That may be, But the MSI version is better as It's more filled out and is newer as it's still being updated, Me I create a shortcut and copy that to the startup folder and I set the shortcut to start minimized and the MSI program starts when My PC does and at the settings that I set It at, no more, no less.

My post was in response to tbret

For me it appears that he hesitates to try/use MSI Afterburner and/or EVGA Precision
I just try to convince him that both are generic and stable utilities which can be used for any brand graphics card (and not only cards made by MSI or EVGA)


More screenshots that show the similarity of
MSI Afterburner and EVGA Precision and that they are based on RivaTuner:

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I'll try MSI-Afterburner, again, cause temps rose so quick, although I used the lowest Core/Shader and Memory speed, voltage can't be changed, maybe it's the GTS250, lacking the proper sensors? Or it has todo with later drivers,
my 9800GTX had serious troubles and ran far too hot, >/=107C.
But, a 460 would fit, but PSU is 350Watt, which is a bit (too) low.

Both FERMIs run at default clock, only 480 5% (731MHz)higher with SmartDoctor.
These both run hotter, 470=82C and 480=80C.

Also used on the 2 ATI 5870s, which are setted to 894MHz, 850MHz stock.
These are also made to run hot, but I don't want them to even reach 90C.
(5870 starts by default 104C, to drop max. speed.) But 2 MB WUs don't
push them over 74C, not even Milkyway or Collatz C.

But a too high frequency, too little voltage, big room for errors.
As Josef already pointed out, stabillity should be the primairy concern.
I'd rather have my rig turning in 60 valid tasks as 160 errors(which can go very
fast) or inconclusives.

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You are misunderstanding. I'm not hesitating to use Afterburner. I've had little time and wanted the doublecheck that "turbo boost" was downclocking the card. After I assured myself of that, I shut the system off. I will download afterburner when I get back to town and can afford a few hours to devote to playing with that setup.

You know, it's just weird that my card was running at 93% + GPU use, was staying below 65 degrees C, seems to be completing WUs instead of dumping them, and yet has all those errors.

I know that old board /RAM / and CPU combination can't be stressing the card... if anything it would be throttling it. Also, interesting (to me anyway), that's an old Phenom 9550 and with a GTX 460 in it the combination was doing 18k-ish RAC. The same 460 in an Athlon II x 2 seems to be running rings around itself on the Phenom, the other difference being Phenom Vista 64, and the Athlon on Windows 7 64-bit.

I know Vista was not good in a lot of ways, but can that difference be attributable to that, or the CPU clock speeds (2.2GHz vs 3.0GHz) or RAM speeds (I doubt it)?

It looks like the Athlon will be giving me 10-15% more RAC even though there are two fewer cores crunching along.

Soon that system will be upgraded to an Athlon II x 4. I'll be interested in seeing how that compares. (I already own that CPU and will swap computers with it, i'm not spending more money on an Athlon II, which I think would be a questionable investment with Phenom x4 prices where they are. Just an opinion.)

Monday evening could be a lot of fun!

It has nothing to do with Vista, thats for sure.
Look at my host, i´m running Vista as well and 15000 RAC is no problem with my HD 5850.
And your 560 Ti is much faster.
You just need to get this card under control.

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Let's see what happens.

New motherboard, CPU, RAM; GPU voltage "kicked up a notch" (as Emeril might say).
I'm going to go kick it up another notch here in a minute. I just wanted to get some to report before I got too nutty with the voltages.

Yes, I have left it in its factory overclock condition. Before I goose the voltage again I will probably slow the card.

GPU temp up, but under 70C.

Looks like some of them are "inconclusive" but I'm not convinced by that because sometimes there are two wingmen and they don't agree, either. Some of them are validating and none of them are "erroring-out."



EDIT: anything after 23:53 will be at 1.1v & 1800MHz shader; 69C

Let's see if voltage will do it, first.

Let's see if voltage will do it, first.

Fingers crossed, but 1.1v is looking pretty good.

Still have mostly 69C temps, but the fan is having to run at 85%. That doesn't bother me except that I don't like that I can't drop the temp no matter what I do.

This may be a job for yet another case fan blowing in on the card.

But I shouldn't *have* to bump the voltage. The manufacturers either ought to do that when they build 'em, or just not overclock them at all. I haven't had-to on my other 560ti or factory overclocked 460s.

Update -

With the servers down it will be a while before I really know anything for certain; BUT...

I kept getting memory dumps on the computer with the questionable card in it.

So I downclocked the card, lowered the voltage to 1v to see if that would help.

Of course not - one of my brand new sticks of RAM is bad.

So... on it goes, but I have not noticed any more problems with either the card downclocked or the voltage set to 1.1v. Either way seems to be ok.

But I'm out of work, so it will be a while before I feel comfortable declaring anything as a certainty.