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Message 1150512 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 19:05:19 UTC - in response to Message 1150495.

Poison? lol. It doesn't work like that...


So you're saying that if the raw data files are stored on user's PCs, that no malicious person out there would even think of modifying them?

And as far as the "saturated internet connection" for the volunteers is concerned: unless you are streaming pron 24/7 I am not sure what you are doing to saturate yours. Even if you are torrenting...


No, you misunderstand what I said. I said SETI@Home's connection is saturated, or is often too close to the saturation level to even contemplate storing raw files on user's PCs.

Look, may it be p2p or dfs, either is probably not the best of ideas regarding our current situation - nor one I would use for data retention on this sort of project... initially. Having said that, if at all possible I would be doing this before I start shipping my primary data physically... even down the street.

But by having some sort of stream out of any of the antennae to people in the project or the volunteers, it would be a step in the right direction to where the future of the world's corporations and companies are going.

http://www.fastcompany.com/1763349/20-years-of-data-storage-visualized
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2389276,00.asp

Money is said to be a hindrance... Sure, but I am not so sure the argument on the size of the pipe needed can be given till an accurate monthly amount of stored data is given. Bids for the bandwidth required to transmit said data over the course of a month will, in turn, follow. I would imagine that if looked at correctly, there would be the possibility of data transmission as a primary. Especially in today's world where the Mb is getting cheaper and cheaper via the demand.

All I know is that eventually all of it will be pushed (via dfs or equivalent) to a cloud or private data center. It's not going to happen tomorrow so the question posted here was asking, more simply, what can we do for the interim? We are the volunteers here..


When it comes to scientific work or data integrity, controls and environment are far more important than what the rest of the world is doing.

Remember, SETI@Home is not a business, so typical business ideas and technologies need not apply.

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Message 1150529 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 19:31:13 UTC - in response to Message 1150494.

Several data drives did arrive from Arecibo today. These files are now being moved into the pipeline.

Jeff, thanks for the news!


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Message 1150614 - Posted: 9 Sep 2011, 23:29:46 UTC

good 2 know just setup 2 more pcs too help with work load sincerly chris
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Message 1150768 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 8:46:23 UTC

But where are the Kepler Field WUs? (May 7 May 10 May 15 May 16 May 20 May 22 )

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Message 1150798 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 12:23:22 UTC

Hello,
when the data will return active again?........from a lot hours I receive "download hold due project!" I have powered off all my cpu!

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Message 1150814 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 12:52:15 UTC - in response to Message 1150798.

Work seems to be flowing now. Looking really good here. Thanks guys!
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Message 1150844 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 14:41:07 UTC

Thanks for the data.

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Message 1150853 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 15:23:37 UTC

<Wall-e>Give me data</Wall-e>

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Message 1150904 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 19:04:24 UTC

Just got 346 new workunits. Most of them were recorded within the last 2 months. Nice to see fresh data come in. Good work guys!
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Message 1150955 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 21:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 1150904.

Just got 346 new workunits. Most of them were recorded within the last 2 months. Nice to see fresh data come in. Good work guys!

Considering the ALFA receiver was off the telescope from the end of July until a few days ago, that is indeed the most recent data.

The Arecibo Legacy Fast ALFA survey began their fall observing campaign yesterday, see http://egg.astro.cornell.edu/alfalfa/scheds/asttimes/a2010_schedfall11.txt. That's excellent data for S@h analysis, and the next shipment from Arecibo should have a lot of it.
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Message 1150963 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 21:54:25 UTC

My new batch of work ALL resulted in computation errors.
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Message 1150964 - Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 21:56:48 UTC - in response to Message 1150963.

My new batch of work ALL resulted in computation errors.

Have a read of the S@H Enhanced v6.04 thread over in Number Crunching.

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Message 1151147 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 16:14:08 UTC

Hi --- I just added a newish computer to my account and it seems to be unable to download any work units. With all the good news about wu's being distributed, I would have thought I'd have gotten some; help?

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Message 1151153 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 16:24:10 UTC - in response to Message 1151147.

Hi --- I just added a newish computer to my account and it seems to be unable to download any work units. With all the good news about wu's being distributed, I would have thought I'd have gotten some; help?

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The download pipe is Maxed out, If you abort all your transfers you'll never get them downloaded, and now you have a Max tasks per day of 1 for that app, have patience.

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Message 1151156 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 16:32:56 UTC - in response to Message 1151153.

My bad --- I mistakenly thought that having several dozen wu's in "downloading" mode for days on end and that SETI was frozen. So, obviously now I can only wait till things stabilize. Thank you for your help !!!

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Message 1151159 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 16:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 1150111.
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In an attempt to push some older unanalyzed files through the pipeline we encountered data that could not be successfully preprocessed or split. This has resulted in work distribution going to near zero. We are currently transferring newer files from off site storage and soon will be receiving a disk shipment from Arecibo. Once these data are on hand work distribution will pick up.



Oh no, not more data....

If ET isn't in the data from the last 12 years, then I don't think he will be found in even more data.

What we need is less of data, and more of ET :-)
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Message 1151168 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 17:12:44 UTC - in response to Message 1151159.

Data didn't like any of the ET's that he found, so he exterminated them all.


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Message 1151191 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 18:38:46 UTC - in response to Message 1151159.
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In an attempt to push some older unanalyzed files through the pipeline we encountered data that could not be successfully preprocessed or split. This has resulted in work distribution going to near zero. We are currently transferring newer files from off site storage and soon will be receiving a disk shipment from Arecibo. Once these data are on hand work distribution will pick up.



Oh no, not more data....

If ET isn't in the data from the last 12 years, then I don't think he will be found in even more data.

What we need is less of data, and more of ET :-)


That all depends...are they sending a constant signal? How about one that only lasted for so long before they stopped transmitting? Maybe we missed the signal, then again, it may not have gotten here yet. We just need to crunch the right work units that are pointed at the right part of the sky at the right time. That's a lot to comprehend. Even lotteries don't have such bad odds.
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Message 1151248 - Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 21:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 1150116.

I can understand people screaming for more wu's. First of all, why have people joining teams if not for some healthy competition. Yes, the most important goal is to find ET. Everyone understands that, but a little fun and competition is, in my opinion, a very healthy incentive to donate more computer time. It is also fun to compete against your team members. My rac has fallen so far that it won't be too long that i'll be in negative numbers. I am still falling also. I hope this problem gets resolved soon so I can get back into the game and take an interest again in the competition. No matter what tho, I will not lose sight of the ultimate goal.

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Message 1151289 - Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 0:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1151248.

Sure, people like to compete. But the important thing to remember is that SETI never promised to provide work 24/7, let alone 8/5.

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