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Message 1114227 - Posted: 7 Jun 2011, 11:20:52 UTC

are there still server issues? I am still getting communication deferred when I try to update the seti@home project and I have no tasks running. Ok, I know that means the server is down, I just wanted to verify it was the server not my client.

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Message 1125953 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 16:37:35 UTC

Welcome to the 50th rendition of this thread!!!!!!!

Please continue.
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Message 1126005 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 18:51:33 UTC

Uh oh! Server status indicates we're about to run out of new work.
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Message 1126062 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 21:14:43 UTC - in response to Message 1126005.

Uh oh! Server status indicates we're about to run out of new work.


Oh, your right, it's weekend again :-)
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Message 1126099 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:21:59 UTC

So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master.

Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online.
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Message 1126105 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 1126103.

So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master.

Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online.

And 2 new datasets have been added for MB splitting.

Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing.

Caches couldn't be full yet, could they?
Naw....



Well Results out in the field is 6,502,907, so that's pretty high too. But half a million more and most caches would be filled I think.
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Message 1126109 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 22:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 1126105.

I'm needing about 4000 tasks to fill mine up and am getting nada.

Interestingly, with no AP work, my system picked up an epic boat load of 6.03 tasks. Wish it wouldn't have done that.
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Message 1126111 - Posted: 8 Jul 2011, 23:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1126103.
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Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing.

Caches couldn't be full yet, could they?
Naw....

Not here, and they've still got a long way to go.
The actual number of Work Units needed to fill the caches isn't that big, but because of the rate at which i return work, and the Ready to Send numbers not withstanding, the majority of requests for work result in No work available or No work sent messaages. Lately it's mostly been No work sent.

I suspect the Ready to Send buffer is only growing because for some reason downloads are dropping off, but i doubt the demand for work is.
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Message 1126159 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 2:47:46 UTC


Looks like it's almost dead.
There are ready to send Work Units (not many, but they're there), yet the network traffic contiues to decline. And other than the odd Work Unit, most Scheduler requests result in "No work available" messages.
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Message 1126178 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 4:17:23 UTC - in response to Message 1126105.

So, Replica finally seems to be online for real, and not only "Green" on the Server status page. As of now though, it's 256,106 seconds (71 hours) behind Master.

Let's see if it will work this time, and actually catch up and stay online.

And 2 new datasets have been added for MB splitting.

Funny, but for some reason the Cricket graphs don't seem to have picked up on that fact yet, and ready to send is climbing.

Caches couldn't be full yet, could they?
Naw....



Well Results out in the field is 6,502,907, so that's pretty high too. But half a million more and most caches would be filled I think.


Hmm I don't know about that. I just switched 2 of my GPU's at home back on since I am mostly finished moving into my new place. They are doing a fine job of slurping down tasks and spitting them back out in a hurry. Maybe another 5,000,000 out in the field will do :)
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Message 1126202 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 8:24:12 UTC

A few things to consider:
- the backup database is DAYS behind the master, so the various guestimates are more off than usual.
- its a weekend and at least one of the S@H servers will demand time off...
- the creation rate is very low, and probably unable to keep up with the demand rate
- its a weekend and at least one of the S@H servers will demand time off...
- the ready to use cache is very low (varies from 0-2,000, used to sit at around 250,000)
- its a weekend and at least one of the S@H servers will demand time off...

We do know there is a problem with the AP side of things, and that whole part of the system is turned off, but what we don't know is what side effects this is having on the other side of the fence...

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Message 1126203 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 8:39:06 UTC

I thought maybe I can help the up/download servers a bit by downloading AP-wu's.
But with the assimilators down, I am the one who gets punnished for crunching AP-wu's. (No credit)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=753788639
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Message 1126206 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 9:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 1126203.

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I'm sorry to tell you that, but IIRC in such case the last returned result won't get any credit, I had that once myself with a AP-result retuned shortly after the deadline.
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Message 1126214 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 10:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 1126206.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=753788639

I'm sorry to tell you that, but IIRC in such case the last returned result won't get any credit, I had that once myself with a AP-result retuned shortly after the deadline.
Well, we will see.
I did not send it in too late, I just got it late.
Two results were send in on 13 June, and I got mine 27 June.

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Message 1126219 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:08:10 UTC


They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host.

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Message 1126225 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:15:01 UTC - in response to Message 1126219.


They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host.

I was the third host, and I did return de result yesterday.
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Message 1126227 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:23:50 UTC - in response to Message 1126219.


They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host.

The problem with AP is (unless they fixed it), that the first two results validate against each other and the third one gets something like "could not validate" or something like that, even if returned in time.
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Message 1126228 - Posted: 9 Jul 2011, 11:31:51 UTC - in response to Message 1126227.


They will get credit probably so long its not returned by third host.

The problem with AP is (unless they fixed it), that the first two results validate against each other and the third one gets something like "could not validate" or something like that, even if returned in time.


Yes, I noticed that too several times. A WU is sent out to me because one wingman of the two had not delivered the result before the time was up. Then before I have crunched it the late wingman returns the result, it validates against the first wingman, and when I turn in the result it doesn't give me any credit at all, it turns to "INVALID"

That seems to be an exclusive AP problem though, I haven't seen the same behaviour with MB.
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