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Message 964296 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 5:14:51 UTC

Are GTX 280's decent cards or do they run hot? I saw one for a good deal and wondered how they stack up against say a GTX 275?
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Message 964304 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 5:35:41 UTC - in response to Message 964296.  

i think this is because gtx 280 has double previous manufacturing process of 65 nm and consumes 236 watts instead of gtx 285's 204 watts and slower by 14%.

btw, if you type "GTX" in russian keyboard layout, you will get russian world what can be translated as "furnace" which is reflect it's power consumption . so many russian gtx user call it "furnace 285" or "furnace 295" for fun.
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Message 964314 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 5:48:23 UTC

I found the 280 for $180 and a 275 for $235, I am wondering which is better for seti.
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Message 964315 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 5:50:23 UTC - in response to Message 964296.  

The 280 was the first of the current generation of nVidia GPUs. The 275 came out about 10 months later. According to Wikipedia, at non-OC cloak rates the 280 is about 10% slower than a 275, and draws about 10% more power.

275, 280, and 285 are fairly close together in terms of speed and power. All of them are excellent GPUs, and are currently only surpassed by the 295, which is essentially two 285's on a single card.

With the fan on auto, my factory overclocked 280 crunches at around 77 to 82 degrees, depending on the project (SETI is at the low end of that range). My PC is not in a good spot for dissipating heat so it runs a bit hotter than it really aught to.

The 280's maximum safe temperature is 105, so there's a lot of thermal leeway. The highest temps, running Milkyway, have the GPU running above 90%, so even with the GPU being pushed hard, it's getting nowhere near hot enough to be a problem.
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Message 964318 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 6:00:30 UTC

So for the price difference the 280 is a better deal. Also I believe the GTX 295 is 2 GTX 275's not 285's.
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Message 964320 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 6:12:28 UTC

Hmmm the GTX 275 is:
Technical Information:

Performance
NVIDIA GTX 275
713 MHz GPU
240 Processing Cores
400 MHz RAMDAC
Memory

896 MB, 448 bit DDR3
2520 MHz (effective)
141.12 GB/s Memory Bandwidth
Interface

PCI-E 2.0 x16
DVI-I, DVI-I, HDTV-7
SLI Capable
Resolution & Refresh

240Hz Max Refresh Rate
2048x1536 Max Analog
2560x1600 Max Digital

And the GTX 280 is:
General
RAMDAC: 400 MHz
Max Resolution: 2560 x 1600
SLI Supported: Yes
Cooler: With Fan
Power Connector: 6 pin / 8 pin
Dual-Link DVI Supported: Yes
HDCP Ready: Yes
Interface

Interface: PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset

Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA
GPU: GeForce GTX 280
Core clock: 602MHz
Stream Processors: 240 processing cores
Memory

Memory Clock: 2214MHz
Memory Size: 1GB
Memory Interface: 512-bit
Memory Type: GDDR3
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Message 964321 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 6:18:17 UTC - in response to Message 964318.  

So for the price difference the 280 is a better deal.


it depends on your current price for electric power. 285 are 30% more effective in performance/power ratio when 280.
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Message 964324 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 6:36:17 UTC - in response to Message 964321.  

So for the price difference the 280 is a better deal.


it depends on your current price for electric power. 285 are 30% more effective in performance/power ratio when 280.

Thats one place I am lucky, we have the cheapest power in the State. But my choices are the 275 or 280 and will probably have to get one or the other tonight.
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Message 964326 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 6:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 964318.  
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So for the price difference the 280 is a better deal. Also I believe the GTX 295 is 2 GTX 275's not 285's.

Sorry but You and Michael Goetz are both wrong, a GTX 295 is really a pair of GTX 260 gpus(Remember I own a BFG GTX 295, the two board version), the real 295 is not be confused with the Asus Mars card with two 285 gpus which Nvidia didn't authorize and that's why their so rare and the Asus Mars card is not a GTX 295 at all.



Me If I had three of these, I'd call them the Mars Division, Real Gods of War. :D
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Message 964327 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 7:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 964324.  
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we have the cheapest power in the State


what is it exactly? just calculate when 275 worth it $55 back by less power consumption.
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Message 964328 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 7:07:06 UTC - in response to Message 964327.  

we have the cheapest power in the State


what is it exactly? just calculate when 275 worth it $55 back by less power consumption.

I pay RESIDENTIAL
5.4 cents per KWH plus a $5.50 monthly service charge
But I am more concerned which will do more units, starting to think the 275 because of the faster speeds and little difference in memory.
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Message 964329 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 7:10:35 UTC - in response to Message 964328.  

275 is just faster.
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Message 964330 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 7:11:33 UTC - in response to Message 964326.  
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I've seen this so many times. Overrated like hell... And I heard it was actually to GTX295's, they only produced 1000 of them as well.

I'm not sure as to which bright spark decided to release this on the eve of Fermi's release, which will be much more powerful and consume less power.
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Message 964331 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 7:14:32 UTC - in response to Message 964330.  



I've seen this so many times. Overrated like hell... And I heard it was actually to GTX295's, they only produced 1000 of them as well.

I'm not sure as to which bright spark decided to release this on the eve of Fermi's release, which will be much more powerful and consume less power.

Maybe not, But they do look impressive, Besides who knows when Fermi will be released from the Lab.
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I've seen this so many times. Overrated like hell... And I heard it was actually to GTX295's, they only produced 1000 of them as well.

I'm not sure as to which bright spark decided to release this on the eve of Fermi's release, which will be much more powerful and consume less power.

Maybe not, But they do look impressive, Besides who knows when Fermi will be released from the Lab.


Any idea of the cost of these Mars GPU's?
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Message 964350 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 10:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 964296.  

Are GTX 280's decent cards or do they run hot? I saw one for a good deal and wondered how they stack up against say a GTX 275?

Hi there!
I've got a GTX 280 (overclocked by MSI) and the temperatur is fine running the fan at 70-80% at crunching and it's around 60°C.
I have to say, I'm using driver: 18618 and newer drivers lower the temperatur slightly.

If you decide to buy a GTX 280 I suggest to put "GTX280 PSU" into your prefered search engine. Some problems have been noticed with BeQuiet PSUs. I'm having problems with GPUGrid for example.

If you find a good deal, it's realy a good card.
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Message 964361 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 12:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 964331.  

Any idea of the cost of these Mars GPU's?


German article, but some nice pics (price is over 1000 £)

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,687372/Asus-Mars-GTX-295-fuer-1032-Euro-gelistet-Update-Bilder-der-schnellsten-Grafikkarte-der-Welt/Grafikkarte/News/
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Message 964369 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 14:50:22 UTC

Well I ended up going for the GTX 275 should know in a couple hours if I get it.
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Message 964391 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 16:46:37 UTC - in response to Message 964349.  



I've seen this so many times. Overrated like hell... And I heard it was actually to GTX295's, they only produced 1000 of them as well.

I'm not sure as to which bright spark decided to release this on the eve of Fermi's release, which will be much more powerful and consume less power.

Maybe not, But they do look impressive, Besides who knows when Fermi will be released from the Lab.


Any idea of the cost of these Mars GPU's?

Since they were only quoted as making 1000 of them, No idea, But then I have no idea if any were made beyond the one pictured as Nvidia didn't authorize the idea and may have threatened to cut off Asus supply of chips If Asus made anymore of them and I'd heard about them back in May of 2009 and then I heard nothing more on the cards.
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Message 964392 - Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 16:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 964330.  



I've seen this so many times. Overrated like hell... And I heard it was actually to GTX295's, they only produced 1000 of them as well.

I'm not sure as to which bright spark decided to release this on the eve of Fermi's release, which will be much more powerful and consume less power.

Oh and Luke, Until Fermi is released and more importantly for sale, the Fermi is just so much vaporware.
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