Panic Mode On (50) Server problems?

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genfoch01 Send message Joined: 23 Jun 99 Posts: 4 Credit: 873,571 RAC: 0	Message 1114227 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 11:20:52 UTC
	are there still server issues? I am still getting communication deferred when I try to update the seti@home project and I have no tasks running. Ok, I know that means the server is down, I just wanted to verify it was the server not my client.
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arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3089 Credit: 40,377,789 RAC: 66,104	Message 1125953 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 16:37:35 UTC
	Welcome to the 50th rendition of this thread!!!!!!! Please continue. ____________
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rebest Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Apr 00 Posts: 1291 Credit: 25,403,089 RAC: 28,735	Message 1126005 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:51:33 UTC
	Uh oh! Server status indicates we're about to run out of new work. ____________ Join the PACK!
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Highlander Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 129 Credit: 29,006,789 RAC: 35,954	Message 1126062 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 21:14:43 UTC - in response to Message 1126005.
	Uh oh! Server status indicates we're about to run out of new work. Oh, your right, it's weekend again :-) ____________
	ID: 1126062 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34161 Credit: 344,739,690 RAC: 546,984	Message 1126065 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 21:22:54 UTC
	Well, I hope they can figure out the AP processing problems soon and get that back on track. There must be more than a few datasets lying around right now that have all the MB crunched out of them but not the AP work. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1126065 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2688 Credit: 7,692,809 RAC: 23,879	Message 1126099 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:21:59 UTC
	So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master. Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
	ID: 1126099 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34161 Credit: 344,739,690 RAC: 546,984	Message 1126103 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 1126099. Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 22:34:03 UTC
	So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master. Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online. And 2 new datasets have been added for MB splitting. Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing. Caches couldn't be full yet, could they? Naw.... ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 1126103 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2688 Credit: 7,692,809 RAC: 23,879	Message 1126105 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 1126103.
	So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master. Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online. And 2 new datasets have been added for MB splitting. Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing. Caches couldn't be full yet, could they? Naw.... Well Results out in the field is 6,502,907, so that's pretty high too. But half a million more and most caches would be filled I think. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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Slavac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 27 Apr 11 Posts: 1932 Credit: 17,952,120 RAC: 8	Message 1126109 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 1126105.
	I'm needing about 4000 tasks to fill mine up and am getting nada. Interestingly, with no AP work, my system picked up an epic boat load of 6.03 tasks. Wish it wouldn't have done that. ____________ Executive Director GPU Users Group Inc. - brad@gpuug.org
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5059 Credit: 40,914,502 RAC: 52,880	Message 1126111 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 23:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1126103. Last modified: 8 Jul 2011, 23:07:41 UTC
	Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing. Caches couldn't be full yet, could they? Naw.... Not here, and they've still got a long way to go. The actual number of Work Units needed to fill the caches isn't that big, but because of the rate at which i return work, and the Ready to Send numbers not withstanding, the majority of requests for work result in No work available or No work sent messaages. Lately it's mostly been No work sent. I suspect the Ready to Send buffer is only growing because for some reason downloads are dropping off, but i doubt the demand for work is. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5059 Credit: 40,914,502 RAC: 52,880	Message 1126159 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 2:47:46 UTC
	Looks like it's almost dead. There are ready to send Work Units (not many, but they're there), yet the network traffic contiues to decline. And other than the odd Work Unit, most Scheduler requests result in "No work available" messages. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,851,578 RAC: 78,558	Message 1126178 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 4:17:23 UTC - in response to Message 1126105.
	So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master. Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online. And 2 new datasets have been added for MB splitting. Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing. Caches couldn't be full yet, could they? Naw.... Well Results out in the field is 6,502,907, so that's pretty high too. But half a million more and most caches would be filled I think. Hmm I don't know about that. I just switched 2 of my GPU's at home back on since I am mostly finished moving into my new place. They are doing a fine job of slurping down tasks and spitting them back out in a hurry. Maybe another 5,000,000 out in the field will do :) ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
	ID: 1126178 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 5453 Credit: 20,860,568 RAC: 130,247	Message 1126202 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 8:24:12 UTC
	A few things to consider: - the backup database is DAYS behind the master, so the various guestimates are more off than usual. - its a weekend and at least one of the S@H servers will demand time off... - the creation rate is very low, and probably unable to keep up with the demand rate - its a weekend and at least one of the S@H servers will demand time off... - the ready to use cache is very low (varies from 0-2,000, used to sit at around 250,000) - its a weekend and at least one of the S@H servers will demand time off... We do know there is a problem with the AP side of things, and that whole part of the system is turned off, but what we don't know is what side effects this is having on the other side of the fence... ____________ Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
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S@NL - XP_Freak Send message Joined: 10 Jul 99 Posts: 97 Credit: 3,742,756 RAC: 4,176	Message 1126203 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 8:39:06 UTC
	I thought maybe I can help the up/download servers a bit by downloading AP-wu's. But with the assimilators down, I am the one who gets punnished for crunching AP-wu's. (No credit) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=753788639 ____________ Goodbye Seti Classic
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Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 671 Credit: 1,186,084 RAC: 743	Message 1126206 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 9:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 1126203.
	http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=753788639 I'm sorry to tell you that, but IIRC in such case the last returned result won't get any credit, I had that once myself with a AP-result retuned shortly after the deadline. ____________ .
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S@NL - XP_Freak Send message Joined: 10 Jul 99 Posts: 97 Credit: 3,742,756 RAC: 4,176	Message 1126214 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 10:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 1126206.
	http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=753788639 I'm sorry to tell you that, but IIRC in such case the last returned result won't get any credit, I had that once myself with a AP-result retuned shortly after the deadline. Well, we will see. I did not send it in too late, I just got it late. Two results were send in on 13 June, and I got mine 27 June. ____________ Goodbye Seti Classic
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Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 19494 Credit: 21,176,695 RAC: 26,866	Message 1126219 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:08:10 UTC
	They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host. ____________
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S@NL - XP_Freak Send message Joined: 10 Jul 99 Posts: 97 Credit: 3,742,756 RAC: 4,176	Message 1126225 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:15:01 UTC - in response to Message 1126219.
	They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host. I was the third host, and I did return de result yesterday. ____________ Goodbye Seti Classic
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Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 671 Credit: 1,186,084 RAC: 743	Message 1126227 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:23:50 UTC - in response to Message 1126219.
	They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host. The problem with AP is (unless they fixed it), that the first two results validate against each other and the third one gets something like "could not validate" or something like that, even if returned in time. ____________ .
	ID: 1126227 ·

Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2688 Credit: 7,692,809 RAC: 23,879	Message 1126228 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:31:51 UTC - in response to Message 1126227.
	They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host. The problem with AP is (unless they fixed it), that the first two results validate against each other and the third one gets something like "could not validate" or something like that, even if returned in time. Yes, I noticed that too several times. A WU is sent out to me because one wingman of the two had not delivered the result before the time was up. Then before I have crunched it the late wingman returns the result, it validates against the first wingman, and when I turn in the result it doesn't give me any credit at all, it turns to "INVALID" That seems to be an exclusive AP problem though, I haven't seen the same behaviour with MB. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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