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Bernie Vine Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 5705 Credit: 14,430,386 RAC: 53,006	Message 1315260 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 22:11:57 UTC
	Attempting this myself by using, yes M$ you've guessed it - your competitor - Firefox! Hmm several recent polls give Chrome the lead. ____________
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6751 Credit: 1,283,817 RAC: 656	Message 1315733 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 1315260.
	Attempting this myself by using, yes M$ you've guessed it - your competitor - Firefox! Hmm several recent polls give Chrome the lead. & the relevance of that is? ____________
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Bernie Vine Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 5705 Credit: 14,430,386 RAC: 53,006	Message 1315745 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 21:24:22 UTC - in response to Message 1315733.
	Attempting this myself by using, yes M$ you've guessed it - your competitor - Firefox! Hmm several recent polls give Chrome the lead. & the relevance of that is? None really I just like to point out that Firefox is going the same way! ____________
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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,161,883 RAC: 868	Message 1315869 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 3:43:11 UTC - in response to Message 1315200.
	OMG, shock, horror - Martin, don't you go having a heart attack. Windows 8 & it's paid for add-on, Media Center is reasonable enough as previous versions, I suppose. However, after reading the MS Press "Windows 8 Inside Out", there were several references to other media players. On checking one of them out, found that not only is it open source but an orginal app for Microsoft of all people! Namely XBox Media Center. The latest version is XBMC 12 Frodo RC1 & it's an awesome program! Microsoft, are you watching? This is how to give your customers quality! Haven't tested the pictures or Music library yet, but the Movies & TV libraries are awesome! XBMC Screenshot of XBMC on my system: - Looking forward to adding the rest of my film collection, all 6000 of them. That will also stream the files over your network to devices that can play off of a network media server. I use ps3mediaserver for serving up video to my houses devices, but have heard decent things about xbmc, and I know it can even be used on linux. :-) ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6751 Credit: 1,283,817 RAC: 656	Message 1315966 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 11:45:00 UTC - in response to Message 1315869.
	Yep, & you can also use it with openELEC 2.0 to build a dedicated media server without the need for a full blown O/S (Linux based of course). ATM, they seem to be having issues with their repository with some apps boken(but only for Frodo 12 - Eden 11.0 is stable). ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1316271 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 0:48:43 UTC Last modified: 17 Dec 2012, 0:51:30 UTC
	There's the rather interesting Raspbmc that turns a RasPi into a low power but very capable XBMC media centre. ...And you can even run Boinc on the RasPi! All by the power of Linux! IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1316272 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 0:56:37 UTC
	And by the power of FLOSS, you can now run BOINC on Android devices: NativeBOINC IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,161,883 RAC: 868	Message 1316338 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 6:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 1316272.
	And by the power of FLOSS, you can now run BOINC on Android devices: NativeBOINC IT is what we make it... Martin I have an android freed up finally too! I just need to make sure my arch is supported, as IIRC that particular device has a strange proc.. ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6829 Credit: 17,168,624 RAC: 25,369	Message 1323745 - Posted: 2 Jan 2013, 20:21:17 UTC
	Ubuntu operating system comes to Android smartphones
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6751 Credit: 1,283,817 RAC: 656	Message 1323753 - Posted: 2 Jan 2013, 20:40:09 UTC
	This could rightly be posted in any of the 3 threads regarding software & technolgy, but thought the Linux thread would be more appropriate. For the past several weeks, Real Player, downloader & convertor have all stopped working under Windows. On searching for answers on this, find that many are having the same issue. For some, it was a simple matter of enabling the add-on in their browsers, but for the tech savvy who are aware of that, their's is still not working. On checking with Real, there is a version for Linux, so if there is anyone using this in Linux, does all 3 components of the program work? ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1323953 - Posted: 3 Jan 2013, 0:44:00 UTC - in response to Message 1323745. Last modified: 3 Jan 2013, 0:45:59 UTC
	Ubuntu operating system comes to Android smartphones Thanks for that, quite a splash: ... Ubuntu [Linux] ... devices to be sold with the system pre-installed within the year. While he acknowledged the innovation would likely be limited to "enthusiasts and hobbyists" at first, he said it signalled a wider shift on the horizon. "It's quite incredible that we're at this point when the power of the phone is crossing over that with baseline processing power of basic laptops," Mr Shuttleworth told the BBC. "We're taking advantage of that so for the first time in history you have the full consumer PC platform available on a phone. ... "... It's really cracking to do that ahead of everyone else." Phones running the software will be showcased at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas next week. ... There's also great enthusiasm from: The Register: Ubuntu for smartphones aims to replace today's mobes, laptops PCMAG: Canonical Unveils Ubuntu for Smartphones There is also the Google phone... Interesting times indeed. IT is what we make it! Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,161,883 RAC: 868	Message 1330292 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 3:35:57 UTC
	And now for something completely different. By switching from Windows to its own Linux distribution, LiMux, Munich has saved over ¬11 million (US$14.3 million) so far, the city announced in November. But a Microsoft-commissioned Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) study conducted by HP suggests that the city's numbers are wrong, and claims that Munich would have saved ¬43.7 million if it had stuck with Microsoft, German weekly Focus reported earlier this week. Microsoft won't release study that challenged success of Munich's Linux migration ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1330400 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 16:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 1330292.
	And now for something completely different. By switching from Windows to its own Linux distribution, LiMux, Munich has saved over ¬11 million (US$14.3 million) so far, the city announced in November. But a Microsoft-commissioned Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) study conducted by HP suggests that the city's numbers are wrong, and claims that Munich would have saved ¬43.7 million if it had stuck with Microsoft, German weekly Focus reported earlier this week. Microsoft won't release study that challenged success of Munich's Linux migration Thanks for that one. I like the quote from the source article: ... Since the report was commissioned by Microsoft, HP also declined to comment, said Anette Nachbar, spokeswoman for HP. "I would struggle to see how a Windows deployment would be cheaper than a Linux installment," said Roy Illsley, principal analyst at Ovum, who added that he couldn't imagine why Microsoft wouldn't release a study that actually proved that Microsoft is cheaper than Linux. "I would suspect that they read it and they suspected that there are some errors in there," he said. ... Might they be playing a game of dirty tricks?... IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,111,470 RAC: 6,720	Message 1330496 - Posted: 23 Jan 2013, 21:09:38 UTC - in response to Message 1330400.
	Might they be playing a game of dirty tricks?... The study was commissioned by Microsoft to HP Consulting for internal purposes only What dirty trick? Never was released except by a disgruntled employee. ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1330713 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 14:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 1330496. Last modified: 24 Jan 2013, 14:43:56 UTC
	Might they be playing a game of dirty tricks?... The study was commissioned by Microsoft to HP Consulting for internal purposes only What dirty trick? Never was released except by a disgruntled employee. So the FUD headlines are just a ruse by sensationalist publishers? Or really is that FUD being slung around to try to confuse and discredit a big success story for FLOSS and real standards? YOUR source for the "disgruntled employee" is...? So how did that story get out into the wild?... That all looks all the worst against the excessive costs and restrictions of proprietary and lock-in... IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1330715 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 14:45:56 UTC
	An interesting development and lead in to a whole new series of mobile phones: First Firefox phones revealed by Mozilla and Geeksphone Mozilla has published details of the first smartphones to be powered by its Firefox operating system. Two handsets are to be made by a small Spanish firm called Geeksphone and will be targeted at developers ahead of the system's formal launch. The platform is based on the HTML5 web programming language and is being marketed as offering software writers more "freedom"... IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,111,470 RAC: 6,720	Message 1330742 - Posted: 24 Jan 2013, 16:45:45 UTC - in response to Message 1330713.
	YOUR source for the "disgruntled employee" is...? So how did that story get out into the wild?... Just clicked to "read full story" on the link in Ex's post which leads to http://www.itworld.com/open-source/337658/microsoft-wont-release-study-challenged-success-munichs-linux-migration You have to watch out for sensationalist media FUD. Expect it. It is how they sell advertising. ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1332854 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 17:24:42 UTC - in response to Message 1330742.
	YOUR source for the "disgruntled employee" is...? So how did that story get out into the wild?... ... You have to watch out for sensationalist media FUD. Expect it. It is how they sell advertising. Including deliberate deception? Microsoft partly releases study on Munich's Linux migration ... The likely reason for this is an assumption by HP that Munich's administration would still be using Windows XP and Office 2003 if Munich had decided to go with Microsoft products; Munich's calculations, on the other hand, include an upgrade to Windows 7. As the head of the City of Munich's municipal IT service IT@M, Karl-Heinz Schneider, pointed out last week, the Linux version used with LiMux has continually evolved and is now comparable to Windows 7. It is rather unrealistic to assume that the city would have stayed on Windows XP throughout the lifetime of the migration, instead of updating to a current version of Microsoft's operating system at some point. The [Microsoft/HP] study contains other debatable assumptions... All spiced up with drip-fed teasers to get just the glib misleading FUD headline out into the wild?... All scurrilously dishonest in my opinion! IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,111,470 RAC: 6,720	Message 1332872 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 18:02:33 UTC - in response to Message 1332854.
	Martin, Can't you read? Questioning the City of Munich's figures by quoting a non-public study that could not be verified has sparked considerable criticism. Most likely it is in response to this that Microsoft has now released a summary of the study. That is exactly with the disgruntled one wanted. Release of internal documents to embarrass. What might matter is what they did with the damn thing. Just file it as claptrap? ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1332879 - Posted: 30 Jan 2013, 18:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1332872.
	... What might matter is what they did with the damn thing. Just file it as claptrap? So... Why pay to create a report that is so blatantly (deliberately?) deceitfully biased in the first place if it is not to be used in some way...? Or are you suggesting that the Microsoft/HP people are hopelessly incompetent? Or just that they had no other way to cook the numbers to try to get Microsoft to look good?... All very strange to my eyes... All just my opinion as always... ;-) IT is what we make it... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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