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Message 959096 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 0:47:22 UTC

Just uploaded 4 tasks sucessfully, about 5 minutes later BOINC asked for new work.

I checked my Tasks page and all 4 tasks have the outcome "Validate Error".

It seems that there is currently a problem at the server side.

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Message 959097 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 0:52:22 UTC - in response to Message 959096.
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HI AND i NOTICED ' STRANGE' UPload error's (Forgot Capslock);

29-12-2009 1:40:22 SETI@home Started upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.106_0_0
29-12-2009 1:40:22 SETI@home Started upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.177_0_0
29-12-2009 1:40:27 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:40:27 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.106_0_0: transient upload error
29-12-2009 1:40:27 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.106_0_0
29-12-2009 1:40:29 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:45:38 SETI@home Started upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.109_1_0
29-12-2009 1:45:38 SETI@home Started upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.197_1_0
29-12-2009 1:45:43 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:45:43 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.109_1_0: transient upload error
29-12-2009 1:45:43 SETI@home Backing off 8 min 12 sec on upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.109_1_0
29-12-2009 1:45:44 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:45:44 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.197_1_0: transient upload error
29-12-2009 1:45:44 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 20 sec on upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.197_1_0


Haven't seen these kind of UPload errors, before!

The other hosts have troubles UPLoading, too.
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Message 959098 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 0:52:31 UTC - in response to Message 959096.

Just uploaded 4 tasks sucessfully, about 5 minutes later BOINC asked for new work.

I checked my Tasks page and all 4 tasks have the outcome "Validate Error".

It seems that there is currently a problem at the server side.

Keith


Yup, I noticed the same with 3 (out of 4) of my uploaded Wu's. I mentioned this in the thread "Panic Mode On (27) Server problems"

I have suspended all network activity in Boinc for the time being, to avoid wasting any more WU's waiting to upload.

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Message 959099 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 0:54:10 UTC - in response to Message 959097.

HI AND i NOTICED ' STRANGE' UPload error's (Forgot Capslock);

29-12-2009 1:40:22 SETI@home Started upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.106_0_0
29-12-2009 1:40:22 SETI@home Started upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.177_0_0
29-12-2009 1:40:27 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:40:27 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.106_0_0: transient upload error
29-12-2009 1:40:27 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.106_0_0
29-12-2009 1:40:29 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:45:38 SETI@home Started upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.109_1_0
29-12-2009 1:45:38 SETI@home Started upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.197_1_0
29-12-2009 1:45:43 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:45:43 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.109_1_0: transient upload error
29-12-2009 1:45:43 SETI@home Backing off 8 min 12 sec on upload of 13fe07ab.31755.17659.13.10.109_1_0
29-12-2009 1:45:44 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
29-12-2009 1:45:44 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.197_1_0: transient upload error
29-12-2009 1:45:44 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 20 sec on upload of 11ja07aa.14618.15205.11.10.197_1_0


Haven't seen these kind of UPload errors, before!



I have seen those errors before, after a normal weekly outage. It doesn't happen after all normal weekly outages, but it does happen after some.

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Message 959103 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:06:26 UTC

Thanks for the replies, I saw other reports in the "Panic" thread, but I started this one so that some people may want to Suspend Network activity until this problem is resolved, otherwise their work may be wasted, as Validate Errors are a server side problem, nothing wrong with the work done by the client.

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Message 959105 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 959096.
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Not all ULed/reported results of after the outage go in 'validate errors' status.
Also if a 'wingman' report his ULed results now, this will give my old (before the outage) ULed/reported results a 'validate error' status.

Validate error's of my PCs:

[GPU cruncher]

[QX6700]

Current no 'validate error' at my QX6700, but the time will tell..

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Message 959114 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:29:19 UTC
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Out of about 60 tasks I got one validate error, still a lot of pending though.

Make that about 40.
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Message 959118 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:37:13 UTC

I now have 5 Validate errors in my tasks also. Not sure how many uploads or tasks have been reported this evening.

Isn't this one of the errors that is corrected by running a script file? Seems like Validate errors have been a widespread problem before...

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Message 959121 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:41:08 UTC

Got 94 validate errors out of aproximately 250 reported
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Message 959122 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:42:54 UTC

Thankfully, I don't have any validate errors yet - look here , but i can't get any new WU to download at all... I haven't had any SETI tasks for about 35 hours now and am getting a message

12/28/2009 8:15:01 PM SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)

12/28/2009 8:36:02 PM SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)

12/28/2009 8:39:43 PM SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)

This is just the last 3... I have about 30 identical messages built up

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Message 959125 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:48:28 UTC

Patience!

Seti went from Cold Iron to trying to catch up... This was on someone(s) time when they were forced to take time off..

So many things have to catch up. Right now they are in a state of flux...

Few things should get lost...

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Message 959127 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 1:58:20 UTC
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I hope the 'validate error do again well script' will be used (again, like in past).. for to protect the science/results (and Credits) for 'deletion'.

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Message 959136 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 2:08:46 UTC

I have 14 from 15 Results in Validate Error. I was very frusted
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Message 959141 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 2:23:50 UTC


I posted in the TNews about.. Matt is informed about the prob..

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Message 959142 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 2:30:50 UTC

Thanks a lot

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Message 959144 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 2:32:36 UTC
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ALL my crunching during the outage have now been uploaded and ALL have been marked as VALIDATE ERROR even though the credits claimed seem to be right.
No credit has been granted at all after every task has been uploaded.

It seems that all work done is lost, unless these tasks are to be corrected.
My statistics show ZERO increase in Total Credits, which is in keeping with the assumption that ALL tasks have been discarded for the duration of the outage.

Just this second another task has completed:-
Tue 29 Dec 01:58:11 2009 SETI@home [error] Error reported by file upload server: can't open file
Tue 29 Dec 01:58:11 2009 SETI@home Temporarily failed upload of 09mr07ac.1342.5798.15.10.2_0_0: transient upload error
Tue 29 Dec 01:58:11 2009 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 09mr07ac.1342.5798.15.10.2_0_0
Tue 29 Dec 01:59:12 2009 SETI@home Started upload of 09mr07ac.1342.5798.15.10.2_0_0
Tue 29 Dec 01:59:19 2009 SETI@home Finished upload of 09mr07ac.1342.5798.15.10.2_0_0

Work Unit presently shows:-
1459626085 2881519 24 Dec 2009 3:15:53 UTC 28 Jan 2010 8:07:25 UTC In progress --- --- --- --- Anonymous platform
1459626086 5075156 24 Dec 2009 3:15:57 UTC 25 Dec 2009 16:28:36 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 53,475.39 51,629.38 47.45 pending SETI@home Enhanced v6.03

No doubt it will be like the rest after it hits the validating process like this work unit:-
1459626089 2881519 24 Dec 2009 3:15:53 UTC 29 Dec 2009 0:28:10 UTC Validate error 13,788.39 13,161.43 47.44 --- Anonymous platform
1459626090 4153097 24 Dec 2009 3:15:56 UTC 24 Dec 2009 20:52:49 UTC Validate error 54,427.63 29,454.61 47.45 --- SETI@home Enhanced v6.03
1463315663 --- --- --- Unsent --- --- --- ---
1463315664 --- --- --- Unsent --- --- --- ---

Will these tasks be recovered?
About 30 to 40 tasks of mine have been treated as VALIDATE ERRORs like this over the outage time.

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Message 959154 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 3:12:21 UTC - in response to Message 959097.

I got the same transient upload error messages, but I also noticed that the files did upload correctly later.
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Message 959155 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 3:24:59 UTC

Everybody needs to calm down and be patient.

@Skywalker66 - you were never promised work and you were also never promised that the work would validate either. It's not about the credits, it's about the science.

As to the transient uploads - the veterans here will know them. They have happened before and will fix themselves as the servers aren't put under so much strain.

As for the validate errors, I have 2 of them. Matt will probably be able to fix them...
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Message 959160 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 3:41:55 UTC - in response to Message 959155.
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I guess, the ratio RAC/validate errors is for everybody the same.
But the result is different.


To now I have 56 'validate error's..

Hmm.. maybe I could/should be more sad than others?

Sure, other think this are peanuts for me..

I lost to now maybe ~ 300,000 or 400,000 Cr. because of unplanned server outages at Berkeley. Because of unreachable servers.. and so on..

But, this RAC is not from nothing..
I payed the equipment and every month I must pay the electricity bill.

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Message 959171 - Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 4:38:35 UTC - in response to Message 959160.

That's right. Also I don't want to be asked for spending money. I can't buy slice of bread for the credits which I (don't) get and nobody spends me money to buy food or to pay my bills.

Have good times. Bye!

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