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Message 1005150 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 7:54:20 UTC
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My Laptop is getting a new Cross Project ID every few days, now I think it's the 4th or 5th one. As you can see in my host list I have ATM 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz, the one with 237k credits is the "new" one, the other one just has the rosetta credits, where I didn't update yet. Actually the "new" one you can see there with ID 6ac5e11b65aa348c64538eac24da7993 will be gone on the next update, in my client_state.xml it has already ead5d8122b922b57b9e428f83497793c.

Seems to happen about every three days:
- 6411d74ffc1036e2ca34b47340a29e1c, first seen 2010-06-11
- 6ac5e11b65aa348c64538eac24da7993, first seen 2010-06-14
- ead5d8122b922b57b9e428f83497793c, probably first seen 2010-06-17

The IDs before that I don't have.

Any ideas what's going on here? The machine is running 24/7 without any changes to it, even no reboots. In the log I don't see anything about it. However, I think it started after updating BOINC to 6.10.56, not sure. What can I do to stop it?
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Message 1005164 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 8:58:57 UTC - in response to Message 1005150.  

The changing of the CPID is a project thing, not a client thing, and is usually triggered by a change of the email address.

It is then propagated between projects by contact of the clients.

Did you change anything at one of your accounts recently?

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Message 1005165 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 9:09:04 UTC - in response to Message 1005164.  

Did you change anything at one of your accounts recently?

Only the "Switch between tasks every" value...



The changing of the CPID is a project thing, not a client thing, and is usually triggered by a change of the email address.

But would that not change my CPID and not just the CPID of one of my hosts?
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Message 1005167 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 9:15:32 UTC - in response to Message 1005165.  

Oops, now I've been caught by the account CPID versus hosts CPID confusion myself. Normally I tell others about that mistake. :-)

Actually, I have no clue what triggers a host CPID change.

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Message 1005183 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 10:55:53 UTC - in response to Message 1005167.  
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Another O.S., for a while, period of inactivity, hardware-changes @ host.
Seen it on one of my X64 host's, changed to LINUX, then back to WIN XP64.
DUAL-BOOT .
This host now has 4 Host ID's and is mentioned 4 times?!
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Message 1005188 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 11:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1005183.  
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Can't they be merged?

I do not see identical CPUs in your hosts:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=2896451

 


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Message 1005189 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 11:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 1005188.  
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No, they 'report' overlapping periods. Cause when it was a Dual-Boot Host, with LINUX and Windows, both ran BOINC, but time when WU's were UPLoaded, could have been overlapping.....and probably did!

Tried different times to Merge them, to no availability.

It now looks if I have 3 X9650's, but still have 1. ;-)

Show all hosts .

Also different names.
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Message 1005191 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 11:23:37 UTC - in response to Message 1005189.  


Oh, yes, you have 3
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650
but 2 of them are from 2008 & 2009
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=2896451

 


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Message 1005239 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 13:12:45 UTC - in response to Message 1005183.  
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Another O.S., for a while, period of inactivity, hardware-changes @ host.
Seen it on one of my X64 host's, changed to LINUX, then back to WIN XP64.

No, only WinXP running 24/7 without any changes on the machine.



Can't they be merged?

The S@H host ID is always the same: 3210401. It's the cross project ID (now: ead5d8122b922b57b9e428f83497793c) that changes (look at the BoincStats host list from my first post or click here).
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Message 1007322 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 8:22:52 UTC

So, little update about my Laptop's CPID:

- 6411d74ffc1036e2ca34b47340a29e1c, first seen 2010-06-11, is gone on BOINCstats since I updated Rosetta

- 6ac5e11b65aa348c64538eac24da7993, first seen 2010-06-14, will be soon gone from BOINCstats as I will use the update button for Rosetta now

- ead5d8122b922b57b9e428f83497793c which I had few days in my client_state.xml never made it to own page on BOINCstats, in my SETI account, in the computer list the previous one was used all the time

- 6411d74ffc1036e2ca34b47340a29e1c is back, with "first seen 2010-06-22"

I hope it's OK if I'm a bit confused now...
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Message 1009142 - Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 7:45:33 UTC

WTF is going on here?

6411d74ffc1036e2ca34b47340a29e1c (2010-06-25) and 6ac5e11b65aa348c64538eac24da7993 (2010-06-26) are switching now daily, and in client_state.xml I have ead5d8122b922b57b9e428f83497793c as CP host ID, which is reported to the server in sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml, but never used.

Any ideas?
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Message 1009149 - Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 8:20:59 UTC - in response to Message 1009142.  

WTF is going on here?

6411d74ffc1036e2ca34b47340a29e1c (2010-06-25) and 6ac5e11b65aa348c64538eac24da7993 (2010-06-26) are switching now daily, and in client_state.xml I have ead5d8122b922b57b9e428f83497793c as CP host ID, which is reported to the server in sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml, but never used.

Any ideas?

Check and double check that the details for your account on both (all) projects is identical, and I mean identical.

Also read; How to revert to an older HostID number? it might be some help.
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Message 1012056 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 10:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 1009149.  

Let's see...

As I didn't update Rosetta, 6411d74ffc1036e2ca34b47340a29e1c (2010-06-25) has get the Seti-Credits back when my laptop decided to use this ID again. Well, actually it decided now to use e84bc1d184133dcb22a38f428ae3509c in the client_state.xml, but probably as before this one will not find the way to the internet... in my host list in my user profile is 6ac5e11b65aa348c64538eac24da7993 used again, as you can see.


Check and double check that the details for your account on both (all) projects is identical, and I mean identical.

I checked that even more than twice, and the problem with switching CPID occurs only on one of my three hosts.


Also read; How to revert to an older HostID number? it might be some help.

I think there's something wrong with this URL... and I couldn't find a thread with this title with the forum search.
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Message 1012067 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 11:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 1012056.  

I think there's something wrong with this URL... and I couldn't find a thread with this title with the forum search.

Yep, I think WinterKnight meant this one at BOINC FAQ Service.

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Message 1012084 - Posted: 5 Jul 2010, 11:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 1012067.  

Hmm... but that applies to the project specific hostID, not to the cross project hostID.
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Message 1015158 - Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 22:03:46 UTC

Did I have the Mac "user experience" on a Windows machine?


Changelog 6.10.58:

released: 6 July 2010

* New: Enable the ability to automatically join teams from installer scripts (Win, Mac)
* Fix: Elasped time tracking issue
* Fix: Fix crash condition that would happen if drivers for ATI/Nvidia were installed incorrectly or clashed with other drivers in the system. (Win)
* Fix: Cleanup accessibility items (Mac)
* Fix: Display both OS version and kernel version on startup (Mac)
* Fix: Fix bug that caused a new CPID to be generated at startup (Mac)


I'm not sure it was on startups, but Microsoft's patch day is comming, so let's see...
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Message 1015732 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 1:44:02 UTC

My Cross-project ID for SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta is not the same as the rest of my projects. How do I get this fixed? I have had this one on the SETI@home beta forms for over 29 days with no answer. I know that the only ones that can help are the people at SETI@home project, but it looks like they don't read the forms on that site I hope to have more luck here. I have had this problem with one of my other project and I had them fix it just by emailing someone but I can't find an email address for SETI@home or SETI@home beta. Can someone help me?
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Message 1015777 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 7:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 1015732.  
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You should have created a new thread, since your problem (split account CPID) has nothing to do with the topic of this thread (continually changing host CPID).

Are you using the same email address at SETI beta as at the other projects? The account CPID is derived from the email address; so, check if you are using identical addresses (including upper/lower case).

IIRC, the beta project has been down for an extended period of time. That might add to your problem (and be the reason for the lack of response to your request). During the weekly three-day outage, there's no opportunity for the CPID to align.

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Message 1015782 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 8:01:39 UTC - in response to Message 1015777.  

He did, I moved the thread here. Sorry me bad.
You should have created a new thread, since your problem (split account CPID) has nothing to do with the topic of this thread (continually changing host CPID).

Are you using the same email address at SETI beta as at the other projects? The account CPID is derived from the email address; so, check if you are using identical addresses (including upper/lower case).

IIRC, the beta project has been down for an extended period of time. That might add to your problem (and be the reason for the lack of response to your request). During the weekly three-day outage, there's no opportunity for the CPID to align.

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Message 1027685 - Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 12:10:06 UTC
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ARGH!

So, here is what I tried untill now:

1. Reinstalled BOINC 6.10.56. After about of two weeks of "looks OK" the host-CPID was again changing very few days.

2. Installed BOINC 6.10.58. The CPID didn't change for 17 days according to BOINCstats, now the machine has a new one.


Any ideas? I didn't change anything on this host, but *I think* the problem started when I installed 6.10.56, at least that would fit to the pattern, that the problem recurs apparently about 2 week after BOINC installation.
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