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Message 1068698 - Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 20:17:27 UTC
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what is the best way to inprove your performance?

without spending money

For example: choice of os, video card drivers or other things?

Please help
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Message 1068700 - Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 20:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 1068698.  
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install the optimized apps using the lunatics unified installer. Thats going to get your work done 50% faster than you are currently getting done. you might also want to increase your cache. YOu have 6 cores and only 3-4 WU's running that is a huge waste of CPU power


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Message 1068701 - Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 20:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 1068698.  

what is the best way to inprove your performance?

without spending money

For example: choice of os, video card drivers or other things?

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Install the Lunatics optimized apps.


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Message 1068722 - Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 20:54:17 UTC

Okay guys, don't forget the reminder! The Lunatic's apps require you to watch for updates. It does not automatically update itself. We are still suffering from set and forget people that had the old V12 app installed and then got a Fermi car which won't work with the V12. Also, you have to watch out for any signs of heat problems as the Lunatic's apps make your GPU work much harder.


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Message 1068727 - Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 21:01:06 UTC - in response to Message 1068722.  

DO not install any GPU apps. You have an ATI card which is very nice but not included in the Lunatics unified installer. When you are more familiar with the app_info and installing you can give that a go. For now stick with the simple stuff


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Message 1068747 - Posted: 20 Jan 2011, 21:23:12 UTC

i know skildude answered this question before in a other thread but i want to hear more answers.
so does a different os make a differents.
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Message 1068804 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 0:05:02 UTC - in response to Message 1068747.  

Allow you pc to crunch 24 hours a day, but wait that costs money to do that.. :)
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Message 1068811 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 0:18:57 UTC - in response to Message 1068804.  
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[quote]Allow you pc to crunch 24 hours a day, but wait that costs money to do that.. :)



i know skildude answered this question before in a other thread but i want to hear more answers.
so does a different os make a differents.


Windoze is (almost?) the most used OS and (thus) has the most Optimized Apps
For CPU, SSE3, SSSE3x, SSE4.1, included in the LUNATICs v0.37 Installer, but also installs an app for a NVIDIA GPU!

If you use the installer, you have to remove some of the lines from the app_info.xml file, to not use your ATI GPU.

Don't know your skills, but there is an ATI GPU app. for AstroPulse (AP) and Multibeam (MB). You have to P.M. Raistmer for information on this.

But it is good to read a firm peace of Number Crunching Forum ;-)
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Message 1068829 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 0:36:15 UTC - in response to Message 1068747.  

wouter wrote:
so does a different os make a differents.

If you have an even moderately capable cruncher, and don't use it for other things, the overhead of your OS choice is unlikely to be much.

Thus, as Fred suggested, the "real" issue for OS choice is actually a matter of which OS has available the most efficient application code for the projects which interest you. This can vary from time to time and from project to project. It is influenced by the quality of the tools available under each OS, by personal choices of those writing or improving applications, and the characteristics of the computation needed.

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Message 1068834 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 1:00:17 UTC
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I haven't ran CPU clients from a long time, but in my previous experience, generally, SETI x64 clients are 10-15% faster than their 32-bit counterparts. Same is true for other programs, like Intel LINPACK libraries, which use similar type algorithms and instructions like SETI, AFAIK.
Also, Windows 7 is faster with multhreaded load, due to vast changes in kernel. I only suspect CPU clients would perform better on it(how better and is it significant, I cannot make assessment). From other side, it has issues(or NVIDIA drivers have) with fully utilizing Fermi GPUs and needs application of further methods to avoid this.
If u spend few days for testing your actual hardware in your actual environment, you may increase significantly overall numbers. But, those results may vary, depending on circumstances around your actual raw crunching power. Few percents from driver, dozen of it from overclock, few percents from proper/appropriate client, yet another few(or many more) from running two tasks per GPU, some more GPU power by using faster CPU and memory( multicore processor benefit a lt from faster memory. Can be achieved by overclock too, alternatively). There are many ways.
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Message 1068868 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 3:47:40 UTC

The quick look is you have an AMD X6 1055T @2.8GHZ and you complete one wu a day and then it is turned off. That running 24/7 with Lunatics should produce an average between 3000 and 4500 credits per day (using all 6 cores).

You also need to look at your Seti Computing Preferences as it appears your default setings allow for the use of only one CPU Core at a time. So if it a case of turning the computer on in the morning. Then let it use all six cores, then turn it off when you go to bed. You can also set the preferences as you sit down to read email to suspend Seti. Then run again after you stop using the computer.

Lunatics is going to be your largest performance boost.

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Message 1068887 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 4:43:33 UTC

Add kitty fur.
A few hairs should do it.
Seems to make all the difference on my rigs.

Short hair kitties seem to offer less wind resistance to cooling fans, although they will still have to be cleaned once in a while.

Long hair kitties will require constant maintenance of fans....although they optimize crunching performance by their very presence.

Scientific studies of this phenomenon are still underway at the kitty labs in Menasha, Wisconsin.

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Message 1068913 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 6:08:56 UTC

Pappa has a point. Lunatics will help your SETI production a great deal, but you are primarily crunching other projects. It is more work, does require some attention, and I think it will only help SETI@home.
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Message 1069065 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 17:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 1068698.  
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what is the best way to inprove your performance?

without spending money

For example: choice of os, video card drivers or other things?

Please help


Some of the best bang for the buck was

1- Use Windows, configure so it won't automatically install updates to avoid rebooting
2- Install NVidia GTX 460 or better card
3- Overclock it with afterburner
4- Use the Lunatics build
5- Ensure you run 2 WU's at once on that GPU (you'll find plenty of other threads with details)
6- Check your BOINC settings (Advanced-Preferences) for 100% usage
7- Check that you have the latest Nvidia drivers/Lunatics ever so often
8- Let the PC run all the time
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Message 1069079 - Posted: 21 Jan 2011, 18:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 1069065.  

what is the best way to inprove your performance?

without spending money

For example: choice of os, video card drivers or other things?

Please help


Some of the best bang for the buck was

1- Use Windows, configure so it won't automatically install updates to avoid rebooting
2- Install NVidia GTX 460 or better card
3- Overclock it with afterburner
4- Use the Lunatics build
5- Ensure you run 2 WU's at once on that GPU (you'll find plenty of other threads with details)
6- Check your BOINC settings (Advanced-Preferences) for 100% usage
7- Check that you have the latest Nvidia drivers/Lunatics ever so often
8- Let the PC run all the time


For the most part your methods are valid and full of merit except for not reading his initial post very well.


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