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Message 37126 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 9:22:57 UTC

Very nice to see that everything has caught up :)

The Waiting for validation queue now = one

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Message 37128 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 9:25:58 UTC
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sometimes need 2 or 3 weeks before you have garanted credits DON T PANIC
by the way you have a lot of this i see ;-)))
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Message 37137 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 10:05:16 UTC

Wow - finally down to zero :-)





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Message 37143 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:10:05 UTC

It might say it is zero but I have a lot still pending that are valid - validator shows as up - why still pending I wonder?
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Message 37146 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:17:49 UTC

Maybe some results are still in a backup?



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Message 37147 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:21:38 UTC

Same to me,

still have several results pending. Well lets wait and see a few days.
Lots of problems the last days have gone. Everything will hopefully be reported soon.

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Message 37152 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:42:05 UTC - in response to Message 37147.  

> Same to me,
>
> still have several results pending. Well lets wait and see a few days.
> Lots of problems the last days have gone. Everything will hopefully be
> reported soon.
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> Greetings from Darmstadt - home of ESOC
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I have loads still pending. 60 or so
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Message 37153 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:44:05 UTC - in response to Message 37143.  

> It might say it is zero but I have a lot still pending that are valid -
> validator shows as up - why still pending I wonder?
>

There is a large amount of wu's that are still pending for many including me due to not having 3 results returned. I have quit a few from days and weeks back that are still showing Unsent to get that 3rd result. Many of these that need to be resent are most likely from the problems that we have had with failed downloads, failed uploads and version changes where people have had to reset the project, etc.

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Message 37155 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:46:24 UTC - in response to Message 37153.  

> > It might say it is zero but I have a lot still pending that are valid -
> > validator shows as up - why still pending I wonder?
> >
>
> There is a large amount of wu's that are still pending for many including me
> due to not having 3 results returned. I have quit a few from days and weeks
> back that are still showing Unsent to get that 3rd result. Many of
> these that need to be resent are most likely from the problems that we have
> had with failed downloads, failed uploads and version changes where people
> have had to reset the project, etc.
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So will they get resent and people do them and eventually we will get credit?I have so many with 0 or pending.
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Message 37156 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 11:51:10 UTC - in response to Message 37155.  


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> So will they get resent and people do them and eventually we will get credit?I
> have so many with 0 or pending.
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Just checked properly and I have 91 wu's still pending and 29 with 0.Will I eventually get credit for this lot?
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Message 37161 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 12:14:54 UTC - in response to Message 37155.  

Results with 0 has already been tried validated, so will never get anything else for these.
The "pending" on the other hand is normally waiting for other results being returned or new results needs to be sent out, so then atleast 3 "success" results is returned these will be tried validated.
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Message 37162 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 12:19:40 UTC

What is "Validate state = Check skipped"
Will the validator check it again?
Why it is skipped?
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Message 37175 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 13:39:36 UTC - in response to Message 37153.  

> > It might say it is zero but I have a lot still pending that are valid -
> > validator shows as up - why still pending I wonder?
> >
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> There is a large amount of wu's that are still pending for many including me
> due to not having 3 results returned. I have quit a few from days and weeks
> back that are still showing Unsent to get that 3rd result. Many of
> these that need to be resent are most likely from the problems that we have
> had with failed downloads, failed uploads and version changes where people
> have had to reset the project, etc.
>
>
Actually, although a WU is sent out to 3 accounts, only two need to be returned to be validated, not all three. The credit is the lower of the two. It was originally 3 returns over in Beta but that was changed a while ago. Normally the credit allocated will be the lower of the two returned. If the validator has been off and there are three results in, I believe that the middle one is taken.

The Pending status normally means that it is just waiting for the validator to confirm the results.
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Message 37178 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 13:51:33 UTC

I have 108 still "pending" ... some as far back as 18-Jul.

The 18-Jul was issued 6 times and has 3 "over ... success ... done ... pending"

entries claimimg 26.39, 27.11, and 39.00 credits.

shouldn't these be "validated" or are there other indications that there is a problem?

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Message 37180 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 13:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 37175.  

> Actually, although a WU is sent out to 3 accounts, only two need to be
> returned to be validated, not all three. The credit is the lower of the two.
> It was originally 3 returns over in Beta but that was changed a while ago.
> Normally the credit allocated will be the lower of the two returned. If the
> validator has been off and there are three results in, I believe that the
> middle one is taken.
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> The Pending status normally means that it is just waiting for the validator to
> confirm the results.

Does this mean if two results are compared and validated that both of the crunchers get the lower credit of both granted??

If soo please never let me be compared with high speed machines :-)))
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Message 37185 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 14:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 37180.  
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> > Actually, although a WU is sent out to 3 accounts, only two need to be
> > returned to be validated, not all three. The credit is the lower of the
> two.
> > It was originally 3 returns over in Beta but that was changed a while
> ago.
> > Normally the credit allocated will be the lower of the two returned. If
> the
> > validator has been off and there are three results in, I believe that
> the
> > middle one is taken.
> >
> > The Pending status normally means that it is just waiting for the
> validator to
> > confirm the results.
>
> Does this mean if two results are compared and validated that both of the
> crunchers get the lower credit of both granted??
>
> If soo please never let me be compared with high speed machines :-)))
>

Yes, its annoying to claim forty something and get 0.05 - its happened to me a few times. I've just been going over some of my results and I have some where the granted credit is nothing like any of those returned - I think the results database is buggered.
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Message 37193 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 14:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 37162.  

> What is "Validate state = Check skipped"

That it says, for some reason the checking is never done.

> Will the validator check it again?

No, these results will never be checked again, and therefore no credit given.

> Why it is skipped?
>

Most likely due to too many error-results, but can also be because of too many "success"-results but too different to pass validation...


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Message 37267 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 18:08:49 UTC - in response to Message 37185.  
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> > If soo please never let me be compared with high speed machines :-)))
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> Yes, its annoying to claim forty something and get 0.05 - its happened to me a
> few times. I've just been going over some of my results and I have some where
> the granted credit is nothing like any of those returned - I think the results
> database is buggered.

I have the same "problem" with some of mine results, my AMD K6 III @450 Mhz(=X86 en not a Pentium) against a high speed Pentium IV


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Message 37275 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 18:19:35 UTC

Just an Idea,

if Boinc seti would sort the users by time of crunching, e.g. fast to slow,
it would be more fair to give nearly the same credit to a cruncher group than comparison of slow and fast systems.
So its just a matter of calculating and bringing the same people together and than give the, as near as possible, same credit for the same work.

Suggestions???

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Message 37284 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 18:43:50 UTC

CREDITS by PAUL

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So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

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