While mine isn't a budget quad my Q9650 / GTX 480 is up to 17k + by itself! I guess if you compare it to an i7 it would be considered budget no? Then again I also don't run Seti around the clock as I do game a good bit and work on other things on the computer.

Should reach over ~26000 if crunching SaH 24x7.

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Ok, my new 6-core AMD with the GTX 460 is averaging about 5000 units a day -- the y axis of the statistics tab graph. This is RAC?

This is with the standard SETI cuda app and cuda set to only 1 at a time. I also have it set to 3 minutes of inactivity before starting cuda, so this is mostly just overnight stuff.

What would be really nice is instead of "inactivity" or "always", to have a "give other 3d apps priority, otherwise go ahead and use cuda". I don't know if that's possible, especially since Aero onward with MS is always doinkin' with the 3d, but if it could detect major apps like games and hold off, otherwise go for it, that would be awesome.

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all right another 6 core....mines a 1055t, with a gtx 450, we are pretty even with the numbers.....im over 4000 so far, and climbing :)

Ok, my new 6-core AMD with the GTX 460 is averaging about 5000 units a day -- the y axis of the statistics tab graph. This is RAC?

This is with the standard SETI cuda app and cuda set to only 1 at a time. I also have it set to 3 minutes of inactivity before starting cuda, so this is mostly just overnight stuff.

What would be really nice is instead of "inactivity" or "always", to have a "give other 3d apps priority, otherwise go ahead and use cuda". I don't know if that's possible, especially since Aero onward with MS is always doinkin' with the 3d, but if it could detect major apps like games and hold off, otherwise go for it, that would be awesome.

Yes it is possible with a cc_config.xml file and the exclusive app line.
http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?view=491&language=1

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I've left cuda as "always on", and it doesn't seem to be interfering with games too much. Don't know how much, if any, it's slowed down by the competition (maybe they can both fully run with room left over on a 460, don't know how it works). Next step would be to load the optimized app, then see how it goes, then up it to 2x cuda, then 3x and see.

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Ok, I've downloaded the lunatics 0.37 for the regular SETI app. There's also an Astropulse app and a Multibeam app, both for the CPU, not GPU (?) Do these offer much performance increase?

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I quit SETI@Home first, ran the (cuda) installer from Lunatics, then re-started SETI@Home. How do I know if it's using the new stuff or not? The task list looks the same, although there are:

1. Now two cudas running simultaneously, before there was only one. Or maybe the change was coincidental? I did not change that one setting from 1.0 to 0.5.

2. The cudas that are running are now "0.04 CPU + 1.0 NVIDIA cuda" instead of 0.57 CPU + blah. Is this the way the Lunatics runs, or again, was there just a coincidental change in how SETI@Home runs?

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I quit SETI@Home first, ran the (cuda) installer from Lunatics, then re-started SETI@Home. How do I know if it's using the new stuff or not? The task list looks the same, although there are:

1. Now two cudas running simultaneously, before there was only one. Or maybe the change was coincidental? I did not change that one setting from 1.0 to 0.5.

2. The cudas that are running are now "0.04 CPU + 1.0 NVIDIA cuda" instead of 0.57 CPU + blah. Is this the way the Lunatics runs, or again, was there just a coincidental change in how SETI@Home runs?

1. 2 CUDA WU's running simultaneously is what you want, don't bother with 3 is has lower WU output. Fairly odd though that it would be running 2 at a time if all you did was run the Lunatics installer, as far as i'm concerned 2 WU's should only be running simultaneously if you manually edit the app_info

2. 0.04 CPU is fine, that's normalk behavior.

3. To know if you are using the right apps, look under your task manager. for you amd CPU with the Lunatics installer you should see AKV8b_SSE3 etc. for CPU tasks, and for CUDA tasks it should say something like CUDA_x32f etc.

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There's also an Astropulse app and a Multibeam app, both for the CPU, not GPU (?) Do these offer much performance increase?

An emphatic yes on that. You may see as much as twice the speed you are running those MBs and APs at now.

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Damb i chewed up a powersupply.....moving on up to a 600 watter :)

Damb i chewed up a powersupply.....moving on up to a 600 watter :)

Ouch!! Was it still under warranty? Maybe you can get a replacement and keep it as a backup. (or if you are as bad as some on here, build a new machine around the replacement power supply! )

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3. To know if you are using the right apps, look under your task manager. for you amd CPU with the Lunatics installer you should see AKV8b_SSE3 etc. for CPU tasks, and for CUDA tasks it should say something like CUDA_x32f etc.

Yep, that's what I see. Thanks!

Damb i chewed up a powersupply.....moving on up to a 600 watter :)

I got that when I bought the GTX 460 -- it recommends 450 watts, and the ASUS CG1330-07 is only 400. "Only" 400, I have to laugh, when I bought my high-end Alienware 6 years ago with the top-end graphics card, it came with "only" 400 watts, and I moved that power supply to the next computer (just previous to this one) for that computer's even better GPU. But no more is it sufficient!

400 watts will happily start this computer with the GTX, I tried it when the new power supply wasn't working just to make sure the card wasn't the problem -- I had swapped in both at the same time. But I ran no 3D stuff as it was just long enough to see all the pretty lights inside come on and the wheels start hummin'. (Turns out I had plugged the wrong connector into the smaller of two connections on the motherboard. Thankfully the wrong one was lower power than the right one, and thankfully something else didn't burn out anyway trying to compensate. Had an old tube TV partially burn out during a brownout because something inside was trying to compensate too hard, or so I got from my EE friend at work, sorry, I'm pure software :)

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Downloading the Astropulse version from Lunatics, but the Multibeam app seems to have disappeared: http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=32

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You want the v0.37 installer from here

64bit if I looked at the right host.

Includes MB and AP for CPU and MB for Nvidia GPU.

I thought you'd already run that one?

As far as I know only the non-Windows apps and the ATI GPU app require manual install.

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1. ... Fairly odd though that it would be running 2 at a time if all you did was run the Lunatics installer, as far as i'm concerned 2 WU's should only be running simultaneously if you manually edit the app_info

Perhaps the Lunatics app started, and the standard cuda app was still finishing? It only had 2 minutes to go, then disappeared.


Anyway, I changed the <count>1</count> to 0.5 in the app_info.xml file in 6 places since there were six CUDA entries, and started SETI@Home. There was only 1 new cuda running (no old one, that was long gone), so I quit it and restarted again, this time two appeared.


FYI, when I downloaded the Astropulse, it was a .7z file, so I got a decompressor (WinRAR) and unzipped it. I ran the app, not sure what it did, a screen flashed and immediately disappeared. Did it install? No docs with it, nor pointers on the web site as to what to do or expect.

So I went searching some more and found [backwards E] a unified installer, it seems to have covered everything. This seems to be the most recent? http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=247


So in theory I'm running 2 optimized Lunatics cudas and the optimized AstroPulse and MultiBeam now.



FYI, I could not find the unified installer on the Lunatics web site -- I had to google it and google showed me :)

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FYI, I could not find the unified installer on the Lunatics web site -- I had to google it and google showed me :)

yes, that's the current one with Fermi support.
There's only a big announcement on the main page linking to the right download section and a couple of posts on NC, including the sticky thread on optimised apps.

You can try a count of 0.33 as well.

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Carola
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You can download the 7zip from here http://www.7-zip.org/download.html
sometimes the winrar program won't unzip 7zip stuff. If the screen just flashed when you opened it it definitely did not install. It has several sections with questions you have to answer. Nothing hard, just what instruction set your computer can use and whether or not you want AP and Cuda.

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FYI, I could not find the unified installer on the Lunatics web site -- I had to google it and google showed me :)

yes, that's the current one with Fermi support.
There's only a big announcement on the main page linking to the right download section and a couple of posts on NC, including the sticky thread on optimised apps.

You can try a count of 0.33 as well.

Do not set it to .33 if you have a GTX 460 or lower, keep it at .5 for highest WU throughput. .33 only benefits 470's and 480's / 570' and 580's.

I believe .5 is also suitable for a GTS 450, but i am not 100% sure because I do not own one. Anything below a 450 I would assume cannot handle more than 1 WU at a time. That includes GTX 280's and lower.

On a side note, it will be interesting to see if perhaps a GTX 560 will be able to handle 3 WU's at a time.

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My guess, is with 1G video memory or less, 3 processes will exceed the memory requirements. GT 430 performing well with 2. I would not try 3.

If you have a 1.5-2G graphics memory, you might be able to try 3?

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My guess, is with 1G video memory or less, 3 processes will exceed the memory requirements. GT 430 performing well with 2. I would not try 3.

If you have a 1.5-2G graphics memory, you might be able to try 3?

No my card with 3 processes only took up 732 MB of my video ram. So the requirement is at least 1 gig to run 3 processes, but not more. I think it is definitely up to the GPU architecture and the CUDA core count. more cores means more work to be distributed efficiently between them this no loss in throughput. Personal guess though. don't forget about clock speeds either.

Is there anyone who can explain the background processes of allowing more WU instances in a given card/architecture?

How about some info on multiple instances on Radeon cards and how it measures up against CUDA?

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