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Message 1080469 - Posted: 22 Feb 2011, 23:28:38 UTC

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/22/wisconsin.budget/index.html?hpt=T1
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Madison, Wisconsin (CNN) -- A left-leaning website that union supporters used to rally protesters in Wisconsin was partially blocked as demonstrators gathered in the state Capitol over a controversial budget bill.

The website, defendwisconsin.org, could not be accessed on Monday and into Tuesday morning in the Capitol building, where crowds assembled over proposed legislation that would increase the costs of benefits to public employees and curb their collective-bargaining rights.

Wisconsin Democratic Party press secretary Graeme Zielinski blamed Gov. Scott Walker and Republican lawmakers -- who returned to work Tuesday -- for causing the outage.

"In a direct assault on the First Amendment, Scott Walker's administration is blocking access in the Wisconsin Capitol to opposition websites," Zielinski said.

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Message 1080526 - Posted: 23 Feb 2011, 4:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 1080469.

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The governor's spokesman, Cullen Werwie, responded Tuesday, calling the accusation "a lie."

Perhaps that article changed after you posted it.

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Message 1080532 - Posted: 23 Feb 2011, 4:51:56 UTC

That was added in.

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Message 1080555 - Posted: 23 Feb 2011, 6:17:02 UTC - in response to Message 1080532.

That was added in.

Trying to cover his pasty backside.

I suspect CNN borrowing a FAUX tactic and publishing while it is yellow before all the facts are in. Ratings is the game, not news.

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Message 1080582 - Posted: 23 Feb 2011, 7:51:04 UTC

When the private sector was and still is losing jobs by the thousands/millions, I did not see any public sector employees filling up any state or local buildings protesting for their jobs.

Should private sector people employed or unemployed now stand/protest in solidarity? I don't think so.

Not when a government fiscal balancing would be in their benefit.

Besides, a few new friends to talk to in the unemployment lines is always a nice thing.

Seems the highly paid Union Bosses and their higher paid lawyers should of informed their "public" employess, that the contracts they created are not unbreakable.

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Message 1080645 - Posted: 23 Feb 2011, 15:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 1080582.

When the private sector was and still is losing jobs by the thousands/millions, I did not see any public sector employees filling up any state or local buildings protesting for their jobs.

Should private sector people employed or unemployed now stand/protest in solidarity? I don't think so.

Not when a government fiscal balancing would be in their benefit.

Besides, a few new friends to talk to in the unemployment lines is always a nice thing.

Seems the highly paid Union Bosses and their higher paid lawyers should of informed their "public" employess, that the contracts they created are not unbreakable.

iWorm 'em.

You've got it backwards. The private sector is gaining jobs and has been for IIRC the last 12 months or more. The public sector(state and local gov'ts) have been dumping employees. Gains made in the Private sector are greatly undercut by massive layoffs in the Public sector. Apparently, we are going to do more with less at the state and local level for some time into the future. Again, pet projects for those making the cuts are saved at the cost of actual workers in Gov't. Hate waiting in line to get your car registered or pay your taxes or getting a drivers license. Blame the state and local gov'ts for cutting staff.
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Message 1080865 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 6:06:03 UTC

What I find fascinating about Wisconsin and it's Troubles: The "Regime" which needs to be overthrown is the same Regime of Protestors. The Protestors are The Regime that needs toppling.

The "People" are not protesting to get rid of a Regime. The "Protestors" are The "Regime" and are "Protesting" themselves right out of "Power"/jobs.

It is quite interesting. And is why it is not like Egypt, Libya, et al. at all.

I listened to the Governer of Wisconsin speak today and he has it going on.

The Regime has lost.

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Message 1081048 - Posted: 24 Feb 2011, 23:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 1080865.

What I find fascinating about Wisconsin and it's Troubles: The "Regime" which needs to be overthrown is the same Regime of Protestors. The Protestors are The Regime that needs toppling.

The "People" are not protesting to get rid of a Regime. The "Protestors" are The "Regime" and are "Protesting" themselves right out of "Power"/jobs.

It is quite interesting. And is why it is not like Egypt, Libya, et al. at all.

I listened to the Governer of Wisconsin speak today and he has it going on.

The Regime has lost.

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Huh

Are you saying that the wingnuts that claim that unions are causing the problems are correct. THats funny want another page to read. Its full of facts so it may be confusing to right wingers

http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/002109.htm Take a good look at the graph. notice that the funding for schools in red states is much higher than funding for blue. also note that the funding for those reds states comes from the Blue states. Then look at how poorly the red states do in education. I can give you a hint. Pick any red state and you are virtually guaranteed to have lower educational scores than blues states. So you spend 2X more in red states, taking the money from blue states, and you still are getting a poorer educational experience in a red state.

Back to the topic at hand. Public union workers make more than their private counter parts. A wholesale lie even with benefits included. Private sector works other than those working entry level jobs, earn more than their counter parts in the public sector.

THen we have the GOvernor of Wisconsin producing a whopper. how about that the GOv. of Wisconsin fully admits his intention to screw over the workers and the elected Democrats of the state if they were to come back to Madison. Hmmmm seems to me the people should demand a recall election on this jackass and put him back to pasture where he belongs.

Lets hope the Workers of Wisconsin learned something from Libya, tunisia and Egypt. Demand his resignation. No negotiation. just leave office permanently
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Message 1081155 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 6:48:35 UTC

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Message 1081210 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 13:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 1080645.
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When the private sector was and still is losing jobs by the thousands/millions, I did not see any public sector employees filling up any state or local buildings protesting for their jobs.

Should private sector people employed or unemployed now stand/protest in solidarity? I don't think so.

Not when a government fiscal balancing would be in their benefit.

Besides, a few new friends to talk to in the unemployment lines is always a nice thing.

Seems the highly paid Union Bosses and their higher paid lawyers should of informed their "public" employess, that the contracts they created are not unbreakable.

iWorm 'em.

You've got it backwards. The private sector is gaining jobs and has been for IIRC the last 12 months or more. The public sector(state and local gov'ts) have been dumping employees. Gains made in the Private sector are greatly undercut by massive layoffs in the Public sector. Apparently, we are going to do more with less at the state and local level for some time into the future. Again, pet projects for those making the cuts are saved at the cost of actual workers in Gov't. Hate waiting in line to get your car registered or pay your taxes or getting a drivers license. Blame the state and local gov'ts for cutting staff.


BS. The federal and state governments are the biggest employers IN THE WORLD today. The bigger they get, the more agility they lack.

When they need more money, they get it from the treasury or the tax payer. There's no regulation and feedback mechanism.

The private sector stays lean and agile through the market. It doesn't over promise, unlike the state. Government is inefficient by definition and should never be a jobs program.

Walker was legitimately voted in. The legislature in Wisconsin was changed over in the last election. Don't like it, too bad.

Bust the union, cut the budget and privatize it ASAP.

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Message 1081212 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 13:41:46 UTC - in response to Message 1081155.

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$137 Million? No, the problem is $3.6 BILLION.

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Message 1081250 - Posted: 25 Feb 2011, 16:58:21 UTC - in response to Message 1081210.
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When the private sector was and still is losing jobs by the thousands/millions, I did not see any public sector employees filling up any state or local buildings protesting for their jobs.

Should private sector people employed or unemployed now stand/protest in solidarity? I don't think so.

Not when a government fiscal balancing would be in their benefit.

Besides, a few new friends to talk to in the unemployment lines is always a nice thing.

Seems the highly paid Union Bosses and their higher paid lawyers should of informed their "public" employess, that the contracts they created are not unbreakable.

iWorm 'em.

You've got it backwards. The private sector is gaining jobs and has been for IIRC the last 12 months or more. The public sector(state and local gov'ts) have been dumping employees. Gains made in the Private sector are greatly undercut by massive layoffs in the Public sector. Apparently, we are going to do more with less at the state and local level for some time into the future. Again, pet projects for those making the cuts are saved at the cost of actual workers in Gov't. Hate waiting in line to get your car registered or pay your taxes or getting a drivers license. Blame the state and local gov'ts for cutting staff.


BS. The federal and state governments are the biggest employers IN THE WORLD today. The bigger they get, the more agility they lack.

When they need more money, they get it from the treasury or the tax payer. There's no regulation and feedback mechanism.

The private sector stays lean and agile through the market. It doesn't over promise, unlike the state. Government is inefficient by definition and should never be a jobs program.

Walker was legitimately voted in. The legislature in Wisconsin was changed over in the last election. Don't like it, too bad.

Bust the union, cut the budget and privatize it ASAP.


So even though Wisconsin has one of the lowest per student cost in teaching its simpler to believe the teachers unions and public employee unions are to blame. Clearly you need to reread some attachments. It's not the UNIONS!!!! its the irresponsible spending. reign in the costs and move on. It was easy to make a budget when the cash was flowing in like water. THings are different now. Time to stop the special projects.

Degrading a kids education or making it to get anything done in a public office isnt a plan at all.

I seem to recall that it was the federal gov't that was bad. Now its the state and local. Perhaps your aren't a conservative at all. You appear to be an anarchist. There appears to be no amount of Gov't that you are comfortable with. Wisconsin has had its share of those as well.
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