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Message 1141942 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 3:47:02 UTC

This thread just gets weirder and weirder. Any further input from me would be a collossal waste of time

Jeezy Peezy Mr. DeWoody, it's not like anything said here will be cited.

I know of Many Universes a person with such strict character can go to Waste As Much Time as there is possibly to Waste and it will not impune on Your Time At All.

You can Be Bounced there and back and not one nanosecond will be used up on your Telomeres. Your Mind will not even belabour the Passage.

By all means, any input considered a Waste of Time should not be placed here.

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Message 1142007 - Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 10:07:36 UTC

Sorry if any offense was taken. I guess I was taking things too seriously. But the thread has taken a direction that I'm not following that well. There I went and did it again. Well it's my time to waste.
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Message 1142611 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 15:16:53 UTC

Don't worry Bob. It is a well known fact that Darwins Barnacles evolved in a non-parallel direction to the Galapagos Finches. Darwin gave up following them in 1845 and left them to their own devices, with the results we see today.

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Message 1142703 - Posted: 19 Aug 2011, 19:11:00 UTC

Philip Jose Farmer's RiverWorld Series deals with The Resurrection of the Dead.

To Your Scattered Bodies Go is the first installment.

It won The Hugo Award in Many of The Universes.

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Message 1143032 - Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 11:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 1142703.

Resurrection of the dead?? It's been a long time since that's been done well.

Perhaps my old girlfriend Sally would disagree !!

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Message 1143322 - Posted: 21 Aug 2011, 5:34:01 UTC

One can only hope on his 62nd birthday that resurrection is in the cards. I just don't want this body again.
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Message 1165086 - Posted: 24 Oct 2011, 18:51:51 UTC

Just found out one of my favorite Science Fiction Authors has died: Kage Baker.

She Passed On way back in Early 2010 from The Mean C at age 57.

Thanks Kage for The Great Imaginative Works.

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Message 1165268 - Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 11:06:29 UTC

I see on the news that it is the anniversary of the fraud conviction of TV evangelist Jim Bakker. He was sentenced to a few decades in prison for fraud. What preacher, priest, minister, etc is not also guilty of fraud. If I were Billy Graham, Falwell, the Pope, etc I would be also sweating a fraud conviction my self.

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Message 1165284 - Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 13:01:11 UTC - in response to Message 1165268.

I see on the news that it is the anniversary of the fraud conviction of TV evangelist Jim Bakker. He was sentenced to a few decades in prison for fraud. What preacher, priest, minister, etc is not also guilty of fraud. If I were Billy Graham, Falwell, the Pope, etc I would be also sweating a fraud conviction my self.

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Message 1165299 - Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 14:02:10 UTC - in response to Message 1165284.

I see on the news that it is the anniversary of the fraud conviction of TV evangelist Jim Bakker. He was sentenced to a few decades in prison for fraud. What preacher, priest, minister, etc is not also guilty of fraud. If I were Billy Graham, Falwell, the Pope, etc I would be also sweating a fraud conviction my self.

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Sounds hypocritical coming from a guy that judged people all the time.

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Message 1165300 - Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 14:04:51 UTC - in response to Message 1165299.

I see on the news that it is the anniversary of the fraud conviction of TV evangelist Jim Bakker. He was sentenced to a few decades in prison for fraud. What preacher, priest, minister, etc is not also guilty of fraud. If I were Billy Graham, Falwell, the Pope, etc I would be also sweating a fraud conviction my self.

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Sounds hypocritical coming from a guy that judged people all the time.

Jesus never judged anyone and pardoned all sinners. He pardoned also those who killed him. It seems that you have never read the Gospels. Read them.
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Message 1165379 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 0:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 1165300.
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I see on the news that it is the anniversary of the fraud conviction of TV evangelist Jim Bakker. He was sentenced to a few decades in prison for fraud. What preacher, priest, minister, etc is not also guilty of fraud. If I were Billy Graham, Falwell, the Pope, etc I would be also sweating a fraud conviction my self.

Do not judge if you don't want to be judged (Christ).
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Sounds hypocritical coming from a guy that judged people all the time.

Jesus never judged anyone and pardoned all sinners. He pardoned also those who killed him. It seems that you have never read the Gospels. Read them.
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What would there be to forgive unless there is a judgement made beforehand? It seems you have never really understood what you read. Learn to do so.

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Message 1165401 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 2:31:35 UTC - in response to Message 1165300.
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Jesus never judged anyone and pardoned all sinners. He pardoned also those who killed him. It seems that you have never read the Gospels. Read them.
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Tullio,
I never noticed you quoting from the Bible before! Have you had a change of heart? ......Its a good thing Tullio, the Bible is a good set of rules for humanity. I'm glad to hear you quoting from the Bible. And your Italian too, home of the Roman catholic church for the last 2,000 years.

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Message 1165403 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 2:42:03 UTC - in response to Message 1165401.

the Bible is a good set of rules for humanity.


Which rules are we referring to? The ones about selling your daughter into slavery? Or the ones about stoning disobedient children to death? Or the ones about how a man should not sleep with another man? Or the ones that talk about putting all non-believers to death?

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Message 1165406 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 3:01:36 UTC - in response to Message 1165403.

Or the ones that talk about putting all non-believers to death?

That seems to be a reoccurring theme in monotheistic religions. Are monotheistic religions so weak by nature that they need to silence everyone else?

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Message 1165422 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 6:58:51 UTC

I intervened only because I saw the Pope being insulted as a fraudster. To Johnney, I did not quote the Bible but the Gospels.To anybody wishing to learn something about Jesus I advice to read a book by a Jew,Robert Aron. Les annees obscures de Jesus, 1960 Editions Bernard Grasset, Paris (Diacriticals omitted). Yes I am a Christian, like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, S.J.
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Message 1165464 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 10:14:14 UTC

Romans 12 Says Everything needed to be said.

To Wit:

Romans 12

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;

8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.

14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Message 1165479 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 11:35:15 UTC

God and the Devil are the same thing as they are two faces of the same coin.

We live in a world od duality, day/night, Love/hate, Life/death.

The bible is just another book written by man, some of the things there are good messages, others well we can argue here until the end of times.

For me GOD as a place in the creation of the universe, not this one, but all universes, as per the new theories of cosmology, it seems that there are a endless number of universes.

Also we live in a world, or universe where are different levels of consience, and ever single person in the world has it's own version of reality.

More important, than the message in all holy books of the world, or if there is life beyond death, if we are going to reeincarnate,or if our immortal soul has the weight of 21gr. Is the fact that we need to be more tolerant to our fellow man, and that we should try to improve ourselves everyday and somehown love others as you love yourself.

There is always room for improvement, as it's the largest room in your house.

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Message 1165483 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 11:58:38 UTC - in response to Message 1165422.

I intervened only because I saw the Pope being insulted as a fraudster.


Is the Pope above criticism? Those who believe the whole of religion is a sham would also believe those condoning it are fraudsters. It's a legitimate view even if you don't agree with it.

To anybody wishing to learn something about Jesus I advice to read a book by a Jew,Robert Aron. Les annees obscures de Jesus, 1960 Editions Bernard Grasset, Paris (Diacriticals omitted). Yes I am a Christian, like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, S.J.


Unless this person knew Jesus personally, it's doubtful that anything written is an actuality. As Penn Jillette said [paraphrased], "In today's day, the day of information when we have literate people, they can't even seem to agree on the ingredients to Elvis Presley's favorite chicken 30 years after his death. What makes anyone think that a Bible written 600 years after the death of a person they believe to be the Christ is even remotely accurate when most people of the time were illiterate and records were not well kept?"

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Message 1165492 - Posted: 26 Oct 2011, 13:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 1165483.

Unless this person knew Jesus personally, it's doubtful that anything written is an actuality. ...

For Jesus the man? Or Jesus the Myth?

Note that the myth developed and evolved over many years. Note also that it was his family brother, James, who was spared who then carried on the teachings and politics...


The rest, is all in the 'interpretation'.

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