Yes, both parties are insane.
And for a MINOR moment of levity: maybe they're indeed confused about our numbering system, as we have some different names than used elsewhere in the world.
Search results on naming differences in the numbering system.

I'm not finding much levity. My two daughters are going to be stuck with this crap. What's in store for them? Who knows.

I'm really not finding much levity at all. None.

In the true ability of an independent, who can sound like a conservative at times: well, you're the one that chose to have children (you and your partner/spouse, that is).
And you think you won't feel it before you pass on; that it's only a matter of the pain of being passed on one or two generations down the road?

they seem to be pandering to the Tea party now. Talk about crazy the Tea party folks want to shutdown the gov't to prove a point of what extremes they'll go to get their way. Clinton successfully used the bully pulpit the last time lets hope Obama can get folks to see reason

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Diogenes Of Sinope

they seem to be pandering to the Tea party now. Talk about crazy the Tea party folks want to shutdown the gov't to prove a point of what extremes they'll go to get their way. Clinton successfully used the bully pulpit the last time lets hope Obama can get folks to see reason

Crazy? No. They see a debt of $46,000 for every person in the United States and realize you can't raise taxes enough to pay for it all. That means cutting things, just like families and people do when they have too high debt.

I wish Democrats would do what sane individuals do everyday in their personal lives and as they run their households.... Say to themselves "NO, I actually can't afford that. I'll pass. Thank you for the offer."

It's called willpower. Something that's absent with Pelosi/Reid/Obama and Company. Even RED China is saying we spend too much. When communists are admonishing you on spending, you know you have a problem.

I think America has basically the same problem that we have over here in the UK. Traditionally you only have Right wing or Left Wing, and in each case only 1 major party representing that. In our case we have Labour for the left, Conservatives for the right.

Usually they take it in turns to win at General elections, but we have just finished a 10 year term of Labour, and we now have a coalition government between the Tories and the Lib-Dems. Although in fact it's really another Tory government propped up by the Lib-Dems. If they hadn't done that it would have been a Tory minority Governemnt which wouldn't have lasted 6 months before we went to the polls again.

The last coalition government we had was during WWII when party politics were put to one side for the sake of the war effort. It's an uneasy set-up in peace time. We had a fledgling third party in the making from 1981-88 with the Social Democrat Party (SDP) made up of disatisfied Labour MP's, but it didn't last and merged with the Lib Dems.

After the 5 year term of our parliament, will the Lib Dems emerge as a strong enough party in their own right to challenge the other two? We will see. I'll watch your Tea Party with interest.

Chris, I'd watch the Tea Party with fear. Whatever your politics I am sure you wouldn't want these people in power. There policies are based on ignorance. A lot of their candidates are downright nuts.

Imagine your worst students who have a very limited view of the world and who argue with you with an overblown sense of their rights but with absolutely no understanding of how the world works and so sense of their responsibility.

Have you ever taught pupils who stick their hands over their ears and scream "devils lies! devils lies!" when you are teaching the theory of evolution?

These are the type of people grow up, get the vote and then make up the Tea Party.

It is not in anyone's interest to have a party like that in power. They scare me.

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Have you ever taught pupils who stick their hands over their ears and scream "devils lies! devils lies!" when you are teaching the theory of evolution?

I assume you can't call Child Protective Services to solve the issue and have them removed from their abusive parents.


IIRC when the first of the now dozens of Tea Parties started it had no religo-nuts in it. It was libertarian. The religo-nuts saw that this group had traction and might just get somewhere. That scared them as they would get marginalized. They started dozens of religo-tea's and got idiot publicity. All good things get destroyed.

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I think America has basically the same problem that we have over here in the UK. Traditionally you only have Right wing or Left Wing, and in each case only 1 major party representing that. In our case we have Labour for the left, Conservatives for the right.

Usually they take it in turns to win at General elections, but we have just finished a 10 year term of Labour, and we now have a coalition government between the Tories and the Lib-Dems. Although in fact it's really another Tory government propped up by the Lib-Dems. If they hadn't done that it would have been a Tory minority Governemnt which wouldn't have lasted 6 months before we went to the polls again.

The last coalition government we had was during WWII when party politics were put to one side for the sake of the war effort. It's an uneasy set-up in peace time. We had a fledgling third party in the making from 1981-88 with the Social Democrat Party (SDP) made up of disatisfied Labour MP's, but it didn't last and merged with the Lib Dems.

After the 5 year term of our parliament, will the Lib Dems emerge as a strong enough party in their own right to challenge the other two? We will see. I'll watch your Tea Party with interest.

Chris, I'd watch the Tea Party with fear. Whatever your politics I am sure you wouldn't want these people in power. There policies are based on ignorance. A lot of their candidates are downright nuts.

Imagine your worst students who have a very limited view of the world and who argue with you with an overblown sense of their rights but with absolutely no understanding of how the world works and so sense of their responsibility.

Have you ever taught pupils who stick their hands over their ears and scream "devils lies! devils lies!" when you are teaching the theory of evolution?

These are the type of people grow up, get the vote and then make up the Tea Party.

It is not in anyone's interest to have a party like that in power. They scare me.

I actually think good things will start to happen now. People will once again see that they are getting swindled and hoodwinked by the wealthy pigs that claim they come to save us.

I read in the news this morning that the Republicans are refusing to budge on 0.83% of the entire budget. less than 1% of the budget will cause us to shut down again. Shame on you

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Diogenes Of Sinope

Chris, I'd watch the Tea Party with fear. Whatever your politics I am sure you wouldn't want these people in power. There policies are based on ignorance. A lot of their candidates are downright nuts.

Imagine your worst students who have a very limited view of the world and who argue with you with an overblown sense of their rights but with absolutely no understanding of how the world works and so sense of their responsibility.

Have you ever taught pupils who stick their hands over their ears and scream "devils lies! devils lies!" when you are teaching the theory of evolution?

These are the type of people grow up, get the vote and then make up the Tea Party.

It is not in anyone's interest to have a party like that in power. They scare me.

Broad, sweeping, robotic, knee jerk, delusional statements.

Is it more in the interest of the U.S. to ignore more and more of the U.S. Constitution? Is it more in the interest of the U.S. for the federal government to usurp more and more power from the 50 states? Is it more in the interest of the U.S. to separate people into groups and give some groups more rights than others? Is it more in the interest of the U.S. to inflate the dollar, file for bankruptcy and then not pay for the goods and services that you agreed to pay for? Is it more in the interest of the U.S. to allow the political class to decide how much they want to take, how much they want to keep, and then how much they want to give back? Is it more in the interest of the U.S. to divide this nation and break it apart?

The Tea Party basically wants to keep the dollar strong and the federal government weak, but strong enough to do some basic tasks for the good of all as the original 13 colonies agreed to a couple hundred years ago. There is no agreement to ignore more and more of the U.S. Constitution. There is no agreement to allow the federal government to dictate to the states what they must now do. What separate groups of people this country started out with are no longer separate, as stated in some mutually agreed to constitutional amendments (following a very bloody civil war). Devaluing the dollar is a way for the federal government to usurp more power and the Tea Party is fed up with that tactic. It is morally wrong to agree to something, and then decide you don't have to abide by the original agreement any more. And the U.S. tax rates are so high, it's slowly sapping our will to produce, thus, the recent low economic numbers.

We are falling apart as a nation, and the Tea Party does not like it. The Tea Party (WE THE PEOPLE, I) want to fix it before it can no longer be fixed.

OK, now your turn to substantiate your broad, sweeping, robotic, knee jerk, delusional statements. Such as, list some instances of Tea Party ignorance. Keep in mind, I'll be responding with some instances of ignorance from the left (here, and I'm sure I can find some from Canada also).

Ready? GO!

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is this about the same group that is running around demanding birth certificates(even though it can be easily googled), running around screaming 'o noes, sharia law is coming if there is a mosque in town', and trying to pass us off as a x-tian( I leave the c word out of the text since they leave his teachings out of their dogma) nation, despite the same constitution they claim to be upholding has a very clear seperation from church (ANY church/temple/synogugue/mosque/etc) and state?

I am sorry.. was there a point? Other than anyone to the left of falling-off-the-right-edge is "knee-jerk"?

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the entire discretionary budget.

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Diogenes Of Sinope

I'm sure I can find some from Canada also.

Idot!
celttooth
still not gettin' it

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Wow, nothing but well thought out, reasoned, counter aurguments in response to my posts.

Especially the "lol" response. I'm speachless after that tongue lashing.

You've totally destroyed what I've said. Through the power of words alone, you've made me look like a fool. I walk away in shame.

I now realize how stupid I am. And I need to be told how to live by other people who are smarter than me, like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and you guys.

I need to shut up, go to work when I'm told to go to work, and then line up at a government office where someone there will decide how much I get paid. After all, they know better what's best for me. After all, I'm just an animal with just a little more intelligence than a dog, right? I don't know how the real world works. And it's too complicated for me to understand.

After all, all wealth is created in Washington (by Bernanke). And it is by their grace that I have everything that I have. I will blindly have faith in them from this point forward.

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(sound of scratching needle across a vinyl record)

That's what you want to hear from me, right?

You know who'll win if you try to list insanity on the right and I effortlessly list insanity on the left. This is why I received these non-responses.

Soft, you need to open your eyes and look at what's happening in muslim countries. And you need to look at the context of the 1st Amendment, when it was written, and for whom it was intended. There IS a separation of church and state (at the federal level), but there's nothing unconstitutional about state and religion. Yes, there is a point. You, however, are in denial.

Celt, what's an "idot?" Is an "idot" someone who can't spell simple words? And please expand on what I'm not getting. The facts are in plain view.





lol...

Clearly my response was not what you were looking for. You ask for counter argument, but when your post is so far off base that it there is no place to even start a counter argument. Give us something to work with, otherwise I shall just post the real an honest response to what you wrote.

Which I did. I genuinely laughed out loud when I read it.

You don't want to be reasoned with. Your mind is made up. You just want a platform to preach from.

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