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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Glad I/we made you laugh. And I think the thoughts clear. Either it's bogus, or it's business as usual like what we get from BOTH sides. Because he and Cheney are cousins, right? :) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Glad I/we made you laugh. And I think the thoughts clear. Either it's bogus, or it's business as usual like what we get from BOTH sides. Kissing cousins! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Oh, and is this Obama shine also? I would be glad if you could put this down to BS. THIS SHOULD MAKE YOUR DAY. Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That’s $3,800 on a $100,000 home etc. When did this happen? It’s in the healthcare bill. Just thought you should know. SALES TAX TO GO INTO EFFECT 2013 (Part of HC Bill) REAL ESTATE SALES TAX So, this is "change you can believe in"? Under the new health care bill - did you know that all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax? The bulk of these new taxes don't kick in until 2013 (presumably after obama’s re-election). You can thank Nancy, Harry and Barack and your local Democrat Congressman for this one. If you sell your $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes. Is this Hope & Change great or what? Does this stuff makes your November and 2012 votes more important? Oh, you weren't aware this was in the obamacare bill? Guess what, you aren't alone. There are more than a few members of Congress that aren't aware of it either (result of clandestine midnight voting for huge bills "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
After a little searching, I found this little nugget which sheds some light on the topic. Bottom line is it's false and another ill-informed smear campaign. The author is right about one thing: this smear campaign should definitely sway your voting for November and 2012 if this is all the Repubs can come up with. [Edit] For ease of the reader: And just to be sure, we checked with William Ahern, director of policy and communications for the nonprofit, pro-business Tax Foundation. "Some home sales would see a tax increase under this bill," Ahern told us, "but it would have to be a second home or a principal residence generating [a gain of] more than $250,000 ($500,000 for a couple)." |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well, thank you....... That's why I post these things here, so you can straighten my little republican ass out. Now, can you tell me why my social security taxes, income taxes and every other f'n tax I pay is going up, but my income has not been increased to compensate? Waiting.......the kitties are waiting...... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Looks like your sorry Democrat ass is lost for a response, eh. You bastards have raised taxes and spending every time you had a vote on it, now, haven't you........ Every single vote, without much exception. Tired of your s##t. And most of America is too......... You are quite outta of here in this election........ Quite out. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
OK.....I will apologize for my tone, but not my intent. I as sick as hell of my means to make a living going nowhere but my means of being taxed goes up and up and up and up........ Every single time the dems have a vote on ANYTHING....there is a tax increase involved. Whether it's my gas, or mail, or the roof over my head, the fraakin' power I use to run the crunchers, the air I breath..... It's time for both taxes and government to start going down........... Most Americans are too.......and that's why the Dems are out of here in this term like sh$t through a goose. Let me know if you have a plan for raising my income otherwise....... Down with Dems and taxes............ "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Problem is I don't consider myself a Democrat either. So leveling your frustration against me is misplaced at best, and somewhat offensive. I tire of the same bullshit most everyone else does, but it only seems to me, from my perspective, that the Republicans play the most games. That isn't to say the Dems don't play games at all. [Edit] If the Repubs want the damned office so bad, stop with the lies and the fear. Stop telling half truths. Stop preying on people's ignorance because they don't know about details like these, or posess the motivation to find the truth about them. You want your pay to raise or to lower taxes? Make that your compaign. I can at least respect that. I can't respect smear or FUD [operating off of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt] campaigns. For the record, I consider myself to be a civil libertarian. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
ahh yes the never ending battle between borrow and spend republican and tax and spend democrats. Um.. here is the secret. They both like to spend money. But have very different ideas "on what". After Clinton, we actually had a budget surplus. After Bush, we have record deficits. And no economy to pay them with. So it is going to be a long hard rebuild. And I am not trusting of those that burnt the house down. That last sentence is opinon, the rest.. well it would be pretty hard to argue those facts. Just ones perception of them. Janice |
Charles Carnes Send message Joined: 27 Aug 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 826,121 RAC: 0 |
Your taxes will be down when you file for 2010. Do you not know that? Republicans hope it remains a secret. If you are in the filthy rich category that may not be true. The title of this thread is offensive. I never liked W but I did not call him names. Name calling is so childish. The worst thing I ever called him was W. W did to America what he did to his Baseball team. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Your taxes will be down when you file for 2010. get 1000X more out than he actually put in? In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
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Loving it. Change. LOL. You can believe in. More LOL. Yes we can. LOL. No you haven't. I love the way The Brits change things. Just like that. SNAP! It's done. We need a King. King George, where are you? iWorm 'em. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Mark, to say it bluntly, you need to watch your mouth. I am sure it is posts like that that made you invisible to me the occasions I looked in on the board while "lurking" for about 1.5 years. When we disagree, I still think most want you around to talk to. You do not know, necessarily, that the other cruncher is a Democrat. And here would've been a better reply (one it seems it takes an independent to post): 1) Why go to factcheck.org? Why not go directly to health care bill? I am sure it is online (I seem to recall finding it once), as a pdf, and searchable. (E.g., words/phrases within the pdf document can be searched for while reading it in Acrobat or whatever.) 2) Ask a question such as: what in the world is the connection between taxes on real estate and health care?!? Even if the other cruncher quoted from factcheck,org correctly, and they have their facts right, it skirts the real question. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Your taxes will be down when you file for 2010. Swindle is not name-calling. Now, if you want to say "Obama the Swindler," that is. |
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