a verb in gerund form describing the unbearable lightness of being a troll) we need to understand the difference between the vulgar English expression "sh*t disturber" and the French word "enmerdeur". The very nature of the phrase "sh*t disturber" connotes someone who stirs up a pre-existing cauldron. An enmerdeur, on the other hand, creates the (ahem) milieu and then immerses everyone into it. This more closely describes the vital role that these proud beasts (known affectionately as "trolls") perform. Their other crucial function is to act as fodder or "liquidity" for our newsreaders. Without trolls, we might have to wait for days between posts. Seeing no messages on our readers, we might wonder if our news service is failing to make regular updates. At the slight cost of scrolling through numerous bleatings, we will never again be worried by an absence of contributions. Yes, we may still have to wait long days between rational posts. But the troll serves much the same evolutionary purpose as the second hand on a wrist watch. For this alone, we should all be grateful.

______ Any view of trolls should spark another form of gratitude as well. Indeed, it is difficult to avoid regarding one of these beasts and saying to ourselves:
______ "There but for the wrath of God go I."

______ The "official" definition of "troll" misses the mark in suggesting that the troll is strictly an "agent provocateur". In truth, a troll can be more megalomaniac than instigator. Long into the night they will proclaim their own genius and integrity in sharp contrast to the stupidity and depravity of others. Trolls are unique among mammalians in that males are not the only ones headbutting and buttheading in this manner. Trolls come in both genders, which may or may not explain their proliferation. (Little is known about their mating rituals and, oddly enough, no scientific studies on this subject are scheduled. Suspicions that they may interbreed with humans are as yet unsubstantiated.)

______ All trolls share the implacable belief that the hours, days, months and years devoted to insulting each other are wisely invested. Surely any reader seeing such brilliant time management will be forced to recognize the posting troll's individual intellectual superiority. Note: Humans are warned not to challenge this precious article of faith. Approaching the Shroud of Turin with a blow torch would be far safer.
Categories

______ Trolls have genera and phylum but no class, per se. None whatsoever, in fact. Trolls come in three varieties:

IntellecTroll:

______ This is the most literate version, identified by their ability to write in full sentences and, at the very least, use a spell checker. The IntellecTroll has read "everything worth reading" without, of course, understanding or benefiting from any of it.

______ Their patron saint is Ezra Pound. They consider Alan Price a heretic for saying:

______ "If knowledge hangs around your neck like pearls instead of chains you are a lucky [one]."

SOCIALIZATION: IntellecTrolls are in continual conflict with Parole Trolls, but are usually clever enough to avoid provoking the Patrol Troll.

Parole Troll:

______ This, your garden variety troll, is incapable of coherent thought, speech or writing. The etymology of their name remains in dispute. Some argue that it is a reference to this group's difficulty with expression ("parole" being French for "word"). Others argue that the often sexist, racist and/or intimidating behavior of these brutes suggests recent and regular incarceration.

______ Their patron saint is Don Cherry. They consider Alan Price a heretic for knowing that "knowledge" has a "d" in it.

SOCIALIZATION: None.

Patrol Troll:

______ Each newsgroup has its own resident "watchdog" troll. Sometimes known as "PaTrolls" (but never "PeTrolls"), their rare good moods are marked by condescension rather than outright savagery. The job of this Cerberus is to bark and expose the presence of incoming trolls. This requires keen senses, since invading trolls often attempt to disguise themselves as humans. Inbred egomania usually betrays the intruder. Otherwise, just as Dracula's failure to cast a reflection in a mirror exposes him, the newcomer troll's inability to employ self-effacing humor will alert the vigilant Patrol Troll.

______ Their patron saint is Johnny Cash. These watchdogs consider Alan Price a heretic for bringing up the subject of chains around necks.

SOCIALIZATION: Patrol Trolls are "lone wolves" but are domesticated to the extent that they co-exist well with humans. The last known attack by a Patrol Troll on a human being came when the latter opened an offering of a notorious Parole Troll and then complained at great length about how (gasp!) offensive it was. Sympathy for the victim was underwhelming. Indeed, when concerned citizens demanded that "it be put to sleep" many assumed that the suggestion referred to the human involved. This option became moot when it was discovered that the person was already technically brain dead.

______ Patrol Trolls maintain a cold war peace with most IntellecTrolls. Parole Trolls form their diet.
The Care and Handling of Trolls

______ There is really only one rule regarding the proper care and handling of these special creatures:
• 1. Ignore them.
______ Unfortunately, just as some of us have trouble "seeing the forest for the trees", many find this commandment too unsophisticated to accept as a panacea. Hence, we have added four more commandments, listed here in the fervent hope that no astute reader will notice that they are simple restatements of the first:
• 2. Do not "feed" (i.e. insult) the trolls.
• 3. Do not mention the name of a troll.
• 4. Do not comment on the works of a troll.
• 5. Do not read the posts of a known troll.
______ Know this: If you respond to a troll, you lose. That's right. It doesn't matter how original, witty or devastating your retort, the troll wins merely because you have responded. "Dem's da rulz!"
In Conclusion

We hereby submit for your perusal our humble zoological treatise on this fascinating species. It expresses our desire that we will be able to experience this brilliant fauna in all of its natural glory for years to come and to pass on this appreciation to our children.
Signed,

The Committee