I have asked this before and I/ll ask it again?

Why Hide your computers if you are asking for help?
Why don't you give more info about your system I.E.
1. Operating System Windows linux etc.
2. Type and speed etc.
3. Boinc Version SETI Version

I really don't see the need to hide your systems
anyway.

As they say in Vermont

Ahea ya can't git there from heare!

perplexed

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Simple fear, Timmy, or, at least, caution.

My systems are hidden because when I signed up, it was not obvious that things such as IP address and computer name would be hidden. I took the careful setting. Sure, I realize that the information shown is not risky, but when I was signing up, I sure didn't. I would assume a lot of other people felt the same way.

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> Simple fear, Timmy, or, at least, caution.
>
> My systems are hidden because when I signed up, it was not obvious that things
> such as IP address and computer name would be hidden. I took the careful
> setting. Sure, I realize that the information shown is not risky, but when I
> was signing up, I sure didn't. I would assume a lot of other people felt the
> same way.

If you go to your preferences, you can still unhide your PC('s). ;o]

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Have a look at the Technical News
Look if your question is not answered at the Boinc Wiki

Best greetings, Thierry

> If you go to your preferences, you can still unhide your PC('s). ;o]

Sure can. :-P ;-)

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> > If you go to your preferences, you can still unhide your PC('s). ;o]
>
> Sure can. :-P ;-)

Even if you hide your puters normally at least unhide them when asking for help. Sometimes you can see a trend in finished WU's

Also I wonder how many overclocked Puters return errors I realize
that won't show, Reason for another thread. mmmm

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I have asked this before and I/ll ask it again?

Why Hide your computers if you are asking for help?
Why don't you give more info about your system I.E.
1. Operating System Windows linux etc.
2. Type and speed etc.
3. Boinc Version SETI Version
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Well I suppose your right if a person is having big time problems & needs big time help. But I know yesterday I made a simple post just asking what the daily Quota Limit was now and right away somebody said well my Computers where hidden so like they couldn't tell me...

Why does anybody need to look at my Computers to tell me what the Daily Quota Limit is. Does the type of computers I have determine the Quota Limit for me, I hardly think so...Some people are just to eager to look at what somebody else has for computers in my opinion.

Hi PoorBoy,

I agree it's not necessary for a general question.
I do like to familiarize myself with the op system
the person is running.

I am not a guru by any means and none of my replies
are cast in stone.

I have learn by making all the mistakes more than once :-)

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>
> Well I suppose your right if a person is having big time problems & needs
> big time help. But I know yesterday I made a simple post just asking what the
> daily Quota Limit was now and right away somebody said well my Computers where
> hidden so like they couldn't tell me...

Uhm, your question was 2-part, part 1 was daily quota and this was answered. Part 2 was you was reporting a possible problem with one computer, so was (unsuccessfully) trying to get you to look if you've got assigned 50 "results" for this computer or not. ;)

Uhm, your question was 2-part, part 1 was daily quota and this was answered. Part 2 was you was reporting a possible problem with one computer, so was (unsuccessfully) trying to get you to look if you've got assigned 50 "results" for this computer or not. ;)
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Yes your right, but I also said I was getting the Daily Quota Exceeded on that Computer & that I didn't have any failed downloads thus the reason for asking what the Daily Quota was now ... ;)

> My systems are hidden because when I signed up, it was not obvious that things
> such as IP address and computer name would be hidden. I took the careful
> setting. Sure, I realize that the information shown is not risky, but when I
> was signing up, I sure didn't. I would assume a lot of other people felt the
> same way.

Okay, this raises the question:

Why are you concerned about your IP address or computer name being 'hidden' on that page?

Your IP address is everwhere. Every website you contact, every fileserver you get a file from, every IM server, every web board, everything... has your IP address. You can't run a non-secure system and just hope nobody finds you. They will. Security through obscurity doesn't work on the Internet.

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Rob

>
> Yes your right, but I also said I was getting the Daily Quota Exceeded on that
> Computer & that I didn't have any failed downloads thus the reason for
> asking what the Daily Quota was now ... ;)
>

It's possible you've got assigned a bunch of wu, but never actually got the message to download them, or you don't remember the 50 wu downloaded 12 hours ago thinking these was yesterday, maybe you've reset your computer and don't remember you did download wu before resetting, or only getting download-errors. Or you don't think some/any of these will be counted against your daily quota.

There's no problems with someone hiding their computers, but it's still possible to post computer-123456789 is giving "daily quota exceeded", but haven't downloaded anything, and other users can check if overlooked the reason or something. :)

Why Hide your computers if you are asking for help?

>>>> I never ask for help ... I always give help.

Why don't you give more info about your system I.E.
1. Operating System Windows linux etc.

>>>> Very asocial BUT nevertheless NONE of your business.
>>>> Participating in Seti does not mean that one has to tell everyone everything. By god man I don't even know you...


2. Type and speed etc.

>>>> Typically and totally irrelevant. Today multiple 3.4 GHz. Perhaps tomorrow if I want I'll get to a store and buy a couple of AMD's 3.7 GHz or maybe 4.0 Gig... Nothing to fuzz about...


3. Boinc Version SETI Version

>>>> Why should I care, if this one has some problems ok. The next will hopefully be better...

Stop worrying to much and start living, we are merely less than a grain of sand in the galaxy, so ...

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Why would you even respond to this post if you have all the answers.

I know nothing of Linux and would not comment on a system that is.
Nor would I comment on an Apple etc. O.S in important and I have seen
people asking for help and forgetting to mention O.S. I always checked
to see thier O.S.

I know nothing compaired to some of you GURU'S but I can take a complicated
problem and break it down to a simple answer.

Thanks for your input Mr. Linux...

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> Why would you even respond to this post if you have all the answers.

Maybe even the dull and ignorant may say their truth no?

> I know nothing of Linux and would not comment on a system that is.
> Nor would I comment on an Apple etc. O.S in important and I have seen
> people asking for help and forgetting to mention O.S. I always checked
> to see thier O.S.

This is not in question... The question was concerning hiding of computers.
>
> I know nothing compaired to some of you GURU'S but I can take a complicated
> problem and break it down to a simple answer.

I never even dare to doubt that, because I don't even know you!!!
>
> Thanks for your input Mr. Linux...
>
@ Mr. Timmy,

The Mr. goes with all my respect to you,
I do not have any offence towards you or against anyone else.
The statement has nothing to do with the OS'ses used nor with any idea of whatsoever of thinking of being some kind of IT guru as you called it.
None of these are important... because I shurely am not.

I'm in this for THE ESSENTIAL RIGHT of FREEDOM. This means that in essence :

1. I do have the freedom to hide / not to hide whatever I want since this is my personal right, the silent others too.
2. Freedom is in so far free that others don't take away part of that freedom from me as long as my freedom doesn't harm you it shouldnot bother you...
3. I really don't care if people hide their computers, it's their elementary right to do so. They have paid for them and they are entitled to do whatsoever with them, even if they use them as drums or as a coffee heater...Simply leave them be...
4. I'm always getting nervous when being told what we should do, when we are actually doing nothing that harms anyone...
5. You actually started this thread and now react if the vision of some is not in line with yours,... hmm...

If you really want the world to be a free place - leave the others their own freedom as long as their freedom doesnot harm you and don't try to impose yours -
Only then the world will perhaps become a better place to live in. No one should take the role of the universal police, we shurely don't like that attitude.

With friendly respect to you,
Greetings from Belgium
;-))

PS : This isn't the first time you brought up this question... I thought we 'd already had this one in another thread...

Hi.

> Why are you concerned about your IP address or computer name being 'hidden' on
> that page?
>
> Your IP address is everwhere. Every website you contact, every fileserver you
> get a file from, every IM server, every web board, everything... has your IP

Right, but not every Tom, Dick and Harry can see that information. I surf a pretty small number of the same sites every day. I don't need to worry much about somebody gleaning my IP address from the server logs. Same goes for file servers, messaging, SMS gateways, the like. My IP address is invisible to most internet users and I like it that way.

I don't try to hide my identity. My real name, e-mail address and web site are all public knowledge. I don't feel compelled to give out much more than that and a vCard attached to e-mail. If I know you enough to e-mail you, then I'm probably not too concerned about you getting my host's IP address in the mail header.

> address. You can't run a non-secure system and just hope nobody finds you.
> They will. Security through obscurity doesn't work on the Internet.

If somebody really wants to find me, let 'em work at it a bit. :-)

Security through obscurity is just a single aspect of an overall approach to security. I'm firewalled, stealthed, anti-virused, selective about my apps and up-to-the-minute with my security updates. After some 20 years of administering all sorts of systems, I know the game.

Security through obscurity is a popular buzzword nowadays and, amusingly, many like to sneer at it in a negative fashion. Those who do indicate that they really don't understand security. In my opinion, of course.

I'm not asking any questions here that would require anybody to see my systems, so they remain hidden. As far as I'm concerned, whether I've got 1, 5 or 500 systems under my domain is nobody's business. Moreover, with the recent implementation of post rating here, I've noticed it being abused for personal reasons. With that in mind, I have every intention of remaining careful.

Anyway, I hope this post doesn't come off sounding argumentive because I'm really not trying to be disagreeable. I just prefer to keep the systems hidden until such time as I see a need to expose them to scrutiny.

trane

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@ Mr. Trane,

You're quite right, whatever computer(s) you own, you indeed shouldn't make it an open door to walk in for everyone...
In my view this even has nothing to do with people asking questions about the functioning of BOINC / Seti.
If they ask, I'll always reply... or try to.
(Needless to be said that not often most of the asking only in a very few cases have even the politeness to give some reply, less some 'thank you').

Greetings from Belgium ;-))

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this for THE ESSENTIAL RIGHT of FREEDOM. This means that in essence :
>
> 1. I do have the freedom to hide / not to hide whatever I want since this is
> my personal right, the silent others too.
> 2. Freedom is in so far free that others don't take away part of that freedom
> from me as long as my freedom doesn't harm you it shouldnot bother you...
> 3. I really don't care if people hide their computers, it's their elementary
> right to do so. They have paid for them and they are entitled to do whatsoever

TKS Mr. Linux, my opinion too.

Dear Timmy!

some more, not so much technical "reasons"

-because this pi***ng list is a public bubble gum.

..change your Operating system and yep a new "unkillable" ghost is created.

..Clients no longer existing and running for month, are in the "list" and "everybody" is thinking ohh look at the number the man/girl have?.
Sry but 95% of people are not looking closer to differ activ / passive hosts.

One time I had 58 entries in the host List, it takes time to manage this.


1 result for datenschutz
Datenschutz {m} data protection; data privacy; privacy
this has to be lived !

If somebody is looking for some help, not related to any benchmark/timing RAC/TIC/TAC/TOC/MAC questions. there is no need to "open" the color of the socket used.

and the probaly most silly answer to your question is:
..BECAUSE IT'S THERE.

curiosity kills the cat!

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