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Message 1129909 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 1:57:55 UTC

No, i'm not posting any pictures. Simple as that.

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Message 1129939 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 4:30:42 UTC

Ah it is that pesky disappearing ink isn't it?
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Message 1129947 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 5:35:53 UTC - in response to Message 1129939.  

Ah it is that pesky disappearing ink isn't it?

Yea, that it Gary! You caught me out!

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Message 1130000 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 9:54:55 UTC
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Lads,

He is just Foucaulting around.

Otherwise these Seti and Science boards would be Moribund. Incredible !! With the hundreds of thousands of Seti crunchers we can go days without any responses to people's queries and posts. Are we all illiterate or do we leave the fun and work of thinking and curiousity to a small band of brothers.
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Message 1130053 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 15:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 1130017.  
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Sorry Johnney we're not buddies!

From your hostility i can only assume that i was hitting too close to home.
The 'Egyptian Book of the Dead' meets the criteria of being written on Papyrus in Egyptian style hieroglyphics,
and having had a readership of 40 million throughout history.
From this it follows that you are somehow interpreting the 192 identified magic spells within the text of the book as being analogies to current problems in science, and that you've solved them.
Mix in a bit of Christian Mythology and you've got a winning formula.

You should have no trouble publishing your findings.
You just need to pray a little harder/longer.

:o}

Ahhhhhh.... your too clever for me. You got it!! Its the 'Egyptian Book of the Dead' alright. You must be a mind reader, how did you know? You even guessed i was adding in some Christian Mythology to spruce it up a bit. Your good you are!

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Message 1130074 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:02:43 UTC - in response to Message 1129947.  

Ah it is that pesky disappearing ink isn't it?

Yea, that it Gary! You caught me out!

Because you forgot the chemistry section where is was clearly explained how to make any disappearing ink visible.

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Message 1130084 - Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 16:22:05 UTC
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Guido.Man,
That wasn't a Leprechaun, that was me!

Gary,
Its only now that i wish i had listened in chemistry class instead of falling asleep.

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Message 1130345 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 7:15:24 UTC
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Just to change a little the subject. Einstein@home has discovered 5 new pulsars from the Parkes data, after discovering 2 in the Arecibo data. The Parkes pulsars lie close to the galactic center.
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Message 1130351 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 8:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 1130345.  

Just to change a little the subject. Einstein@home has discovered 5 new pulsars from the Parkes data, after discovering 2 in the Arecibo data. The Parkes pulsars lie close to the galactic center.
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That is good news Tullio!

As i said before Tullio, there is no black hole in the centre of the Milkyway. Once the pulsars finally do make in into the centre, they will be torn apart just like any star and 100% of the material will be ejected out as electromagnetic radiation.

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Message 1130456 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 16:52:58 UTC - in response to Message 1130351.  
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Just to change a little the subject. Einstein@home has discovered 5 new pulsars from the Parkes data, after discovering 2 in the Arecibo data. The Parkes pulsars lie close to the galactic center.
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That is good news Tullio!

As i said before Tullio, there is no black hole in the centre of the Milkyway. Once the pulsars finally do make in into the centre, they will be torn apart just like any star and 100% of the material will be ejected out as electromagnetic radiation.

John.

In the black hole thread, I posted a couple of links showing evidence for a black hole in the center of the galaxy. There is a star with a very strange, tiny orbit. At one end it swings very fast, and slower at the other. It seems to be orbiting nothing, except the mass calculations needed to cause that type of orbit are an object with I think 3.7 million times the mass of our sun. Here are the links. There is certainly something there with a whole lot of mass.

http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Sblkhole.htm

http://www.mpe.mpg.de/ir/GC/index.php

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Message 1130504 - Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 19:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 1130456.  
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Message 1130650 - Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 20:12:05 UTC - in response to Message 1130017.  

... The 'Egyptian Book of the Dead' meets the criteria of being written on Papyrus in Egyptian style hieroglyphics,
and having had a readership of 40 million throughout history.
From this it follows that you are somehow interpreting the 192 identified magic spells within the text of the book as being analogies to current problems in science, and that you've solved them.
Mix in a bit of Christian Mythology and you've got a winning formula.

You should have no trouble publishing your findings.
You just need to pray a little harder/longer.

:o}

Or just conjure up appealing interpretations and then hit the conspiracists circus! You could well be awash with Guinness if you get your words right! :-)

A few links, some with pictures:

Journey through the afterlife: ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead

Papyrus from the Book of the Dead of Ani

Book of the Dead: Discovery, translation, interpretation and preservation

Book of the Dead: At sacred-texts

The Egyptian Book of the Dead - 1240 BC - THE PAPYRUS OF ANI


That last link is from the website of a modern group with very old ideas about events of about 2000 years ago:

Nazarene or Nazareth? ... The Essenes, The Nazarenes


I'm sure this list will be happy to peer review any musings :-)

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Message 1130825 - Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 2:01:37 UTC - in response to Message 1130650.  

The myths in the bible (parts of which were written long after the supposed time of Christ) were also found in the dead sea scrolls from the Qumran Essenes. John the Baptist was supposedly from this Jewish sect. The stories in the scrolls refer to the "Lawgiver" and they predate the alleged time of Christ by as much as 150 years.

Perhaps the Bible is sort of like Shakespeares works many of which were oft-told tales handed down through the generations.

I am no biblical scholar and these remarks are taken from things I have read over the years--don't know how reliable the assessments are. But I do know you can't change water into wine nor raise the dead. At least it's been a long time since these things have been done well.
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Message 1130957 - Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 13:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 1130825.  
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William Rothamel said:
But I do know you can't change water into wine nor raise the dead. At least it's been a long time since these things have been done well.

Daddio,
Exactly how sure are you about that? How sure are you that you can't raise the dead?

Because Daddio, modern science would disagree with you!!

Popular science magazine; Japanese Researchers Announce Plan to Resurrect Woolly Mammoth Within Five Years;
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/japanese-researchers-plan-resurrect-woolly-mammoth-within-five-years

UK Daily Telegraph; Mammoth 'could be reborn in four years'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8257223/Mammoth-could-be-reborn-in-four-years.html

National Geographic; Woolly Mammoth Resurrection, "Jurassic Park" Planned;
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0408_050408_woollymammoth.html

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Daddio,
Woolly Mammoth died out several thousand years ago. Now if we can bring back a dead Woolly Mammoth from 10,000 year old genetic material preserved in bones, then we can do it with a human being that died 3 days ago.

Funny thing, isn't that what they said about some bloke called Jesus. 2,000 years ago they said he died and then was resurrected 3 days later!!

And the water turning into wine. Well with todays science, that's not even a trick any more. You can mix in a thimble full of any of the grape amino acids and off you go.

Funny how modern science is starting to replicate things that were predicted in the bible thousands of years ago.

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Message 1131176 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 0:34:59 UTC - in response to Message 1130957.  

Don't believe that was the way it was purported to have been done. Well as I said , "It's been a long time since these things have been done well"
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Message 1131202 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 2:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 1130957.  
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Woolly Mammoth died out several thousand years ago. Now if we can bring back a dead Woolly Mammoth from 10,000 year old genetic material preserved in bones, then we can do it with a human being that died 3 days ago.


Nope. Not the same thing.

NO human can bring back THAT Woolly Mammoth! The Frozen one. No science on Earth can do that. Same problem with the recently deceased...

We can create a copy (maybe, sometimes, ~if all the Planets are aligned properly~)...but that's Cheating! :-)

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Message 1131216 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 3:45:33 UTC

Lint trap is very correct in that cloning doesn't bring the dead back to life.
The being that is created by cloning may be genetically identical but will have none of the learned behaviour traits of the original.
No memories or learned responses are carried over. The clone is really just a clean slate with shared genes.

The guy who's genes are used is still just as dead.
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Message 1131418 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 17:57:22 UTC - in response to Message 1131216.  

Lint trap is very correct in that cloning doesn't bring the dead back to life.
The being that is created by cloning may be genetically identical but will have none of the learned behaviour traits of the original.
No memories or learned responses are carried over. The clone is really just a clean slate with shared genes.

The guy who's genes are used is still just as dead.

Interesting!!
Even when the science is presented in front of you, science being preformed by reputable universities and respected professors, you guys can all find flaws.

None of you are scientifically thinking people at all. You guys have really shown you inability to understand science.

Its already happening right now. Humanity is splitting into two species of people;
Type 1. The people who truly understand and contribute to science.
Type 2. The people who don't understand science but just believe it anyway.

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Message 1131423 - Posted: 24 Jul 2011, 18:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 1131418.  

... None of you are scientifically thinking people at all. You guys have really shown you inability to understand science. ...

Your version of 'science' appears to be different to what we understand to be science.

Are you confusing 'science' for what you should be calling 'religion'?


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Message 1131556 - Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 1:06:24 UTC - in response to Message 1131513.  

Interesting!!
Even when the science is presented in front of you, science being preformed by reputable universities and respected professors, you guys can all find flaws.

None of you are scientifically thinking people at all. You guys have really shown you inability to understand science.

Its already happening right now. Humanity is splitting into two species of people;
Type 1. The people who truly understand and contribute to science.
Type 2. The people who don't understand science but just believe it anyway.

John.


Please elaborate on the Type 1. of which i'm sure you're One.

Why Guido? What don't you understand? You must be Type 2 so. In which case, your not going to understand Type 1 even if i did elaborate.

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